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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1575 on: April 05, 2021, 02:20:30 PM »
Not sure if this was mentioned. It’s been brought up today that Hocking studied Richmond in the hub and then came the Man on the mark rule change.

So he obviously was teary after we tore the cats apart and went to school on changing our dominance.

There was a quote on the news outlet about it.If that is true that is mind blowing how we can change rules because of a certain teams success and style of game.He is pathetic as a administrator and not accountable.

Loser is just doing what he is told.  The lanky polo playing tossbag is pulling the strings.  He hates us because we are everything his snotty nosed white privileged upbringing detests.

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1576 on: April 05, 2021, 03:46:00 PM »
Yep - complete myth that it was Hawthorn's GF tactics caused that rule change...they started banging on about it straight after that Bowden match v Essendon.....and of course the first player pinged under the new rule..Jordan McMahon from Richmond... :shh

The 6-6-6 rule was designed to stop us as well- but then we got Lynch..... :shh :shh

Even Purple Parrot's campaign to downgrade our Ellis compo was AFL orchestrated - he writes for their website...said nothing the year before re: WC's compo for Lycett despite it being an identical situation....flogs saying we're AFL pets now have NFI...they've screwed us over for years going all way back to the Lockett deal.. hell going all the way back to the 70's when the VFL changed the recruiting zones in middle of our last dynasty... :shh :shh :shh

Spot on that flog Barrett was all over us and kept quiet on the deal you mentioned even the Motlop one cats got.Now we got Hocking like I said before how it was written in print a rule was introduced to combat us and studied is beyond belief you will never see that stuff from people running the games world wide.

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1577 on: April 05, 2021, 04:00:14 PM »
I'm ok with the new standing the mark rule, really, its about time that got fixed up.  I'm not too sure if it was designed to stop Cotchin (specifically) from moving laterally on the mark or not, I think he was one player out of hundreds doing it! 

What I am getting narky about (already) is how long it is taking the umpires to call play on when the kicker goes off the line!  Its only round 3 & already I can think of many times when the kicker has cribbed around laterally & then runs off leaving the man on the mark stranded until the umpire gets around to calling play on! 

Don't get me started on 'Buddy's arc' either!  It has always been tolerated but it has always been against the rules!  Its called 'his natural arc' because it is his typical kicking style, but he only does it because he gets a 10 metre advantage on the kick!  Of course he wants that longer kick, but now the new rule should mean that Buddy has to stay on the line too or be called to play on.  Buddy is not the only 'arcer' out there either, now the new rules have to cut both ways! 

If the umpires positioned themselves in line (behind the kicker) they would be more able to see the kicker shuffling off the line so they can call play on quicker.  If the umpires have the time to make sure the player is standing on precisely the right spot to man the mark then they have time to get behind the kicker too!
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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1578 on: April 05, 2021, 05:33:42 PM »


#FreeKickSydney :facepalm

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1579 on: April 05, 2021, 05:41:31 PM »
One of these shows up at footy matches and pointlessly flaps around to annoy everyone.





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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1580 on: April 06, 2021, 12:43:32 AM »
Not sure if this was mentioned. It’s been brought up today that Hocking studied Richmond in the hub and then came the Man on the mark rule change.

So he obviously was teary after we tore the cats apart and went to school on changing our dominance.

There was a quote on the news outlet about it.If that is true that is mind blowing how we can change rules because of a certain teams success and style of game.He is pathetic as a administrator and not accountable.

an article from a scott gullin bloke back in March. Cotch was the main culprit or beneficiary from standing the mark and gaining advantage.

does it surprise you given how much scott, hocking and cats in general hate us? Ben Dixon last night tried to draw a comparison to that rule change and the deliberate handball through for a behind change after the 08 grand final. I call garbage to that as once again that was a rule change was already in the pipeline after the bowden game.

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1581 on: April 06, 2021, 07:55:07 AM »
SHocking is a old campaigner.

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1582 on: April 06, 2021, 10:31:18 AM »
When Edwards got that 50 against him the was annoying.
The reason he moved was the player running past and the start of a feigned hand pass.
Is that what is part of the game/new rule.??

Once the player who has the kick does any sort of move surely that is an automatic play on??

Any comments??

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1583 on: April 06, 2021, 10:34:42 AM »
The stand rule is garbage, higher scoring does not necessarily mean better footy.  Watching teams just chip the ball around with no contested stuff I'd just boring. 

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1584 on: April 06, 2021, 10:55:43 AM »
When Edwards got that 50 against him the was annoying.
The reason he moved was the player running past and the start of a feigned hand pass.
Is that what is part of the game/new rule.??

Once the player who has the kick does any sort of move surely that is an automatic play on??

Any comments??

I agree. Once they move sideways it should be play on.

Sometimes our blokes get the mark and I feel like they are called to play on after 1.5 seconds without lateral movement. Almost like there is no mark allowed and it's just free play.

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1585 on: April 06, 2021, 11:34:22 AM »
The rule is a farce....it effectively leaves the defending side a player short, the umpires are calling play on way too late and it's not even being consistently enforced which is hardly surprising due to the inherently pedantic nature of it and at the very least the rule shouldn't apply when the mark is inside the forward 50 which is yet another one of it's apparently unforeseen yet obvious flaws..... :shh

AFL & the media are obsessed with high scoring but people will soon become bored with the game if every match is an uncontested touch footy shoot out or just an extended version of AFLX... :shh :shh
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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1586 on: April 06, 2021, 09:03:51 PM »
I like it. Footy is more like the 90’s with a lot of run and carry and goals.

If we could learn to get our big forwards to lead into space and if we could actually deliver the ball lace out then we would also be kicking 100+ points a game. It’s no use getting 60+ inside 50s if it’s coming straight back out 50 times a game.

Our pressure is down especially in our forward 50

Still a lot of work to do. This next month of games is a good test for us.

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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1587 on: April 06, 2021, 10:02:22 PM »
The only thing 90's about it was our performance.... :shh
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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1588 on: April 07, 2021, 04:03:58 PM »
Dimma gave the umps a subtle dig in his presser today. Said we'll "challenge" the umps on the shortness of the distance of kicks (that the Swans were doing).
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Re: State of Umpiring [merged]
« Reply #1589 on: April 09, 2021, 08:48:10 PM »
Maggots didn’t think we could win and let the first qtr go

Decided to give Port an edge in the second qtr