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Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
« Reply #45 on: September 24, 2019, 08:03:49 PM »
I love how they write articles about which decent player their poxy sniper players need to take out of the game, classy stuff.
Lots of people name their swords......

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Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
« Reply #46 on: September 25, 2019, 01:29:59 AM »
The AFL website is tipping us to win by just over 2 goals.

Mega-preview: Grand Final, Richmond v Greater Western Sydney

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Sarah Black
Sep 24, 2019


SUMMARY

Not many people tipped this as the Grand Final match-up at the start of the year, and even fewer thought it would happen mid-season when both clubs were beset by injuries. Richmond dropped as low as ninth before the bye, but has won an astonishing 11 consecutive games, the second-best streak in club history. Greater Western Sydney has done it the hard way to qualify for the Grand Final, finishing sixth and defeating the Western Bulldogs, Brisbane and Collingwood on the way to the decider. Both sides play high-pressure games with fierce tackling a feature, meaning composure will be the key to premiership glory.

WHERE AND WHEN:
MCG, Saturday, September 28, 2.30pm AEST

WHAT HAPPENED THIS YEAR?

Round 17: Richmond 13.16 (94) d GWS 9.13 (67) at the MCG

Richmond was the closest it had been to full-strength to that point of the season, while GWS lost important playmaker Stephen Coniglio to a knee injury. The Tigers got off to a hot start, keeping the Giants to just two points in the first term while kicking four goals of their own, and were never headed.

Round 3:
GWS 19.11 (125) d Richmond 10.16 (76) at Giants Stadium

It was the Jeremy show as Cameron and Finlayson combined for a whopping 12 goals against an undermanned Richmond defence. The Giants kicked six goals to two in the second term to break the game apart. Matt De Boer comfortably nullified Dustin Martin, while Kane Lambert and Dion Prestia battled hard.

LAST FIVE TIMES

Rd 17, 2019, Richmond 13.16 (94) d GWS 9.13 (67) at the MCG
Rd 3, 2019, GWS 19.11 (125) d Richmond 10.16 (76) at Giants Stadium
Rd 17, 2018, GWS 11.13 (79) d Richmond 10.17 (77) at Giants Stadium
2PF, 2017, Richmond 15.13 (103) d GWS 9.13 (67) at the MCG
Rd 18, 2017, Richmond 9.10 (64) d GWS 6.9 (45) at the MCG

WHAT TO WATCH FOR


Richmond

1. The influence of the classy Shane Edwards (16th overall in AFL Player Ratings) in crucial moments. He is often thrown in the middle when the game needs a spark. Watch his hands closely, he has a tendency to set up teammates in space with clever flicks and handballs.

2. Richmond's forward-line set-up is a changing beast, with one of Tom Lynch, Jack Riewoldt or Dustin Martin as the deepest forward. The constant movement can often catch opposition defences off-guard and force mismatches.

3. The Tigers are statistically the worst clearance side, averaging 34 a match, while the Giants are the best with 42. Richmond is used to playing this way, backing its strong defence to rebound and set up attacking forays.

Greater Western Sydney

1. Richmond may pride itself on its strong defensive unit, but the Giants' is potentially even better. Phil Davis, Nick Haynes, Sam Taylor and Heath Shaw are all strong intercept markers and work well as a unit to cover each other's players.

2. Jeremy Cameron (58th overall in the AFL Player Ratings) has had a strong recent record against Richmond, booting 10 goals from 49 disposals in two matches this year. He missed the 2017 preliminary final between these two sides with a hamstring complaint.

3. The Giants are one of the best running sides in the competition, and have good depth in the area too, as evidenced by Zac Williams' successful stint on the wing in the preliminary final. Lachie Whitfield is also poised to return from appendix surgery.

THE MATCH-UP

Dustin Martin v Matt De BoerMartin was rattled in round three, lashing out and striking Adam Kennedy while being held to just 15 disposals by De Boer. The Giant was sidelined with a collarbone injury the last time the two sides met, with Martin jumping to 25 touches.

IT'S A BIG WEEK FOR…


Jack Riewoldt (Richmond)

An uncharacteristically quiet prelim from the Tigers spearhead, missing two late goals with poor set shots, but he did set up several majors for teammates. Riewoldt will be champing at the bit to get on the scoreboard in the biggest game of all.

