List management: Keep, trade or delist?

[one-eyed]

Adam Cooney's (yeah I know) assessment of our list:

* Core group going forward (Bolton, Baker, D.Rioli, Taranto, Hopper) is still decent but none are key position players.

* Need specialist wingers who win plenty of the ball (25 disposals). Ross was okay tonight but McIntosh, while he runs and works hard, doesn't win enough footy.

* Replacements for Riewoldt and Grimes.

(* and a new coach).

[Diocletian]

Ross does well for an a mid paced on baller stuck out on the wing. Put a Burger Ring on it is right though -we need blokes that are more naturally suited to the role not raggedy makeshift types. Preferably with some genuine pace as well.

[the claw]

After the year well the last two yrs he has had id be tempted to tap Grimes on the shoulder.
Cotchin,Riewoldt, Tarrant and Castagna all likely gone.

Contracts aside there are ten you have to look seriously at delisting.
Miller, Nyuon, Colina, Mansell, MRJ, McIntosh, Ralphsmith, Green, Dow. Pickett  there may not be a choice no one says it but he has a court case coming. His form has been woeful and he is 32.

Trade prospects for me are Soldo, Short, Graham not that we will get a lot for them but they may help us get back into the draft.
Last one is i think Cumberland will ask for a trade as well.

Thats getting close to half the list that needs replacing and does not include other older players nearing the end.

Imo who ever takes over has to be a list builder and the expectations on how long before we get back to flag contention has to change.

Its been three years since our last flag and we continue to kid ourselves that we are in a flag window.

[FooffooValve]

Adam Cooney's (yeah I know) assessment of our list:

* Core group going forward (Bolton, Baker, D.Rioli, Taranto, Hopper) is still decent but none are key position players.

(* and a new coach).

If he'd included Balta and Gibcus in that core group (and why wouldn't you?), there would have been KPPs.

[one-eyed]

Every free agent — where is your club placed with its players

[/i]Jon Ralph
HeraldSun
August 21, 2023 [/i]

RICHMOND

Kamdyn McIntosh is technically a free agent, but has hit a games-based trigger so will be at Punt Rd in 2024.

Free agents Trent Cotchin and Jack Riewoldt just joined Robbie Tarrant in retirement, so $1 million or more of cap space will be freed up, although much of it will be swallowed up when Shai Bolton’s seven-figure deal kicks in next year.

Bigoa Nyuon is also a free agent after being delisted and relisted. He has played only one AFL game but after strong VFL form as a ruckman and defender he will be confident of another contract.

https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/trade-hq/wreck-it-ralph-every-free-agent-where-is-your-club-placed-with-its-players/news-story/d14a294df54e6326236b428df42232df

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ps. Out of contract:

Dow, Mansell, Ralphsmith.

Rookies: Bauer (expected to sign a two-year deal), Bradtke, Campbell, Colina*, Nyuon, Trezise.

We currently have 32 senior spots filled, 8 category A rookies and one category B* rookie.

http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=32133.msg728509#msg728509

[the claw]

Shopping list for me.

Two kpf - one mature one junior. Jack is gone and Bradtke while he has talent is a reach. prudent to think the worse in his case.

Two kpd - Tarrant retired Nyuon probably gone besides we have stopped playing him as a defender.

0ne possibly two Ruckman - Colina delist and we should  look to trade Soldo imo. Would like a mature ruck and one to develop along Ryans lines.

Four mids - Terribly depleted in this area.

three  wingers/Flankers - Would look at cutting all of McIntosh, Pickett, and Ralphsmith.

There are other list needs as well. Clearly we cannot do all of them in one go but with four retirements i hope we can at least turn over 9 players and start addressing some of the needs.

[Gracie]

Shopping list for me.

Two kpf - one mature one junior. Jack is gone and Bradtke while he has talent is a reach. prudent to think the worse in his case.

Two kpd - Tarrant retired Nyuon probably gone besides we have stopped playing him as a defender.

