Author Topic: Polak thread [merged]  (Read 39171 times)

Offline one-eyed

  • Administrator
  • RFC Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 97368
    • One-Eyed Richmond
Listing an incentive for tram crash victim Graham Polak (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #165 on: November 16, 2008, 04:53:44 AM »
Listing an incentive for tram crash victim Graham Polak
Glenn McFarlane | November 16, 2008 12:00am

RICHMOND never considered asking the AFL for a special concession over Graham Polak's tram accident, because the club wanted to give him something to strive for.

Coach Terry Wallace said the Tigers could have sought assistance in a manner similar to Essendon rookie listing of Adam Ramanauskas in 2006 after his second battle with cancer.

But Wallace did not think it was in Polak's best interests and wanted to give him the incentive to play again, if doctors allow him to return.

"One of the things we wanted to do first up was to leave Graham on the list," Wallace said this week. "We could have tried to get compensation from the AFL. But we thought from Graham's point of view that we wanted to keep the door open and the light shining there.

"At the end of the day, he knows his position is there and he has something to strive for."

Wallace said Polak, who suffered a severe head injury after being hit by a tram in June, had come a long way in his recovery, but it remained unclear whether he would play again.

"Clearly it is going to be a long process, but the pleasing factor is that we are seeing improvement on a regular basis," he said.

"What line of improvement that is, we will have to wait and see. If he is living his life as a happy, healthy 70-year-old, that's the most important thing. The rest will look after itself."

Wallace said it was a very different story when he visited Polak in the Alfred Hospital less than 48 hours after the accident.

"Graham was basically in the fetal position and I didn't think there was going to be quality of life at that stage," he said.

Less than five months on, Polak is back at training, doing a modified program under the eyes of Richmond's fitness and medical staff. He is keen to play AFL football again.

He still has short-term memory loss and has a few balance issues, but he has been told to expect further improvement over the next year.

Wallace said the fact Polak was back training and mixing with his teammates had been a key part of his recovery.

"The whole thing has always been about the welfare of Graham as a bloke," he said.

"I think he has enjoyed being around the club again. Physically, he is doing up to the limits but not over the limits. We have got the right people to guide him as far as training goes. Medically, we have got the people on board.

"He is always around his mates, so that's good, too.

"I think from a footy aspect we are getting him to do some work now. The fact he is doing those things on a daily basis helps. All those things packaged together makes the club a good place for Graham to be."

Wallace said he did not know what sort of impact having Polak back would have on the playing group, but he could see only positives.

"I do know it will be a daily reminder of what football, and life, can present," he said.

"If any person was feeling a bit sorry for themselves they would only have to have a look at him running on the treadmill to realise what the last few months have presented for him.

"Players sometimes lead a sheltered life, so that adds a bit of a reality check for us all."

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,24657130-19742,00.html

bushranger

  • Guest
Re: Polly chats to Ch 7 news / Sunday-Herald Sun interview
« Reply #166 on: November 16, 2008, 09:50:44 AM »
I'm just wondering if he will make it back as how long will we keep him on the long term injury list.
I would love to see him come back as he showed he has got what it takes, but this just might be too big of a hurdle to jump over in the time needed.
I would hate to see him go but we can run on emotions to get the job done as hard as that sounds.
Just lets hope he makes it back, I would love to see him out there again. But I don't know if he will.

Moi

  • Guest
Re: Polly chats to Ch 7 news / Sunday-Herald Sun interview
« Reply #167 on: November 16, 2008, 10:44:32 AM »
A bit hard to know who to believe
Some say he's coming along well but reporters say Richmond officials don't expect him to play next season
And others say early next season
What is it?

Online WilliamPowell

  • Administrator
  • RFC Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 40045
  • Better to ignore a fool than encourage one
    • One Eyed Richmond
Re: Polly chats to Ch 7 news / Sunday-Herald Sun interview
« Reply #168 on: November 16, 2008, 02:20:12 PM »
A bit hard to know who to believe
Some say he's coming along well but reporters say Richmond officials don't expect him to play next season
And others say early next season
What is it?

I dont think it really matters. With brain injuries it can fluctuate so much, the specialist is the one who is best to judge and he is non-committal - no problems there.   

Personally, I reckon he has made remarkable progress and that it is just great to see him up and about, training (even if it is a modified program), setting himself goals and most of all just simply enjoying his life. That's all that matters.

