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Re: Alex Rance can lay claim to being the best key defender in the AFL (Age)
« Reply #1650 on: April 22, 2015, 05:27:15 PM »
I think he's still behind Harry Taylor as Taylor has been very good for quite some time now. I don't think Rance is far behind though.

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Re: Alex Rance can lay claim to being the best key defender in the AFL (Age)
« Reply #1651 on: April 22, 2015, 07:10:46 PM »
Notable that the figures for Tom McDonald are better than Rance for each category except disposal efficiency.

Still at least we had DEAN McDonald for six months as our pick before Tom.

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Re: Alex Rance can lay claim to being the best key defender in the AFL (Age)
« Reply #1652 on: April 22, 2015, 07:15:36 PM »
Tom Macdonald is a dud. Make no mistake :shh
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Alex Rance’s looming free agency could burn Richmond (Courier Mail)
« Reply #1653 on: April 26, 2015, 12:07:15 PM »
Alex Rance’s looming free agency could burn Richmond, writes Alastair Lynch

    Alastair Lynch
    The Courier-Mail
    April 26, 2015


THE Brisbane Lions’ interest in Richmond’s All Australian defender Alex Rance is perfectly understandable.

As is the frustration the Tigers must feel to see a bloke they have invested eight years in, developing into one of the game’s best key position players, able to potentially walk out the door.

Rance is classified as an unrestricted free agent, having given eight years of service to the club and not being in the top 25 per cent of earners at Punt Road.

As an unrestricted free agent, the Lions – or the Dockers from his home state of WA – can come along with a big cash offer without Richmond having the right to match it and retain his services.

Basing free agency on whether a player is in the top nine earners can be misleading.

While it is not the case with Rance, a club’s stage of list development often means contracts for big-name players are front-ended for salary cap balancing reasons.

James Frawley was on such a contract and therefore, in the final year of his deal, not in the top 25 per cent at Melbourne. So as an unrestricted free agent, when chased aggressively by Hawthorn, the Demons did not have the automatic option to match the offer.

Frawley duly walked, from one of the weakest teams in the comp to land in the backline of the best.

If the salary of a player is taken into account, it must be averaged over the term of the contract to help protect the bottom clubs.

Let’s make another thing clear – free agency is not about equalisation.

It is a very different conversation, and is something the players asked for after accepting what is essentially a restraint of trade with the draft and salary cap.

As a trade off, players want, and deserve, a way to get to the club of their choice at the end of their career.

This issue will be on agenda for the next collective bargaining agreement, when the players’ association will seek to reduce free agency years.

Regardless, it is a huge challenge for battling clubs to attract free agents. To make someone see your club as a destination of choice, especially when it is not your home state nor in a premiership window.

For the Lions, coach Justin Leppitsch will be the key.

Leppa worked closely with Rance in his role as a defensive coach at Richmond.

As one of the great centre half-backs of modern era, Leppa has helped Rance grow into one of the AFL’s elite defenders.

Putting aside Friday night, when imposing Melbourne youngster Jesse Hogan actually outbodied him a few times, Rance is rarely beaten in a one-on-one contest.

His game has gone to a new level in the past two years.

To seal the deal, Leppitsch must show him the Lions’ blueprint for success.

He must show that the foundations of the rebuild are in place on and off field, and to show Rance he can greatly assist the re-emergence of the club as a force.

The blueprint must also have success at the end – it’s difficult to attract a player of such quality for money alone, particularly when he has spent his career at a rebuilding Richmond with still no ultimate success in sight.

As for the here and now, Leppitsch would obviously be very frustrated at where his Lions are at.

They have, potentially, an elite midfield but it is not resembling that at minute.

The exciting overlap run and scoring potency has thus far been missing.

We know patience is needed with the key position guys, and there’s been bad luck with injuries to key players Pearce Hanley, Tom Rockliff and Daniel Merrett.

But to be any show against the West Coast today, the Lions cannot let the Eagles have the same amount of space and quality inside-50 entries as they allowed Richmond last week.

