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2017 AFL Draft thread
« on: June 07, 2017, 05:48:12 PM »
Currently as the ladder stands, we hold picks 15, 16, 50, 53, 68, 86, ...

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-06-07/afl-indicative-draft-order-june-2017
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Re: 2017 AFL Draft thread
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2017, 08:33:20 PM »
Currently as the ladder stands, we hold picks 15, 16, 50, 68, 86, ...

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-06-07/afl-indicative-draft-order-june-2017

we also have 53, from GWS as part of Lids deal

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Re: 2017 AFL Draft thread
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2017, 04:19:39 AM »
Currently as the ladder stands, we hold picks 15, 16, 50, 68, 86, ...

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-06-07/afl-indicative-draft-order-june-2017

we also have 53, from GWS as part of Lids deal
Cheers, taz. OP corrected.

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Re: 2017 AFL Draft thread
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2017, 09:58:23 AM »
Does anyone think our later picks are exchangeable of a second rounder to get Naish? Probably wishful thinking.

Might have to trade out to get one.
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Re: 2017 AFL Draft thread
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2017, 02:13:18 PM »
I don't know the details but apparently clubs can go into a points deficit to get f/s & academy picks...
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Re: 2017 AFL Draft thread
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2017, 04:20:54 PM »
I don't know the details but apparently clubs can go into a points deficit to get f/s & academy picks...

Might be the way to go out of necessity. Then again why not clear out some deadwood and get some picks. Two birds one stone.
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Re: 2017 AFL Draft thread
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2017, 07:41:37 PM »
Yes that's what we should do,

Anyway, posted this in another thread but it fits here as well:



http://footyprophet.com/class-of-2017-forwards/

Jarrod Brander sounds exciting.....wonder if Brisbane would swap both our firsts for their #1 pick? (presuming we don't go for Kelly) :shh



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Re: 2017 AFL Draft thread
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2017, 07:52:05 PM »
Yes that's what we should do,

Anyway, posted this in another thread but it fits here as well:



http://footyprophet.com/class-of-2017-forwards/

Jarrod Brander sounds exciting.....wonder if Brisbane would swap both our firsts for their #1 pick? (presuming we don't go for Kelly) :shh

In 2009 Sydney offered (from memory) pick 6 and 14 for our pick 3 coz they wanted Martin. FWIW. And we said no.
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Re: 2017 AFL Draft thread
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2017, 07:57:44 PM »
Coleman-Jones or Balta might be more realistic targets as kpp
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Re: 2017 AFL Draft thread
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2017, 08:35:50 AM »
Go to the draft with our two first round picks simple as that one KP and one best available.Target a free agency KP or a fringe on the outer.

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Re: 2017 AFL Draft thread
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2017, 01:51:50 PM »
Does anyone think our later picks are exchangeable of a second rounder to get Naish? Probably wishful thinking.

Might have to trade out to get one.

The combined value of picks 50 and 53 at the moment do not even equal the lowest second round pick.

If Naish goes first round we are going to have to use one of our first round picks or trade out someone for a high second round pick. Or try and use 2018 picks to get back into the second round.

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Re: 2017 AFL Draft thread
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2017, 02:06:12 PM »
I don't know the details but apparently clubs can go into a points deficit to get f/s & academy picks...

The AFL changed the rules and you can only use the same number of picks as you have spots left open on your list, They also allowed you to go into deficit the next year if you don't have sufficient value in picks in the current year. However going into deficit will affect your draft picks in the next year.

For example the two third rounders we have now have a combined value of approximately 490 and with the allowance for the 20% discount we have about 610 points to go towards Naish.

If we trade our first two picks away and Naish gets a bid at around pick 18 this has a point value of 985. We would still be 375 points short. We then have to use our fourth round pick value, which at this point is pick # 69 and has 49 points attached. So still 326 points short and will carry over to next year.

This 326 would come off the value of what ever our 2018 first round pick is dropping it back into the second round. Or we can trade out our 2018 first round and then our second round pick will be affected by the 326 carry over dropping it back potentially to the 4th round.


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Re: 2017 AFL Draft thread
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2017, 08:32:00 PM »
well...stuff that idea then.....cheers....
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Re: 2017 AFL Draft thread
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2017, 07:24:59 PM »
Being 4th on the ladder, we currently hold first round picks 15 & 16.

Callum Twomey's Phantom Form Guide - July edition

afl.com.au
6 July 2017


IT'S THAT time of the year again. The NAB AFL Under-18 Championships are over, which means we're ready to order the top group of prospects in this year's draft pool.

This is AFL.com.au's first Phantom Form Guide for 2017, where we rank the best 25 players available to clubs at this year's draft.

