pick#12

[Jobba]

Are people seriously calling Matheison a spud because of one youtube video that doesn't necessarily show him in the best light? Kids a gun and probably won't last till out pick. I know watching youtube makes people think they suddenly know everything about a prospect but even so.

the problem is the vid is a "highlights" reel & it makes him look like a spud, have heard he's far better so if anyone has a better vid of him we'd all love to see it as it will no doubt change our opinion. just that if that's his best then it's a no from me

Its not a highlights video. Its everytime he got the pill in 2 games. Not taking into account TAC cup play or his previous year where he was a U18 AA as a bottom ager. People are gushing all over Clayton oliver but his video has no carnival footage (cause he didnt play) and only has footage from a lesser competition.

[Jobba]

From 2 whole games of the champs. Oh boy must be his highlights package - which by the way the SA game and Vic Metro game looked pretty damn decent. Its not like he played last year AND made the AA under 18 or played a season with the Geelong falcons.

Nah lets base all our opinions of the first few minutes of a 4 minute youtube video

While I agree with the sentiment of not judging a player by a video (which this video wasn't necessarily a highlights video, was just a video of the times he touched the ball which probably gives a better indication of how a person plays) I don't see how you could come to the conclusion that his games against SA and Vic Metro looked pretty damn decent? They looked poor

Well i watched those games so Im a little more in the know i guess. Context is a wonderful thing. But its all perspective. I saw a guy who hunted the ball and got first use of it. When he was tackled he got it out of congestion and got his arms free. Yeah a shanked kick and a few airy handball a few of which were just referred pressure and a few because as I said he hunted to win his own footy but I would hope most would see that as understandable. He certainly not a 'spud' as a lot of people have said here.

[Penelope]

So we know who to blame foir drafting the same types with our first pick every year.....except Lennon....who Hardwick never plays anyway...

And nearly got rid of at 19 years old ...

lol, drama queen.

[Stalin]

rose colored glasses enthusiast

[Chuck17]

Ahhhhh the good old Nelly

[Penelope]

ohhh, the cow kicked nelly in the belly in the barn.............

[🏅Dooks]

We never trade for meaningful higher picks.....gives me the shytes....especially when we have an habitual overreacher like Hackson in charge....have a feeling he's going to leave us with another Conca pick as a parting gift....

Yep

[Raoul Duke]

Jade Gresham looks like a ready made mid that can play forward. I like his vid quite a bit, especially that goal near the end. Would not be unhappy with him as he plays well on a consistent basis too and has the body that looks like will get strong through the core. Almost Stevie J like with some of the things he can do.

Just watched his clip and didn't think his name had been mentioned but its good to know that at least one of you mugs has a keen eye for talent.
This is the one to take people,get around him.

[Jonesracing82]

Are people seriously calling Matheison a spud because of one youtube video that doesn't necessarily show him in the best light? Kids a gun and probably won't last till out pick. I know watching youtube makes people think they suddenly know everything about a prospect but even so.

the problem is the vid is a "highlights" reel & it makes him look like a spud, have heard he's far better so if anyone has a better vid of him we'd all love to see it as it will no doubt change our opinion. just that if that's his best then it's a no from me

this may be true but he was at least hitting targets.... the point of these video's is to sell the Players to the Clubs "here is what he can do" etc....
put it this way, based on that video, his "attributes" shown in the video will not win us a Final...
Its not a highlights video. Its everytime he got the pill in 2 games. Not taking into account TAC cup play or his previous year where he was a U18 AA as a bottom ager. People are gushing all over Clayton oliver but his video has no carnival footage (cause he didnt play) and only has footage from a lesser competition.

[Jonesracing82]

From 2 whole games of the champs. Oh boy must be his highlights package - which by the way the SA game and Vic Metro game looked pretty damn decent. Its not like he played last year AND made the AA under 18 or played a season with the Geelong falcons.

