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Was the free kick paid against Richmond’s Jack Riewoldt the right call?

Herald Sun
May 15, 2017


RICHMOND suffered a heartbreaking loss at the MCG today, with a David Mundy goal after the siren sinking the Tigers.

However, should the Tigers have already been home?

Richmond was seemingly robbed of a goal in the final moments of the third quarter when Jack Riewoldt was penalised for a push in the back on the goal line.

The kick from Josh Caddy went through the big sticks but the six points were waved off by the umpires.

Richmond went on to lose the match by two points.

Coach Damien Hardwick intimated post-match Caddy’s goal should have been allowed but conceded his team didn’t deserve to win after playing poorly for three quarters.

“I think we see about 50 goal line shepherds a game, don’t we?,” he said.

“But it’s probably taking away from the result, really. Fremantle were by far the better side today. If we had of stolen that game it was probably a disservice to them in theory.”

Was it the right call from the umpires? Watch the free kick here.

The Richmond fans wasted no time slamming the call.

MattO @STRAYAHUNT
What a joke umpire! @AFL @Richmond_FC @HRTAli1987

Al Paton @al_superfooty
Tigers putrid but great time to pay the first free for a goal-line shepherd in recorded history #AFLTigersDockers

Michael J Voukolos @moggyvouk_82
Dear @AFL What's the beef with .@Richmond_FC? Your umpires have gutted the Tiges like fish two weeks in a row?

Willy Heard @WillyHeard
Disallowed Richmond goal at 3/4 time? AFL wonder why people are getting less interested in the game these days

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/was-the-free-kick-paid-against-richmonds-jack-riewoldt-the-right-call/news-story/3f4a04553dcf16bb596ffc800eaab084

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Re: Frees For and Against Tally for the Season
« Reply #46 on: May 15, 2017, 08:09:13 AM »
The umps are mediators/ moderators only. They are not the game! I'm sick of these pumped up soufflés believing they have a right to stamp their imprimatur on games at crucial moments. We need autistics not 'artists' to officiate this game.

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Re: Frees For and Against Tally for the Season
« Reply #47 on: May 15, 2017, 08:42:49 AM »
Take their numbers off their backs ffs

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Re: Frees For and Against Tally for the Season
« Reply #48 on: May 17, 2017, 10:42:47 PM »
Free Kick Ladder: Post Round 8 – Tiger troubles roll on as Dogs go top

By Bren O'Brien
footyprophet.com
Posted on May 17, 2017



Richmond remain cast adrift at the bottom of the AFL Free Kick ladder after Round 8, having lost yet another free kick count in the heart-breaking loss to Fremantle at the MCG.

The Tigers lost the free kick count in the game 16-17, the seventh time in eight games where the whistle has gone against them. They clearly have the worst record when it comes to conceding free kicks, with 189 in total. 21 more than any other team.

The big movers on the ladder were the Western Bulldogs who became the first team this year to win a free kick against west Coast at Subiaco. In a low free kick match, the Bulldogs won the whistle 15-12, but lost the game. The Bulldogs were the clear premiership winner in this department last year, winning 16 of 22 free kick counts, before winning all four free kick counts in the finals.

They move on top of the ladder after both Collingwood and Carlton lost their respective counts, to drop to third and fourth respectively, while North Melbourne move to second.

The full free kick ladder as of Round 8 is below. Statistics are from AFL Tables.

Team                   P    W    L    D    Pts    FF      FA         %    Movement
Western Bulldogs  8    5    2    1    22    163    127    128.35%    2
North Melbourne   8    5    2    1    22    169    143    118.18%    2
Collingwood          8    5    2    1    22    131    120    109.17%    -2
Carlton                 8    5    3    0    20    148    127    116.54%    -2
Port Adelaide        8    5    3    0    20    159    158    100.63%    3
Melbourne            8    4    3    1    18    152    137    110.95%    3
Gold Coast           8    4    3    1    18    139    137    101.46%    -2
Essendon             8    4    3    1    18    145    145    100.00%    3
Fremantle            8    4    3    1    18    143    144    99.31%    1
West Coast          8    4    4    0    16    147    129    113.95%    -4
Brisbane Lions      8    4    4    0    16    172    160    107.50%    -4
Hawthorn            8    4    4    0    16    138    136    101.47%    1
St Kilda                8    4    4    0    16    143    141    101.42%    -1
Adelaide               8    3    5    0    12    141    161    87.58%    0
GWS Giants         8    3    5    0    12    134    166    80.72%    2
Geelong               8    2    5    1    10    151    169    89.35%    -1
Sydney                8    2    6    0      8    141    168    83.93%    -1
Richmond            8    1    7    0      4    141    189    74.60%    0

http://footyprophet.com/free-kick-ladder-post-round-8/

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Re: Frees For and Against Tally for the Season
« Reply #49 on: May 26, 2017, 11:23:44 PM »
THE STRICTER interpretation of deliberate out of bounds has resulted in a significant decrease in free kicks paid under the rule in 2017 as players make increased efforts to keep the ball in play.