Just as a reminder, this is purely a ranking and does not take into account the selections held by clubs or academy and father-son prospects.

It is also not a mock draft. It is simply a list of the best players from our view. The Phantom Form Guide will be updated monthly in the lead-up to November's draft.


1. Cameron Rayner           Half-forward/midfielder,   Ht 187cm, Wt 88kg, DOB 21/10/1999    Western Jets/Vic Metro
2. Luke Davies-Uniacke     Midfielder,                       Ht 187cm, Wt 85kg, DOB 8/6/1999       Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country
3. Adam Cerra                  Midfielder,                       Ht 186cm, Wt 85kg, DOB 7/10/1999     Eastern Ranges/Vic Country 
4. Darcy Fogarty               Half-forward/midfielder,   Ht 192cm, Wt 92kg, DOB 25/9/1999     Glenelg/South Australia
5. Will Sutherland             Key forward,                    Ht 195cm, Wt 90kg, DOB 27/10/1999   Scotch College/Vic Metro
6. Jarrod Brander             Key defender/key forward, Ht 194cm, Wt 89kg, DOB 11/2/1999    Bendigo Pioneers/Allies
7. Jaidyn Stephenson        Half-forward,                    Ht 189cm, Wt 76kg, DOB 15/1/1999    Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
8. Jack Higgins                 Small forward/midfielder,  Ht 178cm, Wt 76kg, DOB 19/3/1999    Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
9. Lochie O'Brien              Midfielder,                        Ht 184cm, Wt 75kg, DOB 18/9/1999    Bendigo Pioneers/Vic Country
10. Sam Hayes                 Ruckman/key forward,      Ht 203cm, Wt 93kg, DOB 9/6/1999      Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
11. Paddy Dow                 Midfielder,                        Ht 184cm, Wt 78kg, DOB 16/10/1999  Bendigo Pioneers/Vic Country
12. Hunter Clark               Half-back/midfielder,        Ht 186cm, Wt 79kg, DOB 26/3/1999    Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country
13. Connor Ballenden        Key forward,                    Ht 199cm, Wt 95kg, DOB 29/3/1999    Brisbane Lions academy/Allies

14. Patrick Naish               Midfielder,                       Ht 183cm, Wt 73kg, DOB 15/1/1999    Northern Knights/Vic Metro
Naish gives the top end of the draft genuine dash. The wingman loves to tuck the ball under his arm and go for a run, and then use his penetrating right-foot kicking to spot up a target. It is the combination of these two facets of his game the drive and the disposal that set him apart. One of Naish's best games of the carnival came at what may well become his AFL home, Punt Road Oval, where he gathered 24 disposals and kicked two goals. The Richmond father-son prospect (his dad Chris played 143 games for the Tigers) loves a goal and regularly hits the scoreboard.

15. Joel Garner                Half-back/midfielder,        Ht 183cm, Wt 81kg, DOB 21/5/1999      Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
16. Nick Coffield              Midfielder/half-back,         Ht 190cm, Wt 83kg, DOB 23/10/1999    Northern Knights/Vic Metro
17. Jack Petruccelle         Half-back/half-forward,     Ht 184cm, Wt 73kg, DOB 12/4/1999      Northern Knights/Vic Metro
18. Charlie Constable       Midfielder,                       Ht 190cm, Wt 83kg, DOB 23/10/1999    Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
19. Oscar Allen                Key forward,                    Ht 191cm, Wt 83kg, DOB 19/3/1999      West Perth/Western Australia
20. Aaron Naughton         Key defender,                  Ht 194cm, Wt 84kg, DOB 30/11/1999    Peel Thunder/Western Australia
21. Lachlan Fogarty         Midfielder,                        Ht 179cm, Wt 75kg, DOB 1/4/1999       Western Jets/Vic Metro
22. Andrew Brayshaw      Midfielder,                        Ht 183cm, Wt 80kg, DOB 8/11/1999      Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
23. Callum Coleman-Jones  Ruckman/key forward,   Ht 201cm, Wt 98kg, DOB 13/6/1999      Sturt/South Australia
24. Noah Balta                Key defender,                  Ht 194cm, Wt 92kg, DOB 23/10/1999     Calder Cannons/Vic Metro
25. Matthew Ling             Midfielder,                       Ht 182cm, Wt 74kg, DOB 21/4/1999      Geelong Falcons/Vic Country

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-07-06/callum-twomeys-phantom-form-guide-july-edition

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Re: 2017 AFL Draft thread
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2017, 07:34:19 PM »
Would anyone consider trading both picks for say pick 10 to get Sam Hayes.
Kpf gotta be on top of the list.