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Offline Tiger Khosh

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Gary Buckenara List Analysis
« on: October 28, 2019, 06:29:05 PM »
Did anyone see this article? I don’t have the link but based on what was copied onto reddit it goes like this:

“Richmond is a powerhouse both on and off the field, and the tigers are the team to beat in 2020 and for the foreseeable future given the strength and depth of talent on their list. While there are never any guarantees in footy and it only takes a slight drop in preparation or mindset to come back to the field, this team has the weapons to win multiple premierships over the next 3-5 years.”

LIST BREAKDOWN

A: Martin, Cotchin, Rance, Lynch, Riewoldt

B+: Grimes

B: Edwards, Astbury, Rioli, Nankervis, Pickett (on talent)

B-: Prestia, Houli, Lambert

C+: Vlastuin, Castagna, Short, Caddy, McIntosh, Broad, Soldo

C: Markov, Aarts

C-: Nil

Developing*: Higgins, Graham, Balta, Stack, Naish, RCD, Ross

Developing: Bolton, Chol, CCJ, Garthwaite, DES, Miller, English, Baker, Turner

Developing* refers to players 21 years or under with the potential to become A or B- grade players in the future.
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Re: Gary Buckenara List Analysis
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2019, 06:31:11 PM »
Imagine thinking Prestia was a B- player and even worse Vlastuin a C+ player  :help 
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Re: Gary Buckenara List Analysis
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2019, 09:00:16 PM »
Haven’t been Edwards biggest fan over the journey but a Bs a bit low
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Re: Gary Buckenara List Analysis
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2019, 09:31:51 PM »
Buckenare is bucken bucked
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Re: Gary Buckenara List Analysis
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2019, 09:45:25 PM »
Wow, that's an appalling summation, seriously lacking vitamin A and DHA (cognitive function)
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Re: Gary Buckenara List Analysis
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2019, 10:44:10 PM »
Quote from: taztiger4 on October 28, 2019, 09:31:51 PM
Buckenare is bucken bucked

The Bucken Buckenara is bucking bucked!
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“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: Gary Buckenara List Analysis
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2019, 10:57:34 PM »
I love Georgie more than most but Vlastuin is twice the player he is.
He should have been AA this year.

And if Edwards isn’t a B+ player or better of the AFL I’ll go it at tiggy.

And lastly Rioli isn’t anywhere near a B in the AFL.
Rioli better than Vlastuin- get a grip Bucky!
Try watching a game or two.
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Re: Gary Buckenara List Analysis
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2019, 08:44:15 AM »
Rioli is a b grade player. Has class. A fine goal in the grand final a beautiful underground gandball to Dusty where dusty kicks a goal. Daniel has class and thats why he is a B. Vlastuin is an A Grader.
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Re: Gary Buckenara List Analysis
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2019, 09:27:15 AM »
More to the point, how isn’t Dusty an A+?
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Re: Gary Buckenara List Analysis
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2019, 09:45:11 AM »
Quote from: big tone on October 28, 2019, 10:57:34 PM
I love Georgie more than most but Vlastuin is twice the player he is.
He should have been AA this year.

And if Edwards isn’t a B+ player or better of the AFL I’ll go it at tiggy.

And lastly Rioli isn’t anywhere near a B in the AFL.
Rioli better than Vlastuin- get a grip Bucky!
Try watching a game or two.
Agree with all of this.

Prestia's B- is the most galling for mine, he's comfortably a B+. Houli also too low based on the past season, but I don't see him replicating that in 2020.

Caddy should be at least one grade higher, possibly two.
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Re: Gary Buckenara List Analysis
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2019, 10:46:38 AM »
This is my summation

A+ Martin Lynch Rance Grimes

A:  Riewoldt Prestia Houli Vlastuin Edwards Cotchin(gets an A for leadership value)

B+:  Lambert Caddy

B:  Astbury, Rioli, Nankervis, Castagna, Broad

B-:  Pickett Graham Short Bolton

C+: McIntosh, Soldo

C: Markov, Aarts

C-: Nil

Developing*: Higgins, Balta, Stack, Naish, RCD, Ross

Developing: Chol, CCJ, Garthwaite, DES, Miller, English, Baker, Turner
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Re: Gary Buckenara List Analysis
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2019, 04:19:01 PM »
Quote from: pmac21 on October 29, 2019, 10:46:38 AM
This is my summation

A+ Martin Lynch Rance Grimes

A:  Riewoldt Prestia Houli Vlastuin Edwards Cotchin(gets an A for leadership value)

B+:  Lambert Caddy

B:  Astbury, Rioli, Nankervis, Castagna, Broad

B-:  Pickett Graham Short Bolton

C+: McIntosh, Soldo

C: Markov, Aarts

C-: Nil

Developing*: Higgins, Balta, Stack, Naish, RCD, Ross

Developing: Chol, CCJ, Garthwaite, DES, Miller, English, Baker, Turner

You can't really rate Aarts yet, he hasn't played.

Other than that, looks pretty accurate.
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Re: Gary Buckenara List Analysis
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2019, 05:41:53 PM »
F:Aarts  :shh
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Re: Gary Buckenara List Analysis
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2019, 10:40:24 PM »
Quote from: wayne on October 29, 2019, 04:19:01 PM
Quote from: pmac21 on October 29, 2019, 10:46:38 AM
This is my summation

A+ Martin Lynch Rance Grimes

A:  Riewoldt Prestia Houli Vlastuin Edwards Cotchin(gets an A for leadership value)

B+:  Lambert Caddy

B:  Astbury, Rioli, Nankervis, Castagna, Broad

B-:  Pickett Graham Short Bolton

C+: McIntosh, Soldo

C: Markov, Aarts

C-: Nil

Developing*: Higgins, Balta, Stack, Naish, RCD, Ross

Developing: Chol, CCJ, Garthwaite, DES, Miller, English, Baker, Turner

You can't really rate Aarts yet, he hasn't played.

Other than that, looks pretty accurate.

I’d say dusty and Rance deserve their own top tier of our list. Legit once in a generation players and shoe ins to be in our greatest ever side.
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Re: Gary Buckenara List Analysis
« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2019, 11:03:15 PM »
This is how I rate our list- and I have rated them compared to opposition players in their positions.

(And with some of the young ones, it’s how I rate them now from what I have seen at AFL level)


A grade- Dusty, Rance, Jack, Cotch, Grimes, Edwards, Vlastuin

B grade- Prestia, Lambert, Caddy, Stack

C grade- Astbury, George, Nank, Baker, Graham, Bolton, Broad, Short, McIntosh, Rioli, Houli, Higgins, Pickett

D grade- Soldo, Markov, Ross, Balta, CCJ, DES

E grade- Naish- need to see more

No good- Garthwaite
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