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Re: Changes for Qualifying Final against Cats?
« Reply #45 on: August 29, 2017, 09:22:06 PM »
With the week off this week, do we think it will help or hinder us?
I personally think it won't help, our last couple of weeks have been really good and I'd prefer to just keep on this roll.

Thoughts?

Agree

Thats why any blokes who are qualified for VFL finsls I'd look at playing them on Saturday.

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Re: Changes for Qualifying Final against Cats?
« Reply #46 on: August 29, 2017, 10:26:18 PM »
With the week off this week, do we think it will help or hinder us?
I personally think it won't help, our last couple of weeks have been really good and I'd prefer to just keep on this roll.

Thoughts?

Not a fan, I think it will be more of a problem for us than a help.

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Re: Changes for Qualifying Final against Cats?
« Reply #47 on: August 29, 2017, 10:57:29 PM »

And your witnessing this from yesterday??
He had 2 tackles and one was a missed opportunity ten metres out from goal as he had Roberton cold but let him go....


Dude broke a rib, I'd cut him a little slack for that one...

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Re: Changes for Qualifying Final against Cats?
« Reply #48 on: August 30, 2017, 01:50:11 AM »
I'm pretty sure Rioli's main goals set are to harass, pressure, tackle.

I think you will find Rioli playing more up the field and through the midfield once his body gets bigger and his tank improves.  At this stage the easily pleased stat noters should be satisfied.

I for one think we are witnessing the birth of a real special player.
And your witnessing this from yesterday??
He had 2 tackles and one was a missed opportunity ten metres out from goal as he had Roberton cold but let him go....
And he had 2 kicks and one was a missed goal from the top of the square under little pressure...

I know he won't get dropped as he lives with the coach but take the blinders off for a minute.
He was still twice as good than Castagna on the day.  :shh

But still not good enough.
:lol no he wasn't. Not even close.
But let's be honest you cannot see past your hatered for Cotch to watch the game properly  :whistle
I never have said I hated Cotchin ever.
I only rate him higher than most and expect more from him than the average footballer on our list. 

As for Rioli and Castagna's last game. Both were crap but Rioli was still twice as good.
Rioli had more possessions, twice as many tackles inside f50. More pressure acts, contested possessions and more intercept possessions so he was twice as good or he was not half as bad as your love child lasagna.  :whistle
 Both need to lift next game if they aren't omitted.
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Re: Changes for Qualifying Final against Cats?
« Reply #49 on: August 30, 2017, 05:33:31 AM »
How did we all rate Rioli's 2 kicks and 2 tackles...

And one of those 2 kicks he had, he missed a goal from the goal square.

He laid a brilliant tackle near the goal square and should have been rewarded. Came off injured after that tackle.
Is that the brilliant tackle where he let the St.Kilda player go so he could get a handball away?? I know the holding the ball rule is pretty sketchy at the monument but I'm pretty sure if you get a handball away it's not holding the ball.

I haven't seen the reply so I can't be definitive but from what I saw it was incorrect disposal. It should have been paid.

Further to this watched the reply. It appears that when Roberton was first tackled he threw the ball up, caught the ball and has then handpassed it.

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Re: Changes for Qualifying Final against Cats?
« Reply #50 on: August 30, 2017, 06:55:21 PM »
I'm pretty sure Rioli's main goals set are to harass, pressure, tackle.

I think you will find Rioli playing more up the field and through the midfield once his body gets bigger and his tank improves.  At this stage the easily pleased stat noters should be satisfied.

I for one think we are witnessing the birth of a real special player.
And your witnessing this from yesterday??
He had 2 tackles and one was a missed opportunity ten metres out from goal as he had Roberton cold but let him go....
And he had 2 kicks and one was a missed goal from the top of the square under little pressure...

I know he won't get dropped as he lives with the coach but take the blinders off for a minute.
He was still twice as good than Castagna on the day.  :shh

But still not good enough.
:lol no he wasn't. Not even close.
But let's be honest you cannot see past your hatered for Cotch to watch the game properly  :whistle
I never have said I hated Cotchin ever.
I only rate him higher than most and expect more from him than the average footballer on our list. 