The Tigers had a staggering 23 inside-50 marks and you simply can’t just blame the defence when so much quality ball is getting in there.

The Eagles boast potent forwards that will tear apart a young defence unless there’s a dramatic turnaround in the pressure applied in the middle.

As a player, Leppa was fiercely competitive with a unique sense of humour – a sense of humour no doubt being tested at the moment.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/alex-rances-looming-free-agency-could-burn-richmond-writes-alastair-lynch/story-e6frf3e3-1227321035490

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Re: Alex Rance’s looming free agency could burn Richmond (Courier Mail)
« Reply #1654 on: April 26, 2015, 02:40:35 PM »
Rumour and this isn't just me taking the piddle ... but watch out for Geelong when It comes to Rance. If he goes anywhere other than Richmond, I reckon Geelong will be the destination.

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Re: Alex Rance’s looming free agency could burn Richmond (Courier Mail)
« Reply #1655 on: April 26, 2015, 04:43:58 PM »
Should offer himself to Hawthorn.

Backline of Rance, Frawley, Rivers, Gibson, Birchall etc...

Imagine the rebound. Birchall one flank, Rance the other, Frawley 1st KPD, Gibson 3rd up, Rivers handy too.

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Re: Alex Rance’s looming free agency could burn Richmond (Courier Mail)
« Reply #1656 on: April 26, 2015, 04:49:01 PM »
If Hawthorn got him they could afford to take the pee and play him in the midfield....
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Re: Alex Rance’s looming free agency could burn Richmond (Courier Mail)
« Reply #1657 on: April 26, 2015, 04:59:44 PM »
TBH I would consider playing him in the forward line.

Chaplin, Astbury, Elton/Grimes (depending on opponent), Houli, Morris and Vlastuin in the back 6.

Rance, Jack, Griff, Edwards, Short, Gordon/Lids forward.


Rance can take plenty of marks, competes like his life depends on it usually, and has improved his kicking a lot.

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Re: Alex Rance’s looming free agency could burn Richmond (Courier Mail)
« Reply #1658 on: April 26, 2015, 05:14:36 PM »
 Clubs should be fairly compensated by the club the player is going to
The AFL is just making it so the strong clubs win at the expense of clubs trying to rebuild

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Re: Alex Rance’s looming free agency could burn Richmond (Courier Mail)
« Reply #1659 on: April 26, 2015, 06:58:35 PM »
Not a money decision, will be RFC or nothing,
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Re: Alex Rance’s looming free agency could burn Richmond (Courier Mail)
« Reply #1660 on: April 26, 2015, 08:06:24 PM »
Rance not being in the top 9 earners is everything to do with front loaded contracts, we have front loaded a number of contracts to enable us to have a real crack at FA over the next 2 years.  P.A. Rance isn't outside our top 9.

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Re: Alex Rance’s looming free agency could burn Richmond (Courier Mail)
« Reply #1661 on: April 26, 2015, 08:16:00 PM »
Should offer himself to Hawthorn.

Backline of Rance, Frawley, Rivers, Gibson, Birchall etc...

Imagine the rebound. Birchall one flank, Rance the other, Frawley 1st KPD, Gibson 3rd up, Rivers handy too.

Rivers?

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Re: Alex Rance’s looming free agency could burn Richmond (Courier Mail)
« Reply #1662 on: April 26, 2015, 11:09:20 PM »
Rance not being in the top 9 earners is everything to do with front loaded contracts, we have front loaded a number of contracts to enable us to have a real crack at FA over the next 2 years.  P.A. Rance isn't outside our top 9.

Whether he stays or not the club needs to use that war chest for FA otherwise we may need not a full but a major renovation in the next few.

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Why Richmond's Alex Rance may walk away ..... (Age)
« Reply #1663 on: April 28, 2015, 11:54:52 PM »
Why Richmond's Alex Rance may walk away

Caroline Wilson
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April 29, 2015



The highly sensitive negotiations between Alex Rance and Richmond will begin this week with the club looking to manage the rare scenario of a star player in his prime seriously considering retirement from the game.

