Keep, Trade, Retire or Delist?

[ajGreen]

Any further news regarding Young?

With Kossie and Blight gone id say Young is still a chance to stay simply because of numbers.

Lets just say this is the senior structure
#### - Balta - Trainor
#### - Miller - ####

The mirror image in the twos

#### - Young - Gray
#### - Gibcus - ####

Thats exactly what we need as far as depth and competition goes for spots. With talls gone it gives us some scope to address other areas that badly need fixing.

Reckon as many as5 OR  6 talls could go this off season.
Kossie, Young in a trade, Bauer, Blight, Colina. and it would help greatly correcting list balance.

Sounds like north have gone off him too preferring other options

[TigerLand]

If there is a club we can learn from building our list up, it's Hawthorn.

Like or hate it, their rebuild has been nothing short of impressive.

Lessons learnt in that they got it wrong in drafting in Omeara, Wingard and Mitchell for a quick tilt after their dynasty. Like or hate it, this model backs up the idea of shopping Hopper and Taranto around for younger players currency. Hawks window is now open again and Mitchell, Wingard and Omeara are all finished. Our next tilt is so unlikely to involve Hopper or Taranto, at least one of them should be shopped around, id take a high 2nd round pick for Hopper. We can keep Tim but I'd certainly take a decent package of picks or a decent young player swap for him.

[the claw]

Not a bad analogy at all.

The trick is not becoming devoid of experienced players all together. Another stumbling block for us is our mid tier are so ordinary.

[Francois Jackson]

W Day pick 13
watson pick 5
newcombe rookie
impey pick 33
hardwick 44

this club has always traded well. They lost buddy and many thought the world was going to end. Yet they won more flags without him.

[Andyy]

Newcombe is surely the best MSD to date

[Tiger Khosh]

Newcombe is surely the best MSD to date

Yeah but did he win a flag in his first game……..?

[Hard Roar Tiger]

If there is a club we can learn from building our list up, it's Hawthorn.

Like or hate it, their rebuild has been nothing short of impressive.

Lessons learnt in that they got it wrong in drafting in Omeara, Wingard and Mitchell for a quick tilt after their dynasty. Like or hate it, this model backs up the idea of shopping Hopper and Taranto around for younger players currency. Hawks window is now open again and Mitchell, Wingard and Omeara are all finished. Our next tilt is so unlikely to involve Hopper or Taranto, at least one of them should be shopped around, id take a high 2nd round pick for Hopper. We can keep Tim but I'd certainly take a decent package of picks or a decent young player swap for him.

Our model is different. 5 picks from 2021, 7 last year and 2 more this year - that’s 14 top 30 picks from the last 5 drafts. Hawks barely have anyone from the top 5 apart from the little flog.
I agree we can learn from them but I also think we can learn from what we did from 2004-2013 where we blended top end draft talent with rookie picks and smart trading to round out list needs. This one has a similar feel to it

[camboon]

That’s true , we didn’t have too much luck with the later draft picks but nailed some rookies in those years. Good research by our recruiters to find them.

[TigerLand]

If there is a club we can learn from building our list up, it's Hawthorn.

Like or hate it, their rebuild has been nothing short of impressive.

Lessons learnt in that they got it wrong in drafting in Omeara, Wingard and Mitchell for a quick tilt after their dynasty. Like or hate it, this model backs up the idea of shopping Hopper and Taranto around for younger players currency. Hawks window is now open again and Mitchell, Wingard and Omeara are all finished. Our next tilt is so unlikely to involve Hopper or Taranto, at least one of them should be shopped around, id take a high 2nd round pick for Hopper. We can keep Tim but I'd certainly take a decent package of picks or a decent young player swap for him.

Our model is different. 5 picks from 2021, 7 last year and 2 more this year - that’s 14 top 30 picks from the last 5 drafts. Hawks barely have anyone from the top 5 apart from the little flog.
I agree we can learn from them but I also think we can learn from what we did from 2004-2013 where we blended top end draft talent with rookie picks and smart trading to round out list needs. This one has a similar feel to it

Absolutely, the point was more that they've rebuilt quicker then many, if anyone back to a prelim from finishing top 4 in 2018 and then bottoming out. Since 2018 they traded back out O'Meara, Wingard and Mitchell to allow for younger crop to come in and develop. This it's worth exploring our equivalent trade ins of Hopper and Taranto.