As for Rioli and Castagna's last game. Both were crap but Rioli was still twice as good.
Rioli had more possessions, twice as many tackles inside f50. More pressure acts, contested possessions and more intercept possessions so he was twice as good or he was not half as bad as your love child lasagna.  :whistle
 Both need to lift next game if they aren't omitted.
What a pathetic effort of twisting a stat to suit your argument.
Rioli had 2 tackles for the game and George had 4 and yet you twist that to favour Rioli. Wowee!
Watching the replay George was pretty good in the first half when the game was on the line. He should have had a goal but was unselfish and gave a "Joe the Goose" handball over the top to Townsend.
Like you say though both need to contribute more but don't try and convince yourself that Rioli has been twice as good as anyone.
In fact if I had to choose between Rioli and a 2nd gamer in Graham to play in a final I would chose Graham every time.

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Re: Changes for Qualifying Final against Cats?
« Reply #51 on: August 30, 2017, 07:22:26 PM »
Rioli was brilliant against Freo the week before. Just watched the replay of that game again on Foxtel Go.

Big tone. You need to lay off Rioli. He is a small forward. Those guys don't rack up big stats. He leads the year in pressure acts in our forward zone. That is what he is asked to do as his number one job. He can't be dropped for doing exactly what the coach asks him to do and doing it well.

As for the 3 amigos, they have almost identical stats for disposals and tackles this year. Amazing.
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Re: Changes for Qualifying Final against Cats?
« Reply #52 on: August 30, 2017, 07:24:46 PM »
It's hard to aspire to a leader who lets his mrs do the moral thinking for him.
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Re: Changes for Qualifying Final against Cats?
« Reply #53 on: August 30, 2017, 07:30:16 PM »
In one sentence you say...

What a pathetic effort of twisting a stat to suit your argument.
Rioli had 2 tackles for the game and George had 4 and yet you twist that to favour Rioli. Wowee!

But then in the next breath say

In fact if I had to choose between Rioli and a 2nd gamer in Graham to play in a final I would chose Graham every time.

Wowee...

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Re: Changes for Qualifying Final against Cats?
« Reply #54 on: August 30, 2017, 09:32:04 PM »
Hardwick said Josh Caddy is almost certain to return to take on the Cats, but he was tossing up whether to give him a hitout in the VFL this week as he recovers from a hamstring injury.

Source: Herald-Sun website

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Re: Changes for Qualifying Final against Cats?
« Reply #55 on: August 30, 2017, 10:21:09 PM »
In one sentence you say...

What a pathetic effort of twisting a stat to suit your argument.
Rioli had 2 tackles for the game and George had 4 and yet you twist that to favour Rioli. Wowee!

But then in the next breath say

In fact if I had to choose between Rioli and a 2nd gamer in Graham to play in a final I would chose Graham every time.

Wowee...
What has one got to do with the other?
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Re: Changes for Qualifying Final against Cats?
« Reply #56 on: August 30, 2017, 10:41:04 PM »
I'm pretty sure Rioli's main goals set are to harass, pressure, tackle.

I think you will find Rioli playing more up the field and through the midfield once his body gets bigger and his tank improves.  At this stage the easily pleased stat noters should be satisfied.

I for one think we are witnessing the birth of a real special player.
And your witnessing this from yesterday??
He had 2 tackles and one was a missed opportunity ten metres out from goal as he had Roberton cold but let him go....
And he had 2 kicks and one was a missed goal from the top of the square under little pressure...

I know he won't get dropped as he lives with the coach but take the blinders off for a minute.
He was still twice as good than Castagna on the day.  :shh

But still not good enough.
:lol no he wasn't. Not even close.
But let's be honest you cannot see past your hatered for Cotch to watch the game properly  :whistle
I never have said I hated Cotchin ever.
I only rate him higher than most and expect more from him than the average footballer on our list. 

As for Rioli and Castagna's last game. Both were crap but Rioli was still twice as good.
Rioli had more possessions, twice as many tackles inside f50. More pressure acts, contested possessions and more intercept possessions so he was twice as good or he was not half as bad as your love child lasagna.  :whistle
 Both need to lift next game if they aren't omitted.
What a pathetic effort of twisting a stat to suit your argument.
Rioli had 2 tackles for the game and George had 4 and yet you twist that to favour Rioli. Wowee!
Watching the replay George was pretty good in the first half when the game was on the line. He should have had a goal but was unselfish and gave a "Joe the Goose" handball over the top to Townsend.
Like you say though both need to contribute more but don't try and convince yourself that Rioli has been twice as good as anyone.
In fact if I had to choose between Rioli and a 2nd gamer in Graham to play in a final I would chose Graham every time.
You may have but it seems you haven't been critical of Castagna poor performances but are very quick to highlight Rioli.
But you were right I did twist the stats to suit my argument.

