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Re: Tim Taranto to Richmond thread [merged]
« Reply #45 on: September 03, 2022, 08:15:27 PM »
Happy to trade pick 12 and take 19 + 30 to the draft if we can

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Re: Tim Taranto to Richmond thread [merged]
« Reply #46 on: September 03, 2022, 09:28:51 PM »
Happy to trade pick 12 and take 19 + 30 to the draft if we can

Prestia was Prestia plus pick 24 for our first and a future 2nd.

So expecting something similar with Taranto

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Re: Tim Taranto to Richmond thread [merged]
« Reply #47 on: September 03, 2022, 09:39:06 PM »
Kane Cornes' reaction on twitter:

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May as well round it up to 10
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"You pay for a Mercedes but you get a Toyota."

@kanecornes' warning for clubs such as Collingwood, who have been linked to Dan McStay, about the AFL's 'contract con' phenomenon.

https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1554082827947352064
https://twitter.com/kanecornes/status/1565941440773238785

Won a BandF in their Grand Final year aged 20. Mmmm, not sure Kane-o
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: Tim Taranto to Richmond thread [merged]
« Reply #48 on: September 04, 2022, 06:03:59 AM »
Happy to trade pick 12 and take 19 + 30 to the draft if we can

Prestia was Prestia plus pick 24 for our first and a future 2nd.

So expecting something similar with Taranto
Ended up being Prestia & pick 24 for picks 6 & 38 (following year).

The draft points difference between 24 & 38 is 320 points. So it ended up Prestia for around pick 9-10.


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Re: Tim Taranto to Richmond thread [merged]
« Reply #49 on: September 04, 2022, 01:12:02 PM »
Happy to trade pick 12 and take 19 + 30 to the draft if we can

Prestia was Prestia plus pick 24 for our first and a future 2nd.

So expecting something similar with Taranto
Ended up being Prestia & pick 24 for picks 6 & 38 (following year).

The draft points difference between 24 & 38 is 320 points. So it ended up Prestia for around pick 9-10.



Obviously GCS were banking on us finishing in a similar spot, not winning the flag, so ultimately our second pick you'd think would have been around pick 24 as well the following year. Surely surprised many people that we won it all.

So granted GCS were betting on us being average again IMO we traded pick 6 because 24 was thought to be about what our 2nd would be worth in 2017.

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Re: Tim Taranto to Richmond thread [merged]
« Reply #50 on: September 04, 2022, 05:30:22 PM »
"I wouldn't be paying any midfielder that's not Dustin Martin, or in the absolute top echelon, 750k a year for seven years."

@kanecornes on the reported Tigers offer to Tim Taranto, as @barrettdamian gives us all the latest on the trade front.

Watch here: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1566242703486193666

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Re: Tim Taranto to Richmond thread [merged]
« Reply #51 on: September 04, 2022, 05:38:53 PM »
Cornes thought he was on an anti-Richmond roll today and came up with this beauty:

“He’s [Dunkley's] a better player than Tim Taranto, who’s got seven years at $750,000.”


https://twitter.com/1116sen/status/1566250889139986432


RICHMOND’S MEGA TARANTO OFFER QUESTIONED AS POWER MAY HAVE TO PAY UP FOR DUNKLEY

Lachlan Geleit
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4 September 2022


Clubs look set to pay top dollar for recruits this off-season as the market heats up for players seeking new homes.

According to the Herald Sun, one star that’s set for a payday at a new club is GWS’ Tim Taranto, with the midfielder set to request a trade to Richmond after being offered a deal worth $750,000 per season for seven years.

With Taranto’s deal set to become a benchmark, Kane Cornes questioned why that sort of money was offered as he doesn’t consider the 24-year-old in the “top echelon” of players at his position.

As other midfielders like Josh Dunkley and Tom Mitchell could also be on the move, Cornes pondered whether they’d now seek similar offers to Taranto’s.

“If you’re Josh Dunkley, you’re looking at what the other midfielders are getting,” Cornes said on Nine’s Sunday Footy Show.

“He’s a better player than Tim Taranto, who’s got seven years at $750,000 (a season).

“That’s the sort of money you’ve got to pay to get a player out of their club, it’s going to cost them a lot.

“I wouldn’t be paying any midfielder that’s not Dustin Martin or the absolute top echelon $750,000 a year for seven years.”

