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Re: 2017 AFL Draft thread
« Reply #90 on: October 23, 2017, 09:51:14 PM »
AFL draft 2017: Brisbane Lions top of draft points ladder, Essendon last

Al Paton,
Herald Sun
23 october 2017


ESSENDON might have won the trade period, but it has also collected an unusual wooden spoon.

The Bombers have just 371 draft points, miles behind the AFL-leading Brisbane Lions who have more than 6000 points up their sleeve heading into next month’s national draft.

The points are a clear indication of the strength of every club’s draft hand when all their picks are added together.

The AFL introduced the draft points index in 2015 as a way to value selections which clubs use to pay for father-son and academy selections on draft night (for example, if a club ahead of Richmond in this year’s draft order bids for Patrick Naish, the Tigers can match the bid and claim Naish, but have to pay for moving up the order in draft points — minus a 20 per cent discount). It’s also a weigh of measuring who wins in trade deals.

Pick one is worth 3000 points, pick 10 is worth 1395 points, pick 50 is 273 points and pick 73 is worth nine points — every pick after that is worth zero.

Draft points ladder

Club                  Draft points
1. Brisbane Lions   6134
2. Fremantle   5045
3. Carlton   4267
4. St Kilda   4204
5. West Coast   3935
6. Richmond   3133
7. GWS Giants   2981
8. North Melbourne   2950
9. Melbourne   2730
10. Collingwood   2584
11. Western Bulldogs   2536
12. Geelong   2341
13. Sydney   1983
14. Gold Coast    1853
15. Adelaide   1714
16. Port Adelaide   1011
17. Hawthorn   437
18. Essendon   371

Taken literally, a player taken at pick one is six times as good as a player who goes at pick 36 (502 points) and about 100 times better than pick 71 (29 points), which of course is not always entirely accurate.

But it does reveal some big take-outs from the post-season:

— Essendon will pay the price on draft night for giving away its two highest draft picks for Jake Stringer and Devon Smith. The Bombers’ first selection is pick 48, worth only 302 points.

— Hawthorn is still paying for parting with most of its draft picks this year to get its hands on Jaeger O’Meara and Tom Mitchell last year. After also handing over pick 33 for Jarman Impey, it has only two picks with a points value: 43 (378 points) and 68 (59 points)

— Fremantle won the trade period when draft points are factored in. As well as snaring Nathan Wilson and Brandon Matera, the Dockers kept their own pick 5 (1878 points) and added pick 2 (2517 points) in a swap for Lachie Weller
Brendon Goddard will be hoping Essendon recruiters can find some gems late in the draft.

— Carlton was smart, too, bringing in three players and keeping two top-10 draft picks

— North Melbourne fans might be scratching their heads after the Roos failed to add to their list or improve their draft position, despite being in full rebound mode. How are they behind Richmond and the Giants?

— The Tigers are in a very strong position after winning the flag, with a late pick swap with the Lions — plus the future pick they got for Brett Deledio last year — helping them move up 12 places from a ‘natural’ draft order.


— West Coast has five picks inside the top 40 but just one in the top 20 resulting in a healthy but not outstanding draft points ranking. Word is they have some mature-age WAFL players on the radar who could be picked up in the second or third round.

Of course, draft points on their own aren’t worth anything. Now it’s up to recruiters to make them count.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/brisbane-lions-have-6134-draft-points-essendon-just-371-after-afl-trade-period/news-story/46a0a378d63da9e399f90b6991849838

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Re: 2017 AFL Draft thread
« Reply #91 on: October 23, 2017, 09:55:57 PM »
The draft board on Fox Sports has Naish, Balta & Bonnar in Tiger colours with their pick selections noting that this is just an indicative order not what they think will happen
I would be happy with those 3.

Yeah, they look alright. Lot of potential.

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Re: 2017 AFL Draft thread
« Reply #92 on: October 24, 2017, 12:13:49 AM »
Another bloke we should be seriously considering as a DFA is Sam Collins....after Rance, Grimes & Astbury, our KPD depth is virtually non-existent....basically just a couple of raw kids...Beasley & Collins would be a good cheap fix and allow us to be more flexible (and patient) with Garthwaite & Chol...especially we also pick up Balta in the draft...:shh
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Re: 2017 AFL Draft thread
« Reply #93 on: October 25, 2017, 01:46:38 PM »
Brett Anderson on SEN just after midday:

* Brett Anderson says it's still an open question whether another club will bid for Naish before our pick 17. The Bulldogs may show some interest. He believes Naish will slide past our first pick.

