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Re: Can Richmond challenge again in 2022? [merged]
« Reply #375 on: August 07, 2022, 11:54:29 PM »
Should win our two comfortably. Don't deserve to make finals if we can't beat them.

Can comfortably see Carlton and Saints lose their last two.

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Re: Can Richmond challenge again in 2022? [merged]
« Reply #376 on: August 08, 2022, 05:44:11 AM »
Finals equation for all 10 contenders

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8. RICHMOND (11-8-1, 115.8%)

To play: Hawthorn at the MCG, Essendon at the MCG

Easiest path to top eight: Win both games

Best case: Finish 6th if they go 2-0 and Carlton goes 1-1 or worse and Fremantle goes 0-2

Worst case: Miss finals

Analysis:
It was a great weekend for the Tigers, who would need to fall back into their “how did they lose that?!?!” ways to miss the eight from here, in our view. As long as they win one of their next two they should play finals, since the Bulldogs would be eliminated and the Saints would need to finish 2-0 to pass them. Win both - and they’ll be favourites in both - and they can pass Carlton too. That scenario that sees them sixth is probably a bit too hard, because the Dockers would need to lose to the Eagles and Giants, and that means an interstate elimination final is on the cards. But that’s the cost of their bad losses.

Our prediction: Finish 7th, face Brisbane in an elimination final

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PREDICTED FINAL LADDER

1. Geelong Cats (18-4)
2. Sydney Swans (16-6)
3. Melbourne (16-6)
4. Collingwood (16-6)
5. Fremantle (15-6-1)
6. Brisbane Lions (15-7)
7. Richmond (13-8-1)
8. Western Bulldogs (12-10)
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9. Carlton (12-10)
10. St Kilda (11-11)
11. Gold Coast Suns (10-12)
12. Port Adelaide (9-13)
13. Hawthorn (8-14)
14. Essendon (8-14)
15. Adelaide Crows (8-14)
16. GWS Giants (6-16)
17. West Coast Eagles (2-20)
18. North Melbourne (2-20)

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https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-finals-2022-the-run-home-after-round-21-predicted-ladder-top-eight-news-predictor-what-contenders-need-to-play-finals/news-story/20c2807b895a007f58ab444f787ad9ad

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Re: Can Richmond challenge again in 2022? [merged]
« Reply #377 on: August 08, 2022, 02:24:07 PM »
Why would that game be at the gabba ?.

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« Reply #378 on: August 08, 2022, 02:30:16 PM »
whoever finishes higher gets a home final, unless its cats vrs a melbourne team  :lol

Should we play an interstate team in the second week its also going to be interstate. Only if they finish higher than us, which they most likely will.





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Re: Can Richmond challenge again in 2022? [merged]
« Reply #379 on: August 08, 2022, 02:40:13 PM »
Why would that game be at the gabba ?.

LOL . Why wouldnt it be?

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« Reply #380 on: August 08, 2022, 02:58:11 PM »
So interstate final v Brisbane then potentially interstate again v Sydney

Get through that then Pre Lim v Geelong before Melbourne in GF

Win all the way would be one of the greatest premierships ever

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« Reply #381 on: August 08, 2022, 03:11:58 PM »
I’m very happy with that pathway
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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« Reply #382 on: August 08, 2022, 03:29:17 PM »
I reckon we should beat Hawthorn and Essendon first.

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Re: Can Richmond challenge again in 2022? [merged]
« Reply #383 on: August 08, 2022, 03:45:19 PM »
Provided we win both of our final H/A games, I got (rigged  ;D ) from the ladder predictor (https://predictor.squiggle.com.au/):

1. Geelong       72
2. Sydney        64
3. Collingwood 64
4. Fremantle    62
5. Melbourne    60
6. Brisbane      60
7. Richmond    54
8. W.Bulldogs   48
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9. Carlton        48 
10. St Kilda     48


EF: Brisbane @ Gabba
SF: Collingwood @ MCG
PF: Geelong @ MCG
GF: Sydney @ MCG

So only one interstate trip.

I reckon we should beat Hawthorn and Essendon first.
Spot on. Need to get there first.
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Re: Can Richmond challenge again in 2022? [merged]
« Reply #384 on: August 08, 2022, 04:19:33 PM »
One game at a time the rest will take care of it's self.

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Re: Can Richmond challenge again in 2022? [merged]
« Reply #385 on: August 08, 2022, 04:34:02 PM »
Interesting stat on First Crack last night in terms of form against the top sides this year.