Dunkley in particular has been linked to a move to Port Adelaide, with club great Cornes revealing that the Power are definitely “keen” on acquiring his services.

In reference to the 25-year-old, Bulldogs coach Luke Beveridge says he “understands” if Dunkley sought a move if it meant he received a better financial opportunity.

“(Bulldogs List and Recruiting General Manager) Sam (Power) is talking to Josh's management and will continue to do that,” Beveridge said post the club’s Elimination Final loss to Fremantle.

“There are some unknowns. The free market as far as the player market gets heightened every year. The scope to move clubs, whether free agency or in contract is significant.

“We all have to manage our situation within the ceiling of the salary cap. We're desperate, we hope Josh is going to stay, but I can't tell you whether he is or whether he isn't.

“I can tell you absolutely that the relationships are really strong. If there is a reason to leave the club, it might be for opportunity and the short lifespan of an AFL footy, you have to make hay financially as much as you can, and we understand that.”

Like Taranto, Dunkley is now without a contract at his current club for 2023 and beyond.

The pair are not free agents and will need to request a trade to land at a rival club.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/09/04/richmonds-mega-taranto-offer-questioned-as-power-may-have-to-pay-up-for/

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Re: Tim Taranto to Richmond thread [merged]
« Reply #52 on: September 04, 2022, 06:30:48 PM »
Ah well Cornesy, if Dunkley is better, Poort better pay him 850k.  :lol
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Re: Tim Taranto to Richmond thread [merged]
« Reply #53 on: September 04, 2022, 08:37:48 PM »
Pretty sure the likes of Petracca and Oliver are on better coin for long contracts too.

Taranto will absolutely be worth it especially after the next EBA.

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Re: Tim Taranto to Richmond thread [merged]
« Reply #54 on: September 04, 2022, 10:49:26 PM »
Exactly Wayne. If he’s helping to scare off other suitors, well that suits us fine.
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: Tim Taranto to Richmond thread [merged]
« Reply #55 on: September 05, 2022, 04:33:42 PM »
What critics bashing Tigers’ Taranto offer have got wrong

The same pundits who bashed Richmond for trading for Dion Prestia have lined up again. Here is why the Tigers’ monster offer for Tim Taranto can pay off.

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5 September 2022


When you are in a street-fight with a dangerous foe it pays to strike at their most vulnerable areas.

For Greater Western Sydney, so desperate to keep their No. 2 overall pick in Tim Taranto, a monster offer from a rival club was always likely to pry him loose.

But for the Giants especially, the long-term nature of the seven-year deal Richmond has offered was always their version of getting a low blow that ends the fight.

GWS knows it is already saddled with a bunch of long-term deals to Josh Kelly (2029), Stephen Coniglio (2026) and Lachie Whitfield (2027) so could never risk that type of tenure, even for a player that loves the club.

So the Tigers will get their man and that deal, revealed by the Sunday Herald Sun, will also ward off Collingwood’s strong interest.

One of these days a seven-year deal will backfire spectacularly on a club, and it arguably already has given Collingwood is prepared to pay $300,000 of Brodie Grundy’s $1 million a year deal for the next five years.

But if some recency bias means Taranto has tumbled down the list of hot emerging mids, he should prove a spectacularly good addition to Richmond’s midfield.

This year everyone is wild about Josh Dunkley, who amassed 585 touches, 101 clearances and 18 goals in his brilliant season playing midfield and forward.

Taranto battled a grumbly back injury and concussion this year, but as recently as last season he amassed 637 possessions, kicked 13 goals, had 103 clearances and was awarded 15 Brownlow votes.

When played as a pure mid in 2019 he had 721 touches, averaged five clearances, still kicked 11 goals, was rated the Giants best grand final performer and won the best-and-fairest.

He has never been a great kick but playing as a mid forward this year he was elite for disposals, contested possessions and pressure and a surprising above average for inside-50 kicks.

The same critics who bashed Richmond for trading picks 6 for Dion Prestia and pick 24 (which was on-traded for dual premiership player Josh Caddy) have lined up to kick a seven-year deal.

It doesn’t make Richmond immune from future mistakes but look at their record.

The only players secured from other clubs on the entire list next year will be Tom Lynch, Toby Nankervis, Dion Prestia and Robbie Tarrant.

Carlton had 18 this year, Essendon and Geelong 10.