"Oh yes I am a dreamer, I still see us flying high!"

from the song "Don't Walk Away" by Pat Benatar 1988 (Wide Awake In Dreamland)

bushranger

  • Guest
Re: Polly chats to Ch 7 news / Sunday-Herald Sun interview
« Reply #169 on: November 16, 2008, 02:30:09 PM »
A bit hard to know who to believe
Some say he's coming along well but reporters say Richmond officials don't expect him to play next season
And others say early next season
What is it?

I dont think it really matters. With brain injuries it can fluctuate so much, the specialist is the one who is best to judge and he is non-committal - no problems there.   

Personally, I reckon he has made remarkable progress and that it is just great to see him up and about, training (even if it is a modified program), setting himself goals and most of all just simply enjoying his life. That's all that matters.


I don't think that was the point, as we all are really happy to see him back at it. It is just the unknown when or if he will make a return.
Well to me this is what I thought Moi was saying as I know this is what I'm thinking and saying.

Online WilliamPowell

  • Administrator
  • RFC Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 40045
  • Better to ignore a fool than encourage one
    • One Eyed Richmond
Re: Polly chats to Ch 7 news / Sunday-Herald Sun interview
« Reply #170 on: November 16, 2008, 02:41:06 PM »
A bit hard to know who to believe
Some say he's coming along well but reporters say Richmond officials don't expect him to play next season
And others say early next season
What is it?

I dont think it really matters. With brain injuries it can fluctuate so much, the specialist is the one who is best to judge and he is non-committal - no problems there.   

Personally, I reckon he has made remarkable progress and that it is just great to see him up and about, training (even if it is a modified program), setting himself goals and most of all just simply enjoying his life. That's all that matters.


I don't think that was the point, as we all are really happy to see him back at it. It is just the unknown when or if he will make a return.
Well to me this is what I thought Moi was saying as I know this is what I'm thinking and saying.

bushranger, I understand what you are saying and I wasn't having a go a Moi.

I appreciate that there is this unknown about a "return".

All I was expressing is that at the moment to me it doesn't really matter one way or another. It's just great to see him being able to do what he is doing at the moment... nothing more nothing less
"Oh yes I am a dreamer, I still see us flying high!"

from the song "Don't Walk Away" by Pat Benatar 1988 (Wide Awake In Dreamland)

bushranger

  • Guest
Re: Polly chats to Ch 7 news / Sunday-Herald Sun interview
« Reply #171 on: November 16, 2008, 02:56:14 PM »
Sorry about that I wasn't having a go at you. Its just the unknown that we all would like to know more about.
So if it came over too strong I'm sorry mate, wasn't my intention at all.

Offline mightytiges

  • RFC Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 58582
  • Eat 'Em Alive!
    • oneeyed-richmond.com
Re: Polly chats to Ch 7 news / Sunday-Herald Sun interview
« Reply #172 on: November 17, 2008, 04:29:26 AM »
I guess the final determination on whether Polly can resume playing footy again or not is the risk to him if he copped another collision to the head on the field. Right now he thankfully looks like he's got his everyday quality of life back which is great news  :thumbsup. Playing a collision sport is a whole different matter.

I know this is different circumstances and medical treatment has greatly improved since 1974 but didn't John Greening kick our backsides in his first game back 2 years after being kinghit behind play and put into a coma, only to then play just 8 more games in the next 3 years before retiring. The chances of Polly playing again must be slim.
All you touch and all you see is all your life will ever be - Pink Floyd

Offline mightytiges

  • RFC Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 58582
  • Eat 'Em Alive!
    • oneeyed-richmond.com
Re: Listing an incentive for tram crash victim Graham Polak (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #173 on: November 17, 2008, 05:01:02 AM »
Listing an incentive for tram crash victim Graham Polak
Glenn McFarlane | November 16, 2008 12:00am

RICHMOND never considered asking the AFL for a special concession over Graham Polak's tram accident, because the club wanted to give him something to strive for.

Coach Terry Wallace said the Tigers could have sought assistance in a manner similar to Essendon rookie listing of Adam Ramanauskas in 2006 after his second battle with cancer.

But Wallace did not think it was in Polak's best interests and wanted to give him the incentive to play again, if doctors allow him to return.

"One of the things we wanted to do first up was to leave Graham on the list," Wallace said this week. "We could have tried to get compensation from the AFL. But we thought from Graham's point of view that we wanted to keep the door open and the light shining there.

