without knowing the situation as far as what players are getting paid one angle is by signing white and a lot of others hurts our ability to go after a player like taylor adams.
signing players like white mcguane jackson grigg king griffiths edwards to multiple yr contracts is now in all likely hood kicking us in the arse. the talk is we cant resign martin and we cant offer blokes like adams and longer enough or match other clubs offers.
im wondering how that can be.
if this is correct the club sure as hell is getting something very wrong when it comes to list management and more specific contracts. none of those mentioned should be getting more than one yr contracts because of their erratic form from yr to yr.most of em should have been cut ages ago.
im waiting with bated breath to see who and how many we cut ive said openly that 8 to 10 should go including rookies. yet it seems we are slowly but surely tying every one up bar a few.further inhibiting our ability to go after quality and needed players.
it looks atm a lot like 95 and 01 where they thought they had the lists to become regular top 4 when the truth was we were nowhere near it.
if the club fails at this watershed moment we can all look forward to many yrs back in the wilderness.
i've also asked openly how you expect to relace 8-10 players in one hit and have a decent chance of actually getting upgrades?
and ive replied in detail. not my problem if you wish to stick your head in the sand or be stupid about it.
theres a fair few clubs who have already cut between 6 and 8 players i suppose your wondering how they are going to do it as well. and thats without lists being finalised.
4nd picks
one f/a
one psd
one delisted player from another club. thats 6 to 7 to the list proper depending on if we use pick 64.
3/4 rookie picks
Ah, no. last time i posed the question, i also asked you to take certain things into consideration, which was a mistake, as you then picked and twisted them, rambled endlessly and never gave the info i was after..
even now it was was like panning for gold, sifting through the irrelevant mindless crap to get to the answer, which i have edited as above.
so in essence we will either 2 3rd rounders or a 3rd and 4th, as we will not get much better for any trades.
as you said yourself, 3rd rounders go at around about 50% but my suspicion it is less.
one fa.granted thats reasonable.
one delisted player, yeah possible to get a short term upgrade such as chappy, but most delisted players will more be in the matt thomas mode though.
one PSD. well they are normally a longer shot than 3rd rounders, so the odds are getting longer.
and then 3-4 rookies.
well what are the odds of rookies making it? as they are basically left over after the ND and PSD, so now we are getting to the bottom the barrel, so they would have to be much less than 50%, which is why the club has gone down the path of mature discards, coz you get some certainity in having someone who can step straight in if injuries hit, albeit at an average level, with minimal cost. its like backing a short priced horse for a place rather than backing a long shot for a win.
so on average of the 8-10 you talk about we would be upgrading on 4-6 only, and only 2-3 of those would be stepping up in the short term.
but i can see how you find that appealing, as it would contribute to your wish to sliding back down the ladder.
oh dear it really is amusing to watch the contortions of thjose who just wont admit they are wrong. forever letting their dislike of others twist what they say.
its funny no opinion on the subject at all but real keen to drag those down that do have one.
4 nd picks son we will use em upgrade or not.
chapman jolly laidler all upgrades on those they replace.
mirra howson and cain all better skilled rookies than what we have now and they are ready to go.
like i said it aint hard a blind man could improve our list but keep the head in the sand its funny. we obviously have a premiership list with your type of thinking. i know lets just cut the bare minimum of 3 lets hang onto the duds because they are good blokes.
have a try for yourself it aint hard even you could come up with 9 or 10 better options than what we currently have. oh thats right your not here to put it out there your just here to criticise those who have opposing views.
fair dinkum i will never understand the love of duds and the need of people to want to keep so many of them who have no value what so ever. i will never ever understand why people want to sit on so many awful players rather than try something new.
you do realise al even if we cut 8 - 10 theres a shedload of other hacks on the list still for you to support.
you are fair dinkum off your tree.
You are either an A grade troll or an A grade moron, because one again your reply has nothing, I repeat nothing what so ever to do with I wrote.
How about you go back and get you state appointed carer to explain what i wrote and answer that rather go off on an tangent throwing abuse that is irrelevant to the post.
here i will highlight the part to concentrate on.
so in essence we will have either 2 3rd rounders or a 3rd and 4th, as we will not get much better for any trades.
as you said yourself, 3rd rounders go at around about 50% but my suspicion it is less.
one fa.granted thats reasonable.
one delisted player, yeah possible to get a short term upgrade such as chappy, but most delisted players will more be in the matt thomas mode though.
one PSD. well they are normally a longer shot than 3rd rounders, so the odds are getting longer.
and then 3-4 rookies.
well what are the odds of rookies making it? as they are basically left over after the ND and PSD, so now we are getting to the bottom the barrel, so they would have to be much less than 50%, which is why the club has gone down the path of mature discards, coz you get some certainity in having someone who can step straight in if injuries hit, albeit at an average level, with minimal cost. its like backing a short priced horse for a place rather than backing a long shot for a win.
so on average of the 8-10 you talk about we would be upgrading on 4-6 only, and only 2-3 of those would be stepping up in the short term.
Can you address this in a concise, logical manner?