Toby Greene (GWS)

All eyes are on Toby (pun intended) on his return from a contentious one-week suspension. When Greene is at his best, he is one of the most damaging players in the competition, but he also has a self-destructive streak.

BIG CALL


Bachar Houli was unlucky to miss the 2017 Norm Smith and is currently in red-hot form, cherry ripe for a best-on-ground performance.

PREDICTION: Richmond by 14 points

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-09-24/megapreview-grand-final-richmond-v-greater-western-sydney

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Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
« Reply #47 on: September 25, 2019, 01:09:24 PM »
The media saying Whitfield and Coniglio trained today for the Giants but Phil Davis was still missing.

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Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
« Reply #48 on: September 25, 2019, 02:03:02 PM »
Smoke and mirrors, all of it.

Davis will play. As will Whitfield. Coniglio a maybe IMO.

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Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
« Reply #49 on: September 25, 2019, 02:08:42 PM »
Hope they all play. Hope they have all their stars out there.

That is the challenge. beat their best and no excuses.

And taking three players in who have injury concerns could back fire.

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Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
« Reply #50 on: September 25, 2019, 02:16:02 PM »
Coniglio has been ruled out by GWS.

Source: SEN.

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Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
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Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
« Reply #52 on: September 25, 2019, 02:21:48 PM »
Well, we're missing Rance. Doubt they'd wanna play us with him in the side...

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Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
« Reply #53 on: September 25, 2019, 04:25:33 PM »
Part of me was hoping they'd play him. I'd say he'd have been every chance to do his knee like he did last time we played em.

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Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
« Reply #54 on: September 25, 2019, 07:41:36 PM »
Their club is in pretty good shape IMO with blokes like Coniglio as a leader.

Massively hard unselfish call by him.

I hope one day he gets to play in a premiership but it wasn’t going to be this year.

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Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
« Reply #55 on: September 25, 2019, 10:02:50 PM »
Their club is in pretty good shape IMO with blokes like Coniglio as a leader.

Massively hard unselfish call by him.

I hope one day he gets to play in a premiership but it wasn’t going to be this year.

For once I fully agree with you.

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Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
« Reply #56 on: September 25, 2019, 10:21:18 PM »
Legends jury: Can ‘will to win’ lift Giants to grand boilover?

Jon Anderson
Herald Sun
26 September 2019


To discover the key components of Saturday’s AFL Grand Final, we invited four men with 10 premierships between them to look at their respective areas of expertise.

And while the quartet — Chris Johnson, Cameron Ling, Simon Madden and Paul Salmon — have all tipped Richmond, each is giving the Giants a genuine chance.

Who does Matt de Boer tag?

Ling:
“Dusty can own a game so if you can reduce that influence, you may be able to sow a tiny bit of doubt. So Matt de Boer goes to him, full stop. If Dusty goes forward, then maybe de Boer rolls onto Dion Prestia at times although you have to be wary of overcooking de Boer for when Dusty comes back on the ball.”

Where can the Giants win it?


Ling: “I give them a chance because of what they’ve discovered in this finals series which is heart and soul, scrap and fight plus the will to win. When you combine that with the obvious skill and talent they have, then certainly they have a chance in a stoppage and contested-based game. I believe in the way they’re playing in this finals series. But I still can’t tip them.”

Where could GWS lose it?


Ling:
“They are going to have to maintain their way of playing for the entire game, because as soon as Richmond breaks it a little bit their way, it can break very badly for a 20-minute patch given their relentless swarming. Geelong found that out in the second half. And will the Giants’ sore bodies allow them to maintain the required pressure?”

How do the ruck contests pan out?

Madden: “Toby Nankervis was very influential for Richmond in their 2017 premiership (18 possessions, 28 hit-outs) but he isn’t in that form now due to a limited preparation. It comes down to hit-outs to advantage. You know with Nankervis that he won’t be intimidated by Shane Mumford. The reality is neither is in career-best form, so it comes down to who can find something extra on the day.”

Has Shane Mumford enough left in the tank?


Madden: “He’s been good rather than great. He still works really hard and I like the fact he likes to impose himself on the opposition. The difference is he isn’t opposed by Brodie Grundy this week, or even Stefan Martin for that matter. Richmond’s Ivan Soldo is the wild-card. I’m tipping Richmond due to their previous finals experience.”