The contentious rule has attracted criticism this season as umpires take a hardline stance on kicks that travel out of bounds, but the AFL believes the new interpretation is "tracking the right way".

A comparison of free kick statistics in the opening nine rounds of 2016 and 2017 has revealed a decrease in deliberate out of bounds decisions from 138 at this stage last year to 103 this year.

A number of trends are revealed in the Champion Data statistics, including a decrease in overall free kicks from 20.2 a game in 2016 to 18.4 a game in 2017.

The contentious holding the ball and incorrect disposal rules have seen little variation from 2016 to 2017.

Champion Data has recorded an increase in throwing the ball free kicks from 120 in 2016 to 167 this year.

However, it is not possible to guarantee 100 per cent accuracy when identifying if a free kick has been paid for holding the ball or incorrect disposal.

When the two categories are combined, there was just one fewer free kick paid in the opening nine rounds of 2017 (846) compared to last year, with an average of 5.28 a game.

There has been a sizable decrease in free kicks paid for high tackles in 2017, with a drop from 779 in 2016 to 571 this year (3.6 a game).

High tackles were the most common free kicks paid last year (4.8 a game), but they have been overtaken by holding the ball this year.

Richmond is revealed as the least disciplined team in the AFL, giving away 206 free kicks compared to 18th-ranked Collingwood's 132.


Club    Total frees against    Deliberate frees    Goals conceded from frees

Richmond   206    8    12
Geelong     191    5    15
Sydney      188    3    18
GWS          185    10    11
Brisbane     181    10    15
Adelaide     175    7    15
Fremantle  166    6    16
Essendon   161    9    20
Melbourne  159    7    12
Port Adel.   158    3    10
St Kilda      158    3    8
Hawthorn   153    7    17
North Melb 153    4    18
Carlton       152    5    18
West Coast 147    3    11
W.Bulldogs  144    6    11
Gold Coast  137    4    25
Collingwood 132    3    8

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-05-26/hardline-stance-sends-deliberate-frees-down

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Re: Frees For and Against Tally for the Season
« Reply #50 on: May 27, 2017, 08:35:05 PM »
stuffen cheats!

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Re: Frees For and Against Tally for the Season
« Reply #51 on: May 27, 2017, 08:47:30 PM »
That deliberate rushed one is probably the worst one yet.

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Re: Frees For and Against Tally for the Season
« Reply #52 on: May 27, 2017, 10:19:53 PM »
Overall we had the best of the decisions tonight imo.

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Re: Frees For and Against Tally for the Season
« Reply #53 on: May 27, 2017, 10:19:59 PM »
That deliberate rushed one is probably the worst one yet.

Yep and Mark Stevens reporting AFL wont have problems ticking it off either. Becoming a joke.
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Re: Frees For and Against Tally for the Season
« Reply #54 on: May 27, 2017, 10:33:10 PM »
That deliberate rushed one is probably the worst one yet.
The umpire who paid that needs to be tarred and feathered, he had it in for us all night, probably had $5 on ess with sportsbet

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Re: Frees For and Against Tally for the Season
« Reply #55 on: May 27, 2017, 10:37:36 PM »
Contrary to others I thought the ump got that right... We had enough troops to clear it if Shorty grabbed the ball.

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Re: Frees For and Against Tally for the Season
« Reply #56 on: May 27, 2017, 10:48:15 PM »
He was running full steam from 50m to save a rolling ball and a player on his clacker, I can't see any way he could have picked that up.

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Re: Frees For and Against Tally for the Season
« Reply #57 on: May 27, 2017, 10:51:02 PM »
That deliberate rushed one is probably the worst one yet.
The umpire who paid that needs to be tarred and feathered, he had it in for us all night, probably had $5 on ess with sportsbet


Umpire number 11. Has been putrid all year :banghead

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Re: Frees For and Against Tally for the Season
« Reply #58 on: May 27, 2017, 10:56:51 PM »
He was running full steam from 50m to save a rolling ball and a player on his clacker, I can't see any way he could have picked that up.
This.

I would also add that if the chaser pulls up to cry to the ump for the free rather than attack the ball or player then it shouldn't be called deliberate.

Also tonight's incident was nothing like the Callum Mills one. Mills knocked the ball through from the top of the goalsquare (10m out). Short was only about one metre from the goal line.
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Re: Frees For and Against Tally for the Season
« Reply #59 on: May 27, 2017, 11:00:27 PM »
That deliberate rushed one is probably the worst one yet.
The umpire who paid that needs to be tarred and feathered, he had it in for us all night, probably had $5 on ess with sportsbet


Umpire number 11. Has been putrid all year :banghead
That's Deboy. Only umpired 18 AFL games and screwed us in 3 of them over the past month. IIRC this is the second time he's wrongly nailed Short for deliberate. The other time was that crap decision against the Dogs.

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