The debate was about Rioli and Castagnas game against saints but not anything to do with Graham who I'm sure we all are very impressed with. 

All three amigos have had pretty good years no doubt their contribution has helped in our current position. But I think I'm not alone in seeing massive upside in Rioli over Castagna not to say that Castagna couldn't improve or hasn't already improved.
Out of the three I'd put Rioli on top with the most ability. Butler second and Castagna last because his kicking is atrocious and he lacks the decision making skill of the other two. I also think that out of the three I see Rioli and Butler eventually progressing into the middle but I don't think the same with Castagna.
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Re: Changes for Qualifying Final against Cats?
« Reply #57 on: August 30, 2017, 11:31:53 PM »
I'm pretty sure Rioli's main goals set are to harass, pressure, tackle.

I think you will find Rioli playing more up the field and through the midfield once his body gets bigger and his tank improves.  At this stage the easily pleased stat noters should be satisfied.

I for one think we are witnessing the birth of a real special player.
And your witnessing this from yesterday??
He had 2 tackles and one was a missed opportunity ten metres out from goal as he had Roberton cold but let him go....
And he had 2 kicks and one was a missed goal from the top of the square under little pressure...

I know he won't get dropped as he lives with the coach but take the blinders off for a minute.
He was still twice as good than Castagna on the day.  :shh

But still not good enough.
:lol no he wasn't. Not even close.
But let's be honest you cannot see past your hatered for Cotch to watch the game properly  :whistle
I never have said I hated Cotchin ever.
I only rate him higher than most and expect more from him than the average footballer on our list. 

As for Rioli and Castagna's last game. Both were crap but Rioli was still twice as good.
Rioli had more possessions, twice as many tackles inside f50. More pressure acts, contested possessions and more intercept possessions so he was twice as good or he was not half as bad as your love child lasagna.  :whistle
 Both need to lift next game if they aren't omitted.
What a pathetic effort of twisting a stat to suit your argument.
Rioli had 2 tackles for the game and George had 4 and yet you twist that to favour Rioli. Wowee!
Watching the replay George was pretty good in the first half when the game was on the line. He should have had a goal but was unselfish and gave a "Joe the Goose" handball over the top to Townsend.
Like you say though both need to contribute more but don't try and convince yourself that Rioli has been twice as good as anyone.
In fact if I had to choose between Rioli and a 2nd gamer in Graham to play in a final I would chose Graham every time.
You may have but it seems you haven't been critical of Castagna poor performances but are very quick to highlight Rioli.
But you were right I did twist the stats to suit my argument.

The debate was about Rioli and Castagnas game against saints but not anything to do with Graham who I'm sure we all are very impressed with. 

All three amigos have had pretty good years no doubt their contribution has helped in our current position. But I think I'm not alone in seeing massive upside in Rioli over Castagna not to say that Castagna couldn't improve or hasn't already improved.
Out of the three I'd put Rioli on top with the most ability. Butler second and Castagna last because his kicking is atrocious and he lacks the decision making skill of the other two. I also think that out of the three I see Rioli and Butler eventually progressing into the middle but I don't think the same with Castagna.
I'm not saying Rioli doesn't have upside but I'm judging him on his output this season and imo it's below the other two.
He is a first round draft pick that should be running rings around the other two but he is not. Far from it.
He missed a goal from the top of the goal square and had 1 other kick for the entire day. And 2 tackles one of which he should have nailed but he didn't.

The other reference to Graham was I think a 2nd game player has already shown he is more comfortable at the level. And if it were up to me if I had to choose out of the two who plays against Geelong, I'd choose Graham.

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Re: Changes for Qualifying Final against Cats?
« Reply #58 on: August 31, 2017, 04:47:28 AM »
It's hard to aspire to a leader who lets his mrs do the moral thinking for him.

Yeah but he also has a direct phone line to god so it all evens out
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Re: Changes for Qualifying Final against Cats?
« Reply #59 on: August 31, 2017, 06:55:12 AM »
Spoke to a Geelong supporter who stated boldly that whoever wins on Friday of next week is guaranteed a grand final berth given the winner of the Tigers/Cats clash will most likely next play Port Adelaide in Victoria.  What do people think?