Who has the better back six?

Johnson: “Richmond has an extremely well-oiled and ruthless defence, a back seven who hurt you hard through the corridor if you turn the ball over. They keep wanting to attack through the corridor and they know when to go and when not to go.”

How will the Tigers test the GWS defence?

Johnson: “Richmond will have learnt from the GWS-Lions game, when Brisbane came in high and long which played into the GWS hands. I think if it comes in fast and low, it could be a struggle for the GWS defence, and that’s how Richmond brings it in. I would love to see the Giants win their first flag but I think the Tigers have the experience and form.”

Is Tom Lynch the offensive difference?

Salmon: “The ball carriers see Tom Lynch first and he can attract it long which can cause more hurt. So much comes down to how Phil Davis plays on Lynch. And then you have Dustin Martin floating in. We wondered how the Richmond forward line would look with Lynch as distinct from 2017? It took a little while but is now just where they want it to be, with Jack Riewoldt playing the perfect secondary role.”

Where can the GWS forwards hurt the Tigers?

Salmon:
“In two games this year Jeremy Cameron has had 50 possessions and 20 shots on goal for 10 goals against the Tigers. And then you have a couple of 195cm-196cm blokes in Jeremy Finlayson and Harry Himmelberg who are extremely mobile. That will ensure the Tigers have to be more accountable. There’s every chance one will cause Richmond some pain and Himmelberg might be the sleeper. They are their weapon, three players who aren’t questioning their roles. My tip is Richmond by two or three goals.”

THE FINAL WORD

Jon Anderson:
There’s a line from Martin Scorsese’s 1995 movie classic Cas-ino, in which diminutive psychopath Nicky Santoro (played by Joe Pesci) observes: “It’s the dollars, always the dollars.” Swing forward to Saturday’s game and Santoro’s equivalent would surely observe: “It’s the supply, always the supply”. And the supply to forward-line superstars Tom Lynch and Jeremy Cameron comes from their respective midfields, so whoever wins that battle will win the game, simple as that. And guess what, GWS has the midfield resources to win that war.

GWS by 17 points.

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Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
« Reply #57 on: September 25, 2019, 10:24:10 PM »
But in true Melbourne fashion, it should be all clear at the ’G on Saturday.

”It should dry up for (the) Grand Final,” Mr Carlyon said.

“It will be a cold start to Grand Final day with an early morning temperature of 6C.

“It looks like a dry day in Melbourne on Saturday — fairly cool, slightly cloudy and warming up to a top of 16C.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/weather-to-hold-off-for-grand-final-blockbuster-parade-to-be-hit-by-rain/news-story/33dcd8423d0d3bd55ae9f98c6c8ab42d

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Tigers investment about to pay off: Alastair Lynch (Courier Mail)
« Reply #58 on: September 26, 2019, 01:56:31 AM »
Tigers investment about to pay off

Alastair Lynch
The Courier-Mail
26 September 2019


When GWS hung on to defeat Collingwood in their pulsating preliminary final to advance to their breakthrough grand final, the initial thoughts of many footy fans would have been — this is exactly what the AFL didn’t want.

There is no doubt a Richmond-Collingwood grand final match-up would have been one for the ages, not to mention the massive financial windfall two traditional Victorian clubs would deliver.

But it didn’t take long to realise GWS’ first appearance on the final Saturday in September has provided some legitimacy to the AFL’s bold expansion plans of 2011 and 2012, a move that still has scores of critics across the country.

Poor crowds in western Sydney, even when the Giants are going well, and the ongoing struggles of the Suns has made the league’s expansion plans an easy target for criticism, especially when nine years on the competition is still funding the experiment.

But Queenslanders will know from experience that even through Brisbane had played in multiple finals series in 1990s, it was the Lions’ premierships of the early 2000s that truly cemented the club here in the Sunshine State.

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Western Sydney is a vastly different environment in that doesn’t boast the numbers of expat Victorians that Queensland has, and there is a long way to go before the Giants can stand on their own two feet financially.

But a premiership will work wonders.

Expansion has always been about the long game. The Giants and Suns were never expected to instantly convert lifelong adult fans of the rugby codes to our game, but to win the hearts and minds of their kids.

