Richmond v Geelong NAB Cup game thread

[bg25]

People...it's only FEBRUARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't forget Carlton won this in 2005 and went on to the glorious lows of winning the wooden spoon.

[letsgetiton!]

Can tell you that losing becomes a habit

thats why th ebombers are getting good at it, even with a full stregnth team.

jack be serious, the tigers played well considering the lineup they had, no ruck structure, no fwd structure , and gaspar in defense!

btw, i was sitting right behind the tigers bench and terry was experimenting like you would not believe in this game, more changes than ever. the bench was busier than collins street!

terry used this game to experiment a few things, the cats went in full on.

the bombers went in full on and were beaten by the wooden spooners!!!!

[letsgetiton!]

I hate going to that "venue" it is a joke in itself  

I have to say the thing that disppointed me the most today and lets be honest there was a lot of things that could and did disappoint but the one thing that had me doing this   over and over again was our .....................

TACKLING - more to the point our inability to hold a Geelong bloke in a tackle.

With the exception of Foley, Tuck and to a lesser extent Raines, Polo and Brown - the opposition broke free from tiger tackles way way too easily. It was the one thing I've always thought we needed to improve over the summer but today there didn't seem to be any improvement at all   The geelong blokes looked massive next to us and that worries me too.

As for our skills - goodness, gracious me shocking

iirc krak had teh most tackles out there and missed nearly half the game

dont stress wp, terry used this game as an experiment was not serious at all.

[wayne]

Disgraceful display. Undisciplined in simply manning up an opponent and as for our tackling ... what tackling  .

Exactly!!!

What is the 'corral' crap they always do.... just tackle them, put some pressure on. You can't afford to give anyone a couple metres these days.

The defence also was ok, but under pressure from our midfield. We're bombing into our forward line from the centre circle and it gets swept out very easily, whereas because of our lack of midfield pressure, the cats kick it from 70 metres and put way too much pressure on Gas and Polak.

[letsgetiton!]

I never said that the NAB thing was a good idea, I personally think is terrible idea.
Reason being the most first year players cant handle there first pre-season anyway(Except Lids) and by round 15 they are spent. So why encourage them to push hard early, Flags arent won in Feb, usually September accordingly to Roos and Worsfold.

jack ur views about richmond are very very very negative, have been for quite a while now.

now just cos you think the nab15 was a bad idea does not mean they are.  i personally think it was a great idea, as a PT myself i can see why it was done, and it keeps competive sprit alive.

now paddy and sugar are not injured imo. terry said the nap cup is a no risk game. imo those injuries were "made up" so terry could give 2 others a run to see what they had for experimental purposes.

and btw, the wce train harder than anyone around , at anytime of yr and their intra club praccy match was as fierce as they come,

im not sure why (maybe i do) but it just seems that nothing positive about the tigers comes out of your mouth at all.

hey im negative at times re players myself (tiv gas etc) but u have it in for the club 100% .

no ur meant to know a fair bit about footy, that means you would have noticed and seen that geelong wanted it 100% but richmond and terry used teh game soley for experimental reasons to test out different structures.
tambling, deledio, foley , howat, etc etc in the first half were being rotaed benched shifted every 2 minutes. not one player in teh team was being settled into position.  the onle time in the game that terry left most players in their positions was teh last quarter and we won it easy, without a ruckman, without a good fullback, with a fwd structure.


look at the game for what it was, not an 4 pt season game.

terry is not the man who should be worried, SHEEDY is the one who should be stressing. the bombers all preseason have talked up how they are finals material, after the all stars game, all and sundry there were boasting about how far they can go!!!!well well well, sheedy is tosser not wallace. the  score flattered them but the blues showed them up easily . pagan has the wood over sheedy and sheedy is delusional.  lets face facts,  sheedy only has monfries and ryder to look fwd too, wheres terry has a busload full of talent to get us through the next 10 yrs

[Jackstar]