If they had drafted at pick six (it slid to pick 7) in the Prestia year their options were Jack Scrimshaw, Griffin Logue, Will Brodie and Jack Bowes.

The same year they used the Tyrone Vickery compo pick on a skinny kid called Shai Bolton.

They got Nankervis for pick 46, and he is now a triple premiership co-captain and only 28 years of age.

Lynch was a free agent who cost them millions but nothing from a trade perspective.

Richmond has always been fairly miserly with contract offers for its mid-tier players and if Lynch and Dustin Martin will be on seven figures next year surely Jack Riewoldt and Trent Cotchin will play for much less than 2022.

If this is a monster mistake then at least it is targeted and done with a 24-year-old inside beast with flawless character.

Even the last years of the seven-year deal will be fulfilled with the collective bargaining agreement having risen twice that time.

At least the Tigers know exactly what they want.

At Melbourne they seem to be fixing their forward needs by trading for Brodie Grundy when it would push Max Gawn out of his preferred position and into a role where he has kicked two goals in eight games.

Taranto has the traits and qualities that will help fill in the gaps for Richmond to play exactly how they want to in the next five years.

He might not be flashy enough to win the Brownlow Medal, but if Shai Bolton does next year in a Richmond team that returns to the top four, Taranto’s acquisition might have helped make it possible.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-2022-latest-trade-free-agency-and-contract-updates/news-story/2cbcf5e26fce931a5bab363774a3dd9f

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Re: Tim Taranto to Richmond thread [merged]
« Reply #56 on: September 05, 2022, 08:36:16 PM »
I like Taranto as a player always have. He will be what 25 next year? So has just entered his prime. Reckon people need to remember he had an injury interrupted year this year.

Imo he is tough  wins lots of contested ball lays tackles wins clearances and also spreads well on the outside.
Dunno what is not to like.
If we got him i would still like us to target a big mid in the ND and of course a key forward as well.
People may not like the idea but id say we will have to target a journeyman type of key fwd for next year. We cannot go into another season with just two afl ready key forwards and ageing ones at that if we are targeting another tilt. We must have an eye on what can go wrong.

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Re: Tim Taranto to Richmond thread [merged]
« Reply #57 on: September 09, 2022, 11:35:11 PM »
Naming the trade deal - Tim Taranto

Mitch Keating
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September 9, 2022


Destination: Richmond

As mentioned above, the Giants' demands for Taranto are sure to impact those of Hopper, with just how differently they rate the pair yet to be seen.

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TIM TARANTO (Midfield - GWS)
2022 SEASON AVG
25.4 Disposals
4.8 Tackles
3.8 Clearances

Pick 19 is rated as highly as a first-round pick, with the power of starting the second night of the National Draft a key pillar in the draft process. Add in Richmond's future first-round selection and the Giant will hold two very handy picks in return for the services of Taranto.

While not exactly matching the pair of first-round picks the Giants are understood to be keen on for Taranto, the deal is likely to please Jason McCartney and his men should they also see Hopper head to Punt Road for the aforementioned selections.

Trade package: Pick 19 + 2023 first-round pick

https://www.zerohanger.com/naming-the-trade-deals-for-12-of-afls-biggest-movers-in-2022-126675/7/

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Re: Tim Taranto to Richmond thread [merged]
« Reply #58 on: September 11, 2022, 01:29:28 PM »
I like Taranto as a player always have. He will be what 25 next year? So has just entered his prime. Reckon people need to remember he had an injury interrupted year this year.

Imo he is tough  wins lots of contested ball lays tackles wins clearances and also spreads well on the outside.
Dunno what is not to like.
If we got him i would still like us to target a big mid in the ND and of course a key forward as well.
People may not like the idea but id say we will have to target a journeyman type of key fwd for next year. We cannot go into another season with just two afl ready key forwards and ageing ones at that if we are targeting another tilt. We must have an eye on what can go wrong.


Claw, do you think RCD is a chance as a big bodied mid or he is just not up to it?

He has performed well consistently at VFL level But for some reason is not getting a game.
« Last Edit: September 12, 2022, 03:54:21 PM by MintOnLamb »

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Re: Tim Taranto to Richmond thread [merged]
« Reply #59 on: September 21, 2022, 04:22:33 AM »
Someone has gone early on Taranto's wikipedia page  :snidegrin.



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