Quarters won/lost against the top 8: (ties not included)

                    W     L     Diff
Geelong        16   10     +6
Sydney         14     9     +5
Richmond     17   14      +3
Collingwood  15   12      +3
Melbourne    17   15      +2
Brisbane       12   14      -2
Bulldogs       19   23      -4
Carlton         12   20      -8
Fremantle     13   22      -9
St Kilda        14   26      -12

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Re: Can Richmond challenge again in 2022? [merged]
« Reply #386 on: August 08, 2022, 04:43:51 PM »
Should win our two comfortably. Don't deserve to make finals if we can't beat them.

Can comfortably see Carlton and Saints lose their last two.

Isn’t the whole ‘don’t deserve to play finals’ theory debunked after our loss to the kangas lol

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WHY IT WILL BE A CHALLENGE FOR “DANGEROUS” TIGERS TO DO “DAMAGE” IN FINALS

By Andrew Slevison
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8 August 2022


Can Richmond actually make an impact in this year’s finals series?

The Tigers have been spoken about as a team who might just be able to do some damage if they happen to make the top eight.

Damien Hardwick’s side managed to return to eighth spot with an impressive 38-point win over Port Adelaide in Adelaide on Saturday night.

The result came after the 10th-placed Western Bulldogs had been beaten by Fremantle and on the same night St Kilda, who were holding eighth, fell to Geelong.

With the Tigers now the keepers of their own destiny with two home and away fixtures remaining, the question was asked - Can they win the flag? (Provided they make the finals, of course).

Nathan Buckley and Garry Lyon discussed the Tigers on SEN Breakfast and what they may or may not be capable of.

Buckley believes the 2017, 2019 and 2020 premiers will make the eight given they play Hawthorn and Essendon in Round 22 and 23.

“I think of the balance of it now, they will get there,” Buckley said.

“Can they do any damage at all?”

While Lyon acknowledges how good the Tigers have been, he says injuries to Dylan Grimes and Nick Vlastuin, as well as the ongoing absence of Dustin Martin, will make it difficult for them to seriously contend.

He says while there are good signs through the form of Shai Bolton and Tom Lynch, overall it will be an extremely tricky task for Richmond to make a serious dent in the finals.

“I think they’ve been one of the teams of the last half-century, but I think it’s going to be a challenge for them,” Lyon said.

“You lose Grimes from that group and if Vlastuin doesn’t play, Martin’s out of the side, of course it’s going to test you.

“It’s tested to the fact that they can keep coming up and Bolton is stepping into Dustin’s shoes. Whenever they need a lift he’s able to give them something.

“Tom Lynch the last few weeks reminds you of how good a player he is.

“Of course they’re a dangerous, dangerous floater, but can they win it? I think that the injuries might just take a toll.”

Buckley likes what he sees of the regeneration on the run which is occurring under Hardwick, citing the impact of lesser known players such as Ben Miller, Tyler Sonsie, Jack Ross and Noah Cumberland, among others.

“What about some of these names - Miller, Sonsie, Ross, who has been a fringe player for a while, Cumberland, who has come in of late,” Buckley added.

“They’ve got a lot of young players who are coming in and playing roles nearly above and beyond their time.”

Lyon said: “It’s going to hold them in great stead beyond this year.”

Buckley continued, highlighting the absence of Kane Lambert, who along with superstar Martin, have helped take Richmond to the next level across the last handful of seasons.

“I love what Richmond have been able to do this year. They rewired early,” he said further.

“Lambert and Martin, that one-two punch, was as important as any one-two punch over the last five years. To win their flags, those guys were as pivotal as any.

“They’ve done really well to be in this position. I still think their best footy actually really challenges.

“It’s just whether they can do it for four quarters consistently enough against the best opposition.”

Lyon added: “I think that’s absolutely fair but can they win four finals and take them to a premiership?”

Buckley: “I think that’s a stretch but can they win a final or two?”

Lyon: “Yeah of course they could, given their pedigree and the players that they will have available.

“It’s what makes the anticipation of this finals series so real.”

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/08/08/why-it-will-be-a-challenge-for-dangerous-tigers-to-do-damage-in-finals/

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Re: Can Richmond challenge again in 2022? [merged]
« Reply #388 on: August 08, 2022, 11:52:18 PM »
whoever finishes higher gets a home final, unless its cats vrs a melbourne team  :lol

Should we play an interstate team in the second week its also going to be interstate. Only if they finish higher than us, which they most likely will.
The rule is "home state Final" & Cats ground isn't big enough to accommodate big games ala Finals.

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« Reply #389 on: August 08, 2022, 11:53:07 PM »
So interstate final v Brisbane then potentially interstate again v Sydney

Get through that then Pre Lim v Geelong before Melbourne in GF

Win all the way would be one of the greatest premierships ever
I'll enjoy watching all those games back many times over summer