Noah Cumberland [merged]

[Broadsword]

The Richmond football club would never mismanage a player's development. It's true because it's true.

We'd never single out one player over all others for public criticism because we have an industry-leading culture. Therefore, if any player doesn't make it with us, it's their fault not ours.

We'd never mismanage a player's development. It's true because it's true.

[camboon]

LOL, I’m not sure you you understand the point or the irony , if you have to explain a basic point why bother.
You just keep telling yourself how right you are and some of us will ask why.🤡

[Tiger Khosh]

What exactly am I telling myself I’m right about here? I’m just bemused at the over the top criticism and defence that is being endlessly posted on this thread.

[camboon]

I believe it would have greater value to explain why he went from a player on the up with a great goal sense last year to our new scapegoat dud with no confidence without  complete victim blaming .
Could it be that the coaches didn’t manage his transition to offensive / defensive player from offensive player as well as they should have .It seems to be a pattern with our small forwards as they want them to be fully defensive where forwards are hard wired to kick goals and lose confidence when they don’t or get a possession

[Tiger Khosh]

That could 100% be it for sure.

Couldn’t it also just be that the kid is in poor form or that his form last year was an aberration? Let’s remember, he was playing for his AFL life last season having no contract for 2023 and beyond. Now that he got resigned for 2 more seasons, could he be less motivated? He wouldn’t be the first or last athlete that has happened to.

We’ve gone from the highest scoring side last season to a mid-low scoring side this season. I would think that this would naturally cause a forwards output to decrease and mess with his confidence.

I just don’t buy into the fact that Hardwick is some offensive/small-forward killer that has absolutely ruined Noah’s confidence nor do I believe he is a selfish dud player. Just don’t understand why it has to be so strongly one view or the other.

[Hard Roar Tiger]

I believe it would have greater value to explain why he went from a player on the up with a great goal sense last year to our new scapegoat dud with no confidence without  complete victim blaming .
Could it be that the coaches didn’t manage his transition to offensive / defensive player from offensive player as well as they should have .It seems to be a pattern with our small forwards as they want them to be fully defensive where forwards are hard wired to kick goals and lose confidence when they don’t or get a possession

He’s not a scapegoat, he’s just not playing that good.

[Hard Roar Tiger]

they wont ever do it to MRJ who i reckon has delivered nothing in the same amount of time. 

Cumberland has played more games than MRJ.

[camboon]

I’m not sure what you’re on about , maybe you can share you pearls of wisdom with someone else and stop stalking me!

[Hard Roar Tiger]

WTF are you talking about mate?
His numbers are horrible this year bar 2 qtrs of afl.
That also includes his reserves games.

Use facts to support whatever it is you are trying to say of STFU!

[camboon]

You are not my mate, and who made you captain of the world. SC.
You have no idea what I’m talking  about so wasted effort on you!

[Damo]

they wont ever do it to MRJ who i reckon has delivered nothing in the same amount of time. 

Cumberland has played more games than MRJ.

AFL games?
Surely not

[Hard Roar Tiger]

You are not my mate, and who made you captain of the world. SC.
You have no idea what I’m talking  about so wasted effort on you!

Amuse me by attempting to justify that statement - “what are you talking about”.

[camboon]

Why don’t you read what is already been said, if you still don’t get it then I’m not going to put the effort in

[Assange Tiger 😎]

WTF are you talking about mate?
His numbers are horrible this year bar 2 qtrs of afl.
That also includes his reserves games.

Use facts to support whatever it is you are trying to say of STFU!

he’s played how many VFL games? He had 20 and 4 in one of them, kicked 3 in another. Maybe his other games were poor but I don’t think his overall reserves stats would be ‘horrible’

TK has said it best. People are annoying each other here because there’s staunch defenders and people needlessly bagging the pee out of the kid with not many in the middle

[Tigeritis™©®]

Great opportunity for him to cement his place in this team.

Let hope he returns to his best and proves the doubters wrong.