Take on board what you say X although I look at other clubs blooding new players, all the tiges dish up are the Tivs and Hydes etc who are hardly going to take us into the future.
I am really concerned in the direction the club is headed.
I watched Buddy Franklin last night, what a talent, wins games off his own boot. I look at the Richard Tambling, I think he is a great footballer although I dont beleive he will reach the heights of Buddy.
Geelong played young Selwood yesterday, he looks the goods, we play the same old , same old, eg Jackson,Hartigan,Hyde,Moore. Realistically, these players wouldnt get a game at other clubs.  You mentioned the Bombers, i seen a player called Davey and another one called Houli.
Young Davey is all class, his tackling is instict, Houli the same, didnt seem many tackles from the Tiges yesterday, did you ?  There was heaps of coralling though  ::)etc.
I really dont care if the tiges win or lose in a pre season comp, what concerns me is that they refuse to play young players, refuse to play rookies and refuse to experiment with other players as well. I noticed that all clubs did experiement with players and played young players over the weekend( Yes I have watched all games), Good example was Carlton., Waite at CHB etc Great move.
What is a real concern as well is that how on earth wasnt Cam Howat included on the senior list and goats like Jackson were given another year,  Cam Howat was great yesterday, same as he was for the last 5 rounds last year.  I must have been watching the wrong team for the last 5 games last year.
I said, its not about winning at this stage of the year, its about execcution and I am sorry to say I didnt see much yesterday.

[Jackstar]

Dont get me started.
Kickins were disgraceful.
Spotting up players 20 metres out.
No zones on opposition kickins, Noticed Richo STILL doesnt understand what a zone is, tries to run to an opposition player
Raines only player prepared to run and carry.
I leave it at that!

[torch]

we are still sh*t !

no improvement what-so-ever !

same old richmond, just different day !

our midfield was unaccountable ... don't pick up players when we lose the ball ... so geelong's midfield ran to create ... which we never do ...

just same old, same old ... we won the centre clearence ... but we just kick the ball ... no carry or tatics when we do get it in the middle ... because our midfeild don't run back or forward !

best player ... or the one who tried most was Howat ...

tambling ??? where was he ???

meyer hardly had a go ...

jackson is gone ... hartigan will follow ... moore is a waste of space ...

why didn't they play graham as the 2nd ruckman ???

so ... basically same old story ... another long year i feel ...

for us to be good ... we must beat teams like geelong ... but yesterday was very bad ...

 

[tiga]

Here's my 2 cents for what its worth (probably 2 cents)

The good, the bad and the ugly...

THE GOOD
Polak - was very servicable out there considering her was so often on his own. Got some good drive going out of the backline
Foley - tried hard all day. Showed some real strength in the middle and won his own ball.
Tuck - Was asked to do pretty much everything and he performed solidly. His fitness is outstanding.
Deledio - when pushed forward was one of the few players that actually led into space. Showed some blistering pace running through the middle on one occasion that even blurred the tv cameras.
Tiv - He did try hard all day and his disposal was pretty good along with a nice 9 pointer.I saw him slag off a team mate after he had to defend against 3 separate geelong players in a raid down the wing whilst there was a bunch of tiger players at CHB doing very little. Story of the day.
Howat - Tried all day and showed some good skills and composure.

THE BAD
Knobel - Great tap ruckman but thats it. No mobility or disposal skills whatsoever. An ideal mate for getting the attention of a Barman at a busy pub and hailing a cab afterwards.
Polo - was disappointed with his performance. looked like he was in a episode of lost. WTF???
Tambling - When is he going to learn how to pick a moving pill off the ground. Disposal was terrible. Needs to go to dung beetle school to learn how to keep the ball in front.
Gaspar - He really didn't handle the hands in the back rule well at all.
Krakouer - Bordering on ugly but saved by his attempt to kick a goal with Milburns head. Showed that he only had eyes for the ball.

THE UGLY
Jackson - Dud! This guy is supposed to be some super athelete. Looked like it was his first year in AFL.
Moore - No Moore!
Pettifer - Pulled out his best lead underwear for the occasion. Was as effective as the Melbourne rail system after that hoax SMS.
Hartigan - Absolutely terrible performance. Would have been dropped from Coburg on that effort.
Our tackling - Pathetic, Innefective weak!
The hands in the back rule - Anyone for netball??  CONTACT!!!
More Umpires - More whistles to speed the game up? Bin that stupid idea now. Someone was on the ganja when they came up with that one.
Hit the post rule - hey lets reward a mediocre kick that deserved one point by giving another chance to score 6.
Ottens looking like a star - He's still an overpaid dud, we just made him look good.
Who was on Gary Ablett - Well who was it?? All I could see around him was Oxygen and Carbon dioxide for most of the match. A new game to play at tiger training...."Where's Gary?"