While the prevailing view suggests that the 25-year-old All-Australian defender is unlikely to walk away from a highly lucrative, potentially long-term pay packet, the truth is that Rance has been torn between football and an alternative life.

His manager Tom Petroro was scheduled to meet his client on Wednesday with a view to the pair holding talks with Tigers football boss Daniel Richardson before Saturday's clash with Geelong. This follows the observation by club chief Brendon Gale that the Tigers would need to know Rance's position "sooner rather than later" and that Richmond would make every effort to accommodate the player's needs.

Rance's talent, age and the promise of an estimated $700,000-a-year contract from a club pushing for finals success has demanded intense speculation given the reality that no modern footballer has shunned the AFL by choice so early in his career. This is despite concerns from players generally regarding the intensity of life as a modern, elite player.

The chairman of the AFL Commission, Mike Fitzpatrick, a Carlton premiership captain who retired in 1983, admitted that he would not have enjoyed life as a modern footballer. Last month Matthew Lloyd wrote in The Sunday Age that football was no longer as enjoyable for AFL players, and few he had spoken to loved the game in the manner of earlier generations.

The AFL Players Association harbours  concerns about the growing demands from clubs through increasingly heavy training loads, gruelling pre-seasons and a weekly calendar punctuated more frequently each season by meetings. This on top of the intensive public scrutiny further impacted by the growth of social media.

And yet few footballers as talented as Rance have come this close to walking away.

Rance and his wife Georgia are Jehovah's Witnesses, a religion embraced by his family after being introduced by Rance's mother Di during the latter days of father Murray's football career. The former Swan Districts, Footscray and West Coast player who captained the Eagles in 1989, Murray Rance told Fairfax Media he had nothing to add to his son's situation except to say: "I just want to be his dad and support him."

The elder Rances, true to their restorationist Christian religion, regularly spend time helping others learn about the Bible and, in the words of the religion's official raison d'etre, God's Kingdom. They have reportedly stuck true to their desire to remain supportive parents although there is no suggestion they do not want Alex to continue his football career – a career they remain strongly behind.

Nor is there any suggestion that Rance's religion is the sole reason for him to seek with Georgia a  different life or that they plan to dedicate their lives to their religion,  although clearly their values are influenced by their beliefs. It is true that his wife would support Rance should he choose to quit the AFL.

Friends describe Rance as a gentle soul of strong and consistent values who stood up to a homophobic supporter during Richmond's recent clash with the Western Bulldogs and whose naivete saw him become the victim of a stalker who harassed the player and his sister Ally and who was later jailed for the crime.

Despite speculation surrounding offers from rival clubs and the lure of free agency given Rance's status in Richmond's playing pecking order, neither of those appear to be influencing the player's current quandary. The view of both club and management appears aligned that Rance's last deal was signed almost three years ago and that his form then was commensurate with the contract. It is a contract the Tigers have been working to override to no avail since late 2014.

Football boss Richardson has repeatedly said he did not believe his star defender was entertaining offers from other clubs, although Rance's decision to put off contract talks led him to believe that something deeper was at play. Certainly Rance had begun to confide his thoughts of retirement to some teammates.

CEO Gale told Channel Nine on Monday night that the club had been surprised but not disappointed after learning via The Footy Show that the player was considering quitting. Gale said that Rance's manager had not mentioned it to the club but that he welcomed the new transparency surrounding the situation.

"He has other things in his life that he values and he's weighing those things up," said Gale. "This [the transparency] is a good thing,  we can work around these issues."

The good news for Richmond is that the club will take the first step towards meeting those requirements when it meets Petroro and potentially Rance by Friday. Clearly the club remains determined to convince Rance he will find happiness and success at Tigerland.

The combination of Rance's talent, his state of mind and the need to plan for some major free agency moves come the end of the season make these coming days a watershed negotiation for Richmond's future.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/why-richmonds-alex-rance-may-walk-away-20150428-1mvffg.html

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Re: Why Richmond's Alex Rance may walk away ..... (Age)
« Reply #1664 on: April 29, 2015, 12:22:36 AM »
 :lol so he was really a Jehovas Witness?
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