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Offline Penelope

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Re: Trade/FA rumours
« Reply #60 on: August 21, 2015, 09:12:28 PM »
i wouldnt pick one based on the idea it would make a current player happy or on one game , the later criteria hamspon filled, i do believe?
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Re: Trade/FA rumours
« Reply #61 on: August 21, 2015, 09:20:00 PM »
The captain.  Not drummond or menadue

Kreuzer has had more than one good game vs. Richmond from memory.  Yarren definitely has.

He is a footballer first and plays like an extra mid. Anti-Hampson.
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Re: Trade/FA rumours
« Reply #62 on: August 21, 2015, 09:24:30 PM »
who gives a stuff if it is the captain or the water boy, it is no consideration for recruiting someone.

noones denying that kruezer has had more that one good game, you just stated one good game against richmond as proof he can play.
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Re: Trade/FA rumours
« Reply #63 on: August 21, 2015, 09:37:17 PM »
Quote from: Penelope on August 21, 2015, 09:24:30 PM
who gives a stuff if it is the captain or the water boy, it is no consideration for recruiting someone.

noones denying that kruezer has had more that one good game, you just stated one good game against richmond as proof he can play.

it is.

I watched the quarter he went nuts from about 30 yardd away

very impressive unit bar the acne

will his body hold up? Thats a different question.  Him being best mates with our lord and king trent cotchin is a nice bonus. Not the primary reasoning

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Re: Trade/FA rumours
« Reply #64 on: August 21, 2015, 09:39:15 PM »
just to clarify, you base whether someone can play on one solitary game?
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Re: Trade/FA rumours
« Reply #65 on: August 21, 2015, 09:41:45 PM »
Quote from: Penelope on August 21, 2015, 09:39:15 PM
just to clarify, you base whether someone can play on one solitary game?

#1 draft pick

drafted before cotchin


I have a long list of reasons, as to why i think Kreuzer is an above satisfactory standard.  And possibly a solid addition, which would be a significant upgrade to our primary list. Specific to one area which is not our strongest department
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Re: Trade/FA rumours
« Reply #66 on: August 21, 2015, 09:42:43 PM »
Kreuz can play, but you wouldn't get him for nothing and you would only get 6-12 games a year out of him on avg for the rest of his career, its not enough.  For a 5th round pick cheap ruckman maybe, but you'd have to give up a 2nd or 1st rounder.  Its seems bad maths to me.

Kreuzers games history
2015    Carlton    10   
2014    Carlton    1   
2013    Carlton    17   
2012    Carlton    20   
2011    Carlton    12   
2010    Carlton    13   
2009    Carlton    23   
2008    Carlton    20

Lueuenberger is no better than kreuzer in regards injuries and games per year. 
Year    Team    Games   
2015    Brisbane    14   
2014    Brisbane    5   
2013    Brisbane    20   
2012    Brisbane    3   
2011    Brisbane    22   
2010    Brisbane    22   
2009    Brisbane    3   
2008    Brisbane    10   
2007    Brisbane    9

I agree we need a second ruck to replace Hampson, but its moneyball time, time for Blair to earn his dough and find a Mumford like he did with Maric.
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Re: Trade/FA rumours
« Reply #67 on: August 21, 2015, 09:46:09 PM »
Quote from: tdy on August 21, 2015, 09:42:43 PM
Kreuz can play, but you wouldn't get him for nothing and you would only get 6-12 games a year out of him on avg for the rest of his career, its not enough.  For a 5th round pick cheap ruckman maybe, but you'd have to give up a 2nd or 1st rounder.  Its seems bad maths to me.

Kreuzers games history
2015    Carlton    10   
2014    Carlton    1   
2013    Carlton    17   
2012    Carlton    20   
2011    Carlton    12   
2010    Carlton    13   
2009    Carlton    23   
2008    Carlton    20

Lueuenberger is no better than kreuzer in regards injuries and games per year. 
Year    Team    Games   
2015    Brisbane    14   
2014    Brisbane    5   
2013    Brisbane    20   
2012    Brisbane    3   
2011    Brisbane    22   
2010    Brisbane    22   
2009    Brisbane    3   
2008    Brisbane    10   
2007    Brisbane    9

I agree we need a second ruck to replace Hampson, but its moneyball time, time for Blair to earn his dough and find a Mumford like he did with Maric.

odds are.

At least one of the two will have a good run with injury in future

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Re: Trade/FA rumours
« Reply #68 on: August 21, 2015, 09:50:28 PM »
Quote from: Stalin on August 21, 2015, 09:41:45 PM
Quote from: Penelope on August 21, 2015, 09:39:15 PM
just to clarify, you base whether someone can play on one solitary game?

#1 draft pick

drafted before cotchin


I have a long list of reasons, as to why i think Kreuzer is an above satisfactory standard.  And possibly a solid addition, which would be a significant upgrade to our primary list. Specific to one area which is not our strongest department
yet you elect to trot out some stupidity about making cotchin happy and then proceed to argue that he can play based on one solitary game.

Why?
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Re: Trade/FA rumours
« Reply #69 on: August 21, 2015, 10:10:36 PM »
Kreuzer has played maybe 2 solid games VS RFC, and one great game.

The rest have all been average/poo.
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Re: Trade/FA rumours
« Reply #70 on: August 22, 2015, 12:50:43 PM »
We can forget about Henderson or Carlisle. We're after mids & mid/forwards according to Benny Gale.
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Re: Trade/FA rumours
« Reply #71 on: August 22, 2015, 12:55:44 PM »
TRELOAR!!!!!!!! That is exactly what he is!!
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Re: Trade/FA rumours
« Reply #72 on: August 22, 2015, 04:39:56 PM »
Quote from: one-eyed on August 22, 2015, 12:50:43 PM
We can forget about Henderson or Carlisle. We're after mids & mid/forwards according to Benny Gale.

I wouldn't  believe  everything  one hears
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Re: Trade/FA rumours
« Reply #73 on: August 23, 2015, 03:55:00 PM »
Don't care what benny says, reckon we need another KPD. God forbid Rance goes down and Chaplin has only so long left in the tank plus we could do with an upgrade on him even now
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Re: Trade/FA rumours
« Reply #74 on: August 23, 2015, 04:04:18 PM »
I respect Benny a big amount... but he is not Budda

 - key forwards good
 - key backs... suspect
 - rucks ... suspect


Quote from: Yeahright on August 23, 2015, 03:55:00 PM
Don't care what benny says, reckon we need another KPD. God forbid Rance goes down and Chaplin has only so long left in the tank plus we could do with an upgrade on him even now

If Maric goes down we are left with Soldo or Hampson ...


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