Jack Riewoldt - Triple Coleman medallist [merged]

[MintOnLamb]

I get why they have experimented with him up the ground, but all things considered, I think the team benefits most from having him close to goal. It's where he is most damaging and creative. He can still create goals for teammates from that position.

Steady on Willy, if we put him there and kick goals then maybe we will win games. I think Hardwick and the brains trust will have to think this one over as it seems rather radical?

[Penelope]

I get why they have experimented with him up the ground, but all things considered, I think the team benefits most from having him close to goal. It's where he is most damaging and creative. He can still create goals for teammates from that position. 

not as many though.

no tall in the side can create opportunities for others like he can.
blokes than do not much more than mark and kick straight from set shots can benefit from having a player like jack further up the ground, but cant do the same as he can further up.
Its nearly impossible to double team a mobile hard working forward.
it pee easy to do so one that you just plonk in the goal square.

[Chuck17]

Yes lets bring in the days of riewoldt standing in the square whilst three defenders climb all over him

[YellowandBlackBlood]

Yes lets bring in the days of riewoldt standing in the square whilst three defenders climb all over him

Yes. 

This time we will plan to use two unmanned forwards left by the other two triple teaming Jack! Great idea Chucky!

Jack not only kicks goals but creates goals for others. Putting him deep forward is much better all round. We scored best when he was there. Our scoring dried up when he played way up the ground. Guys like Rioli, Bolton and even Lloyd will benefit from his smarts.

[Willy]

Yes lets bring in the days of riewoldt standing in the square whilst three defenders climb all over him

He is tripple teamed because he is bloody dangerous down there. And when that happens it frees up the players around him. Not a bad way of creating goals for teammates if that's what Dimma wants.

Or should we bench him for the whole game to ensure that he doesn't have a defender on him?

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Yes lets bring in the days of riewoldt standing in the square whilst three defenders climb all over him

He is tripple teamed because he is bloody dangerous down there. And when that happens it frees up the players around him. Not a bad way of creating goals for teammates if that's what Dimma wants.

Or should we bench him for the whole game to ensure that he doesn't have a defender on him?

He may get triple teamed but I don't see any damaging stats from the two, free defenders when he does

[YellowandBlackBlood]

Yes lets bring in the days of riewoldt standing in the square whilst three defenders climb all over him

He is tripple teamed because he is bloody dangerous down there. And when that happens it frees up the players around him. Not a bad way of creating goals for teammates if that's what Dimma wants.

Or should we bench him for the whole game to ensure that he doesn't have a defender on him?

He may get triple teamed but I don't see any damaging stats from the two, free defenders when he does

You mean forwards I assume.

[Willy]

Reckon opposition coaches like seeing Jack up the ground.

[Hard Roar Tiger]

I get why they have experimented with him up the ground, but all things considered, I think the team benefits most from having him close to goal. It's where he is most damaging and creative. He can still create goals for teammates from that position. 

not as many though.

no tall in the side can create opportunities for others like he can.
blokes than do not much more than mark and kick straight from set shots can benefit from having a player like jack further up the ground, but cant do the same as he can further up.
Its nearly impossible to double team a mobile hard working forward.
it pee easy to do so one that you just plonk in the goal square.

This post. Jack is a gun up the field. Combine his stats with goal assists and remember his 2016 was hampered from his dodgy hand which impacted his goal kicking. What we need is big, stonking forward in the goal square who can bring it to ground for the smalls. Jack is far more useful actually getting the pill.

[Penelope]

Yes lets bring in the days of riewoldt standing in the square whilst three defenders climb all over him

Yes. 

This time we will plan to use two unmanned forwards left by the other two triple teaming Jack! Great idea Chucky!

Jack not only kicks goals but creates goals for others. Putting him deep forward is much better all round. We scored best when he was there. Our scoring dried up when he played way up the ground. Guys like Rioli, Bolton and even Lloyd will benefit from his smarts.

really? what do you base this on?