 

[blaisee]

Dont get me started.
Kickins were disgraceful.
Spotting up players 20 metres out.
No zones on opposition kickins, Noticed Richo STILL doesnt understand what a zone is, tries to run to an opposition player
Raines only player prepared to run and carry.
I leave it at that!

jack, i love u and you are one of the reasons I come on this site. but mate, you are starting to sound like david clayton, a disgruntled ex employee. chill out brother its february.

And for the record, if howat was put on the list last year, the that would mean we would have to go through 2007 1 short due to cogs injury. Keeping him on the rookie list is good list management plain and simple.

[Jackstar]

Here's my 2 cents for what its worth (probably 2 cents)

The good, the bad and the ugly...

THE GOOD
Polak - was very servicable out there considering her was so often on his own. Got some good drive going out of the backline
Foley - tried hard all day. Showed some real strength in the middle and won his own ball.
Tuck - Was asked to do pretty much everything and he performed solidly. His fitness is outstanding.
Deledio - when pushed forward was one of the few players that actually led into space. Showed some blistering pace running through the middle on one occasion that even blurred the tv cameras.
Tiv - He did try hard all day and his disposal was pretty good along with a nice 9 pointer.I saw him slag off a team mate after he had to defend against 3 separate geelong players in a raid down the wing whilst there was a bunch of tiger players at CHB doing very little. Story of the day.
Howat - Tried all day and showed some good skills and composure.

THE BAD
Knobel - Great tap ruckman but thats it. No mobility or disposal skills whatsoever. An ideal mate for getting the attention of a Barman at a busy pub and hailing a cab afterwards.
Polo - was disappointed with his performance. looked like he was in a episode of lost. WTF???
Tambling - When is he going to learn how to pick a moving pill off the ground. Disposal was terrible. Needs to go to dung beetle school to learn how to keep the ball in front.
Gaspar - He really didn't handle the hands in the back rule well at all.
Krakouer - Bordering on ugly but saved by his attempt to kick a goal with Milburns head. Showed that he only had eyes for the ball.

THE UGLY
Jackson - Dud! This guy is supposed to be some super athelete. Looked like it was his first year in AFL.
Moore - No Moore!
Pettifer - Pulled out his best lead underwear for the occasion. Was as effective as the Melbourne rail system after that hoax SMS.
Hartigan - Absolutely terrible performance. Would have been dropped from Coburg on that effort.
Our tackling - Pathetic, Innefective weak!
The hands in the back rule - Anyone for netball??  CONTACT!!!
More Umpires - More whistles to speed the game up? Bin that stupid idea now. Someone was on the ganja when they came up with that one.
Hit the post rule - hey lets reward a mediocre kick that deserved one point by giving another chance to score 6.
Ottens looking like a star - He's still an overpaid dud, we just made him look good.
Who was on Gary Ablett - Well who was it?? All I could see around him was Oxygen and Carbon dioxide for most of the match. A new game to play at tiger training...."Where's Gary?"





 

 

[letsgetiton!]

FFS! ITS ONLY FEB

DO SOME OF YOU GUYS ACTUALLY THINK WE TOOK THAT GAME SERIOUSLY


we won , why did we win , because with no real structure and just experimentation, we didnt get thumped by 100+, the cats should be ashamed of themselves.

otto was good but not that gr8, 75% of his goals came from that dodgy free kick rule

and now what happens


we play in canberra and not darwin!!!! we win the cats lose

this comp is not it all and end all

[tiga]

the media are fos
mt ur correct
polly was by far our best defender, joel may have had more touches but polak did really well considering he was on his own down there

GASPAR GIVE UP!

TIV HIT UR TARGETS!

PETTS, STOP BEING A LAZY B ASTARD

MEYER, GO HOME YOUR NOT INTERESTED!

HARTIGAN, YOUR A HACK , BREAK YOUR FOOT AGAIN!


considering we had no ruck or fwdline structure , i think we did ok

You're right X....It is only February. I just wish you'd make you're mind up.

[WilliamPowell]

Here's my 2 cents for what its worth (probably 2 cents)

The good, the bad and the ugly...

I reckon it's worth alot more than 2 cents tiga 

 

[wayne]

People...it's only FEBRUARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't forget Carlton won this in 2005 and went on to the glorious lows of winning the wooden spoon.

Yeah it's only February, but you think they could have tried to 'sell' some memberships at least?

We lost, but there were bad signs, a loss with good signs would have been a lot more beneficial.