0ne possibly two Ruckman - Colina delist and we should  look to trade Soldo imo. Would like a mature ruck and one to develop along Ryans lines.

Four mids - Terribly depleted in this area.

three  wingers/Flankers - Would look at cutting all of McIntosh, Pickett, and Ralphsmith.

There are other list needs as well. Clearly we cannot do all of them in one go but with four retirements i hope we can at least turn over 9 players and start addressing some of the needs.

Your wish list 12 changes will not all happen this year. Will take at least two trade/draft periods to get it right.

Not sure why you have Colina in your hit list. He is a Cat B rookie and outside all main list management rules. If we cut him we don't have a position to fill unless we find someone else who qualifies as a Cat B

McIntosh will stay until we have some one else. Banks could be the one, which would put McIntosh up for trade at the end of his contract next year

The club will keep Pickett and get him to 100 games in 2024. You will see the benefit in 8 to 10 years when there are multiple Picketts running around in the senior boys and girls sides

[JP Tiger]

Shopping list for me.

Two kpf - one mature one junior. Jack is gone and Bradtke while he has talent is a reach. prudent to think the worse in his case.

Two kpd - Tarrant retired Nyuon probably gone besides we have stopped playing him as a defender.

0ne possibly two Ruckman - Colina delist and we should  look to trade Soldo imo. Would like a mature ruck and one to develop along Ryans lines.

Four mids - Terribly depleted in this area.

three  wingers/Flankers - Would look at cutting all of McIntosh, Pickett, and Ralphsmith.

... and a Partridge in a pear tree!   

All together now ...       

[Diocletian]

Dear Santa Claws,

I would like to swap half our list with GWS and the other half with Gold Coast + Gawn, Bont, N.Daicos, C.Curnow and three picks inside the top 10.

Cheers,

D. Lou Chanel

 

[Simonator]

I cant help but feel like the club has a few recruits up its sleeve.
I just hope we realise that its time to start cleaning out, not acquiring for an immediate crack at a flag.
We have so much exciting young talent to start building on, just need to keep acquiring the right pieces.

I want to see these guys moved on whether its via trade, delisting or retirement.

Pickett, Mcintosh, Grimes, Raplhsmith, Soldo, Colina, Broad.

Theres no way the club will get rid of all of them but for me we are ready to move on.

[WilliamPowell]

I cant help but feel like the club has a few recruits up its sleeve.
I just hope we realise that its time to start cleaning out, not acquiring for an immediate crack at a flag.
We have so much exciting young talent to start building on, just need to keep acquiring the right pieces.

I want to see these guys moved on whether its via trade, delisting or retirement.

Pickett, Mcintosh, Grimes, Raplhsmith, Soldo, Colina, Broad.

Theres no way the club will get rid of all of them but for me we are ready to move on.

Broad won't be going anywhere as he re-signed earlier this year

[Diocletian]

What we do in the trade & draft period will be a big indicator of the club's mentality. There is a slight whiff of overrating our list like we used to in the bad old days, hopefully the off -season will allay those fears but given match selections and some of the re-signings -not to mention references to 2016 from blokes like Jack, which may or may not be reflective of the club's general mindset - I'm not to sure....

[Francois Jackson]

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1015436/club-champions-to-benefit-from-flagged-veterans-list-change

[pmac21]

I dont mind a small step down the ladder to come up quickly.  Look at teams like Port, Magpies, they have a down year then rise quickly. 
I am hoping a new coach gives some of the players the kick up the arse they need to lift fitness, skills and most importantly agression at the footy and tackling.  This for me is where we have dropped off the most and it has shown. 
Sometimes you dont mind losing as long as the players give a decent crack and go hard. 

[one-eyed]

A survey sent to clubs last week put forward the possibility of a veterans list, which would allow clubs to have one veteran listed outside of the primary list.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1015436/club-champions-to-benefit-from-flagged-veterans-list-change