[YellowandBlackBlood]

Yes lets bring in the days of riewoldt standing in the square whilst three defenders climb all over him

Yes. 

This time we will plan to use two unmanned forwards left by the other two triple teaming Jack! Great idea Chucky!

Jack not only kicks goals but creates goals for others. Putting him deep forward is much better all round. We scored best when he was there. Our scoring dried up when he played way up the ground. Guys like Rioli, Bolton and even Lloyd will benefit from his smarts.

really? what do you base this on?

Richmond 2016 Points For:  1713   (finished 13th)
Richmond 2015 Points For:  2006   (finished 5th)
Richmond 2011 Points For:  2069   (finished 12th)
Richmond 2012 Points For:  2169   (finished 12th)

So EVEN when we had a much better year in 2015 we scored more points in our rebuilding years with Jack closer to goal. When we had a similar year results wise to the rebuilding years in 2016, we scored MUCH LESS with Jack further up the field.

So there are the FACTS laid squarely in front of the doubting Thomases!!!!!

[(•))(©™]

Yes lets bring in the days of riewoldt standing in the square whilst three defenders climb all over him

He is tripple teamed because he is bloody dangerous down there. And when that happens it frees up the players around him. Not a bad way of creating goals for teammates if that's what Dimma wants.

Or should we bench him for the whole game to ensure that he doesn't have a defender on him?

He may get triple teamed but I don't see any damaging stats from the two, free defenders when he does

You mean forwards I assume.

Sorry. Confusing. Yes.

[Chuck17]

Yes lets bring in the days of riewoldt standing in the square whilst three defenders climb all over him

Yes. 

This time we will plan to use two unmanned forwards left by the other two triple teaming Jack! Great idea Chucky!

Jack not only kicks goals but creates goals for others. Putting him deep forward is much better all round. We scored best when he was there. Our scoring dried up when he played way up the ground. Guys like Rioli, Bolton and even Lloyd will benefit from his smarts.

really? what do you base this on?

Richmond 2016 Points For:  1713   (finished 13th)
Richmond 2015 Points For:  2006   (finished 5th)
Richmond 2011 Points For:  2069   (finished 12th)
Richmond 2012 Points For:  2169   (finished 12th)

So EVEN when we had a much better year in 2015 we scored more points in our rebuilding years with Jack closer to goal. When we had a similar year results wise to the rebuilding years in 2016, we scored MUCH LESS with Jack further up the field.

So there are the FACTS laid squarely in front of the doubting Thomases!!!!!

So you are saying as a team we had our best year when Jack played further upfield.  Thanks for confirming our point.

[YellowandBlackBlood]

Yes lets bring in the days of riewoldt standing in the square whilst three defenders climb all over him

Yes. 

This time we will plan to use two unmanned forwards left by the other two triple teaming Jack! Great idea Chucky!

Jack not only kicks goals but creates goals for others. Putting him deep forward is much better all round. We scored best when he was there. Our scoring dried up when he played way up the ground. Guys like Rioli, Bolton and even Lloyd will benefit from his smarts.

really? what do you base this on?

Richmond 2016 Points For:  1713   (finished 13th)
Richmond 2015 Points For:  2006   (finished 5th)
Richmond 2011 Points For:  2069   (finished 12th)
Richmond 2012 Points For:  2169   (finished 12th)

So EVEN when we had a much better year in 2015 we scored more points in our rebuilding years with Jack closer to goal. When we had a similar year results wise to the rebuilding years in 2016, we scored MUCH LESS with Jack further up the field.

So there are the FACTS laid squarely in front of the doubting Thomases!!!!!

So you are saying as a team we had our best year when Jack played further upfield.  Thanks for confirming our point.

We had a better year because we defended better. Pretty obvious I would have thought.
This discussion was about scoring, which we've had more trouble doing when our best forward hasn't been played forward.

I know it's hard to accept the facts because you argued otherwise, but they are there as proof without twisting them at all.

And further to the point we had our worst year when Jack played even further up the ground!!!!!

[YellowandBlackBlood]

That's called check mate!