At 17:
Sam Hayes - forward/ruck.
Oscar Allen might go before then but he'll be a good fit if he's still around.

Believes we will go a combo of Naish plus a tall with our early picks.


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Re: 2017 AFL Draft thread
« Reply #94 on: October 27, 2017, 03:03:36 AM »
Fitzbane just delisted Close....worth a look as a dfa or rookie.... :shh
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Re: 2017 AFL Draft thread
« Reply #95 on: October 27, 2017, 03:47:09 PM »
With 3 picks in the top 25, it'll be interesting to see if we take the punt on Aiden Bonar if he's still available:


His performances at the Combine and late in the year have rocketed Bonar into first-round calculations. It would be a surprise to see him still on the board into the 20s now, and there are also whispers he could sneak into the first dozen. 

It will still be something of a punt to use an early pick on Bonar, but he's one who could really pay off. He's one of the most intriguing players in the pool but the mystery lies in his talent: who has seen enough to grab him and back him in?




http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-10-27/tomorrows-heroes-elite-talent-with-massive-upside

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Re: 2017 AFL Draft thread
« Reply #96 on: October 27, 2017, 09:45:00 PM »
240 prospects profiles complete ahead of print day on Monday for @InsideFooty's 2017 #AFLDraft Guide.

Who will your club take?

Out 6th Nov.

https://twitter.com/BAndersonSEN/status/923836888238080000

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Re: 2017 AFL Draft thread
« Reply #97 on: October 29, 2017, 01:58:27 PM »
Potential draftee Ben Paton is a Tiger supporter.

The other dream being a Richmond premiership, which he witnessed last month just hours after racking up 21 disposals on the same MCG turf for Team Harvey in the Under 18s All-Stars clash — the curtain-raiser for the Tigers-Crows Grand Final.

For Paton, who models his game on ex-Tiger Brett Deledio — “I looked up to Lids ... until he moved” — September 30, 2017 was a fairly memorable day.

“The household was very up and about. I’ve been brainwashed by them,” Paton says.




BEN PATON

Clubs: Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country

Position: Medium Defender

Size: 185cm, 78kg

Draft Range: 30-50

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-draft-2017-careerchanging-switch-to-defence-keeps-ben-patons-afl-career-alive/news-story/932e70c1d663b959285e1ff51fa08b76

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Re: 2017 AFL Draft thread
« Reply #98 on: October 29, 2017, 02:25:01 PM »
We should almost draft Paton on that comment about Lids.

Unfortunately, from the description of the type of player he is, he'd be a fair way down the pecking order at the moment. Can't see it happening.

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Re: 2017 AFL Draft thread
« Reply #99 on: October 29, 2017, 02:38:12 PM »
I'd still pass on Naish if he's bid on before 20 at least...especially if Brayshaw's still on the board.... :shh
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Re: 2017 AFL Draft thread
« Reply #100 on: October 29, 2017, 08:59:55 PM »

For Paton, who models his game on ex-Tiger Brett Deledio

So he goes missing in big games?

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Re: 2017 AFL Draft thread
« Reply #101 on: October 29, 2017, 09:29:23 PM »

For Paton, who models his game on ex-Tiger Brett Deledio

So he goes missing in big games?
Nope. Misses most of the year with injury. :lol
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Re: 2017 AFL Draft thread
« Reply #102 on: October 29, 2017, 10:04:34 PM »

For Paton, who models his game on ex-Tiger Brett Deledio

So he goes missing in big games?

or doesnt give autograph to kids?

Just on that i never saw lids or heard he did that outside of OER, but funnily enough i met a random old lady at the club merch store a few weeks ago who said exactly the same thing to me. She said he ran away from her niece or something like that and hid behind a wall laughing or something.

She came straight out and said it to me when his name was brought up.

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Re: 2017 AFL Draft thread
« Reply #103 on: October 30, 2017, 10:10:44 AM »
probably thought he would just sign a few relo's items and not anyone elses because he was such a big shot and let them sell them for big moola.  Now that he is a failed trade on, it ain't worth jack poo.  Now his sig at tigerland is about as popular as a prick flavored lolly pop. 
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Re: 2017 AFL Draft thread
« Reply #104 on: October 30, 2017, 10:28:29 AM »
I'd still pass on Naish if he's bid on before 20 at least...especially if Brayshaw's still on the board.... :shh


You talking about Andrew?...surely will be gone by then. Seriously talented and reminds me of Trent.