Nah lets base all our opinions of the first few minutes of a 4 minute youtube video

While I agree with the sentiment of not judging a player by a video (which this video wasn't necessarily a highlights video, was just a video of the times he touched the ball which probably gives a better indication of how a person plays) I don't see how you could come to the conclusion that his games against SA and Vic Metro looked pretty damn decent? They looked poor

Well i watched those games so Im a little more in the know i guess. Context is a wonderful thing. But its all perspective. I saw a guy who hunted the ball and got first use of it. When he was tackled he got it out of congestion and got his arms free. Yeah a shanked kick and a few airy handball a few of which were just referred pressure and a few because as I said he hunted to win his own footy but I would hope most would see that as understandable. He certainly not a 'spud' as a lot of people have said here.

that's just it tho, he wasn't hitting targets & sides now are extremely good at scoring from turnovers. no doubt he's better than the video suggests but i can only go off what i have seen.

[Diocletian]

Jade Gresham looks like a ready made mid that can play forward. I like his vid quite a bit, especially that goal near the end. Would not be unhappy with him as he plays well on a consistent basis too and has the body that looks like will get strong through the core. Almost Stevie J like with some of the things he can do.

Just watched his clip and didn't think his name had been mentioned but its good to know that at least one of you mugs has a keen eye for talent.
This is the one to take people,get around him.

Too small & possessions aren't damaging -  a short version of B.Ellis...besides, from all reports we're either taking a big bodied inside mid or a small forward with our first pick- he is neither....though he could probably play as a small forward who can play midfield, which I'd prefer to a specialist small forward....having said that, I still wouldn't take him ahead of Ah Chee...

[Jobba]

From 2 whole games of the champs. Oh boy must be his highlights package - which by the way the SA game and Vic Metro game looked pretty damn decent. Its not like he played last year AND made the AA under 18 or played a season with the Geelong falcons.

Nah lets base all our opinions of the first few minutes of a 4 minute youtube video

While I agree with the sentiment of not judging a player by a video (which this video wasn't necessarily a highlights video, was just a video of the times he touched the ball which probably gives a better indication of how a person plays) I don't see how you could come to the conclusion that his games against SA and Vic Metro looked pretty damn decent? They looked poor

Well i watched those games so Im a little more in the know i guess. Context is a wonderful thing. But its all perspective. I saw a guy who hunted the ball and got first use of it. When he was tackled he got it out of congestion and got his arms free. Yeah a shanked kick and a few airy handball a few of which were just referred pressure and a few because as I said he hunted to win his own footy but I would hope most would see that as understandable. He certainly not a 'spud' as a lot of people have said here.

that's just it tho, he wasn't hitting targets & sides now are extremely good at scoring from turnovers. no doubt he's better than the video suggests but i can only go off what i have seen.

I couldn't make heads or tails of your previous post, but how many of those were kicks out of congested situations. There wasn't a lot coming from a standing position. Our own captain is know for just moving the ball forward in contested situations. Most of the kicks in open play - if not all - hit the target

[Yeahright]

You'd expect a first round pick to hit all targets when in the open, which he probably hit half. Not sure about others but I'm more focused on his handballs out of congestion not his kicks. Kicks at least get it going forward a decent way whereas his handballs were always to dirt and gave no advantage whatsoever

[Jobba]

You'd expect a first round pick to hit all targets when in the open, which he probably hit half. Not sure about others but I'm more focused on his handballs out of congestion not his kicks. Kicks at least get it going forward a decent way whereas his handballs were always to dirt and gave no advantage whatsoever

Jua
St watched again and of the times he was not in a conteat situation (a total of 12 by my count). He had 8 possessions that hit the target. 2 that i didnt count were to 1 v 1 contests and one other was a deep inside 50 kick.

Sure loop handballs arent great, i'll concede that point, but only one in the vision everyones already made a conclusion on was he NOT in traffic. It was either referred pressure, hanballs under pressure cause he hunted rhe ball and got first use of it or trying to get bis arms free to dispose of it in the first place.

Im just bewildered how everyone has made a solid expert opinion based on that one video. Reminds me of last year where 80% od people seemed to be anti Corey Ellis because he was so 'vanilla' all based on bloody youtube footage. Howd that work out.

[Diocletian]

Oh ffs, just face facts Mrs. Mathieson...your boy's a hack....