"At the end of the day, he knows his position is there and he has something to strive for."
I still would've thought you could achieve the same incentive for Polly on the rookie list. He would still be training with his teammates and it would also allow him as much time as he needs to recover without the pressure of taking up a spot on our senior list with just one year left on his contract.
All you touch and all you see is all your life will ever be - Pink Floyd

Offline Chuck17

  • The Shaun Grugg of OER
  • RFC Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 13274
Re: Polly chats to Ch 7 news / Sunday-Herald Sun interview
« Reply #174 on: November 17, 2008, 09:09:57 AM »
I think the chances are very slim to MT,  I don't expect to see him back playing.

I am just very glad to see him appearing well and happy.

bushranger

  • Guest
Re: Polly chats to Ch 7 news / Sunday-Herald Sun interview
« Reply #175 on: November 17, 2008, 09:48:45 AM »
I think the chances are very slim to MT,  I don't expect to see him back playing.

I am just very glad to see him appearing well and happy.
This is so sad that we may never see him on the feild again.
But like you I'm happy to see him up and about again.
I'd rather know that he will be okay, than make a comeback only to be injured all over again.
I send my best to him.

Offline one-eyed

  • Administrator
  • RFC Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 97368
    • One-Eyed Richmond
The importance of mates (RFC)
« Reply #176 on: November 17, 2008, 06:44:57 PM »
The importance of mates
By Mic Cullen
Mon 17 November, 2008

GRAHAM Polak's first post-tram-accident memory is waking up in the Alfred Hospital and seeing good mates Trent Croad and Murray Silver sitting at his bedside.

"There's no point in really talking about the accident, or the night of the accident, because I don't remember any of it," Polak told richmondfc.com.au.

"I remember a little bit of the game that day, we played Carlton, and I remember the function after the game nearly as clear as day. That's surprising, that I can't remember the game but I remember the function after the game.

Full story:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/tabid/6301/Default.aspx?newsid=69843

Offline Infamy

  • RFC Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 4426
  • For We're From Tigerland
Re: Listing an incentive for tram crash victim Graham Polak (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #177 on: November 18, 2008, 09:15:41 AM »
I still would've thought you could achieve the same incentive for Polly on the rookie list. He would still be training with his teammates and it would also allow him as much time as he needs to recover without the pressure of taking up a spot on our senior list with just one year left on his contract.
I think you'll find that it had more to do with the fact that on the rookie list he would get a fixed salary of around $35k per year, he couldn't get put on the rookie list at the same pay as the last year of his contract. Rama agreed to the minimum wage which is why he was allowed on the rookie list.

Offline mightytiges

  • RFC Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 58582
  • Eat 'Em Alive!
    • oneeyed-richmond.com
Re: Listing an incentive for tram crash victim Graham Polak (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #178 on: November 18, 2008, 08:11:28 PM »
I still would've thought you could achieve the same incentive for Polly on the rookie list. He would still be training with his teammates and it would also allow him as much time as he needs to recover without the pressure of taking up a spot on our senior list with just one year left on his contract.
I think you'll find that it had more to do with the fact that on the rookie list he would get a fixed salary of around $35k per year, he couldn't get put on the rookie list at the same pay as the last year of his contract. Rama agreed to the minimum wage which is why he was allowed on the rookie list.
Ta infamy for the explanation  :cheers.

That puts us at a disadvantage though being one down on our senior list. I would have still tried to seek special dispensation to rookie Polly yet pay him according to the final year of his contract (we are under the salary cap). It is special circumstances that are no fault of the club or Polly. Anyway I guess with Polly remaining on the senior list it will mean we'll put him onto the long-term injury list the week before the season starts and promote a rookie. Although until we see who our 6 rookie choices are there's no known replacement.
All you touch and all you see is all your life will ever be - Pink Floyd

Offline one-eyed

  • Administrator
  • RFC Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 97368
    • One-Eyed Richmond
Polak’s frustrating recovery (RFC)
« Reply #179 on: November 20, 2008, 06:09:48 PM »
Polak’s frustrating recovery
By Mic Cullen
4:34 PM Thu 20 November, 2008

"GREASE" might have been the word that Olivia Newton-John and John Travolta were concerned about, but it's "frustration" for Tiger Graham Polak.

Balancing the frustration is the knowledge that his clash with the tram could easily have killed him, but such is human nature that it's the frustration of now that's stronger than the relief of simply being alive.

And while his progress has been terrific, it's a long way back from being in an induced coma with brain bruising to being an elite-level footballer.

Polak found himself having to relearn things he'd done all his life.....

Full article at:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6301/Default.aspx?newsId=69960