If the Giants can take a premiership cup back to Sydney with them this weekend you could expect a huge boost to Auskick enrolments the following year.

Unfortunately, it would also increase the pressure on the Suns, who are a year older and had what was supposedly the easier task of gaining traction on the Gold Coast, which has a pretty strong history in our game and has had a monopoly on the QAFL premierships for years now.

However, GWS’ success this season and Brisbane’s for that matter, also provide proof of what can be achieved with the right decisions.

Which is why although I’m tipping a Richmond win on Saturday, part of me can’t help but hope for a Giants win.

Here’s where I think the game will be decided.

RICHMOND

HOW THEY WANT TO PLAY

They are the ultimate system-based side. Sides have found this year they have managed to gain the ascendancy in a key area of the game only to find the Tigers’ system grind them down. It happened to Brisbane twice. The Tigers will give you a chance but you won’t get two. Geelong found that in the preliminary final when they failed to make the most of their opportunities when momentum was in their favour in the second term. The Tigers don’t dominate the stoppages but they win it back across half back from opposition kicks better than anyone, then deploying what looks like a basketball three-man weave up the ground with handball before surging it into their attack where their big forwards always provide a contest.

X-FACTOR

It doesn’t really matter which one, because they are so interchangeable, but they need one of their big forwards to have a strong game. Tom Lynch was the difference in the preliminary final and I think he is the man. It is not a common occurrence for key forwards to be kicking big numbers of goals in a grand final but under the pressure only a premiership decider can bring, you need someone who can take a big contested mark to take the pressure off.

THE GAMBLE

Who comes in for Jack Graham? Jack Ross and Kamdyn McIntosh were rested from the VFL grand final signalling they are the two obvious candidates for selection with the seven-gamer Ross most likely after last playing in round 22. Then there is Marlion Pickett. Could the Tigers take the ultimate gamble and give the 27 year old mid-season draft pick-up an AFL debut in a grand final after being best on ground in the VFL last week?

WHO THEY MUST STOP

Toby Greene is the Giants most important player because he wins the ball, sets up so much of their offence and also kicks goals himself.

THEIR VULNERABILITY

GWS are one of the best clearance teams in the competition and the Tigers must be sure they don’t give them too many opportunities to use the ball well into their forward 50.


GWS GIANTS

HOW THEY WANT TO PLAY

They are so good at winning the footy at the source and that gives them the confidence to be more selective with their ball use moving forward. There has been a change during the finals to be prepared to use the ball slower and straighter out of their back half. Rather than the typical play on and switch that we’ve seen for a majority of the season.

Their kicks inside 50 will be critical. They need their class to stand up to the pressure of grand final day and I think they are capable of doing that. They are mostly elite kids who appear to have been built for this type of occasion. Along with the different defensive half ball movement the Giants have lifted their intensity at the ball and the opposition compared to late in the home and away season. They singled out Bontempelli and Neale in their first two finals and it worked. They may target Prestia this week.

X-FACTOR

Zac Williams was swung into the midfield with Whitfield and Greene out and starred. I think he has to stay there. He has that speed that can break a game open. GWS will win the footy but their ability to break away from stoppages will be important and Williams can be so damaging in that situation. People accept that Dustin Martin doesn’t defend well out of stoppages so that is an area GWS can potentially exploit.

THE GAMBLE

The doctor has a big day ahead of him. He has got to make calls on the availability of Lachie Whitfield coming off surgery to his appendix, and skipper Phil Davis who is also beaten up and was forced to play forward against the Pies. Can they carry them all into a grand final?

WHO THEY MUST STOP

Dustin Martin. He had a quiet start against Brisbane when he was well held in the midfield only to go forward and tear the game apart. Matt De Boer can do the job in the middle with his discipline to stick to his task and not ball watch but they have a headache when Martin goes forward.

THEIR VULNERABILITY

Their strength is the big marking forwards but if they are well held, it can become a major problem because the Tigers can surge so well via smaller rebounding defenders.

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Re: Richmond vs GWS @ the M.C.G. --- 2019 GRAND FINAL
« Reply #59 on: September 26, 2019, 11:25:45 AM »
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Phil Davis now fits into the serious question mark category. Probably the biggest footy grand final story so far today in my opinion. Sources are worried the pool session / back pain might be related to management of the calf too.


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