Why dont supporters go to away games ?

[mightytiges]

Are you going to Adelaide this week Jack and did you go to our 4 other interstate games this year?

Nah, cant afford it

Just curious as at $4 a week you could have flown over to Adelaide this Sunday given the hardcore supporter you claim to be  

[jackstar]

Are you going to Adelaide this week Jack and did you go to our 4 other interstate games this year?

Nah, cant afford it

Just curious as at $4 a week you could have flown over to Adelaide this Sunday given the hardcore supporter you claim to be  

Nah, just give a lame excuse like you
Money isnt the problem like I have said.
30,000 against the Brisbane Lions the previous week and 5000 last week,
You have a uni degree dont you ?, you work it out smart arse!,

[mightytiges]

Are you going to Adelaide this week Jack and did you go to our 4 other interstate games this year?

Nah, cant afford it

Just curious as at $4 a week you could have flown over to Adelaide this Sunday given the hardcore supporter you claim to be  

Nah, just give a lame excuse like you
Money isnt the problem like I have said.
30,000 against the Brisbane Lions the previous week and 5000 last week,
You have a uni degree dont you ?, you work it out smart behind!,

I don't have to as I'm not the one having a sook just so he can bag our own supporters and inflate his own tyres .

Without these supporters you bag Jack this club would've been dead long ago. They weren't and aren't the ones who have screwed the club over the past 26 years and they didn't distract the club midweek with more off-field crap .

[jackstar]

Your funny
Your the first to sook about the AFL and us losing blockbuster and friday night games etc

And my tyres dont take much air either, their low profile 

[mightytiges]

Your funny
Your the first to sook about the AFL and us losing blockbuster and friday night games etc

And my tyres dont take much air either, their low profile 

I think you mean You're  

LOL you believing the AFL chooses the fixture to maximise crowds. We finish top 4 in crowd numbers every year and it means bugger all as far as the fixture. It's all about tv ratings and $$$ and if you've been crap on-field you don't get the Friday nighters. It's the neutral supporters that bump up the numbers and they don't watch crap teams and games. Someone in marketing should already know that  .

Richmond Friday night games per season: (previous year finish)

2008:  0*     (16th)             *- 1 if you count the Easter Thursday game.
2007:  4       (9th)
2006:  4       (12th)
2005:  1       (16th)
2004:  4       (13th)
2003:  3       (14th)
2002:  7       (3rd)

Wow what a coincidence! A top 4 finish gave us 7 Friday nighters the following year while our wooden spoons gave us a token one at best.  

You'll also find Jack that more people in Melbourne watched us on tv play Brisbane (a home game) than Geelong (away game). So much for your theory that supporters prefer watching away games on tv than going  .


Saturday Night TV Ratings on TEN

                                                                    Total      Syd      Melb       Bris      Adel      Perth


HALL OF FAME TRIBUTE MATCH             1,317,000 112,000 676,000 101,000 204,000 225,000
RND 3: ESS vs CARL, BRIS vs SYD            891,000 112,000 445,000 114,000 114,000 106,000
RND 4: SYD vs WCE, PORT vs BRIS           842,000 118,000 333,000   85,000 126,000 179,000
RND 12: ADEL vs HAW, SYD vs ST K         841,000 117,000 351,000   60,000 209,000 105,000
RND 17: RICH vs BRIS, SYD vs ADEL         822,000  99,000 375,000   76,000 166,000 105,000
RND 11: ESS vs HAW, WCE vs SYD          814,000 134,000 356,000   60,000 102,000 161,000
RND 9: ESS vs RICH, WCE vs ADEL           806,000    ---      393,000   62,000 158,000 193,000
RND 14: SYDNEY vs COLLINGWOOD        775,000 123,000 387,000   50,000 101,000 114,000
RND 1: ST K vs SYD, WCE vs BRIS            773,000 104,000 303,000 109,000 111,000 146,000
RND 16: ST K vs HAW, BRIS vs WCE         766,000    ---      433,000   79,000 112,000 142,000
RND 13: WCE vs GEEL, BRIS vs ADEL       752,000    ---      354,000 108,000 165,000 125,000
RND 8: CARL vs BRIS, NM vs WCE             721,000    ---      351,000   90,000 108,000 172,000
RND 7: RICH vs ST K, ADEL vs NM              710,000    ---      391,000   51,000 170,000   97,000
RND 15: ESS vs BRIS, PORT vs NM            704,000    ---      357,000 131,000 120,000   96,000
RND 5: COLL vs NM, BRIS vs HAW              702,000
RND 10: GEEL vs CARL, BRIS vs NM          682,000    ---      363,000 139,000   88,000   92,000
RND 6: WB vs WCE, PORT vs ST K             672,000    ---      323,000   51,000 122,000 176,000
RND 2: ST K vs CARL, FREO vs HAW         669,000    ---      365,000   48,000 130,000 125,000
RND 14: NM vs ST K, WB vs PORT             613,000    ---      334,000   39,000 149,000   91,000
RND 18: GEEL vs RICH, NM vs BRIS           644,000    ---      365,000   92,000  97,000   91,000


Friday Night TV Ratings on SEVEN    

RND 17: HAWTHORN vs GEELONG            971,000  19,000  646,000  15,000 150,000 141,000
RND 6: FREMANTLE vs GEELONG             864,000  18,000  441,000    6,000 144,000 254,000
RND 7: WEST COAST vs CARLTON           854,000  26,000  442,000  24,000 144,000 218,000
RND 2: BRISBANE vs COLLINGWOOD       850,000
RND 4: ESSENDON vs W.BULLDOGS        788,000  13,000  472,000  20,000 143,000 141,000
RND 9: COLLINGWOOD vs GEELONG       782,000    7,000  456,000  20,000 126,000 171,000
RND 5: ST KILDA vs ESSENDON               771,000  30,000  481,000  15,000 122,000 124,000
RND 18: COLLINGWOOD vs HAWTHORN   770,000    7,000  493,000    8,000 136,000 125,000
RND 1: CARLTON vs RICHMOND***            758,000   ---       466,000  32,000 119,000 141,000
RND 16: KANGAROOS vs COLLINGWOOD 743,000  12,000  486,000    9,000 110,000 126,000
RND 14: ADELAIDE vs GEELONG              741,000  24,000  430,000  12,000 153,000 122,000
RND 13: ST KILDA vs FREMANTLE            726,000  21,000  396,000  13,000 130,000 167,000
RND 8: ST KILDA vs COLLINGWOOD        725,000
RND 3: W.BULLDOGS vs ST KILDA           724,000  19,000  446,000  13,000 131,000 114,000
RND 15: CARLTON vs ST KILDA                 724,000
RND 1: PORT ADELAIDE vs GEELONG       706,000  29,000  366,000 31,000 180,000 100,000
RND 10: ADELAIDE vs ESSENDON           695,000
RND 11: KANGAROOS vs GEELONG          688,000  14,000  422,000  15,000 113,000 123,000
RND 12: ESSENDON vs WEST COAST      670,000  11,000  373,000  12,000 109,000 166,000
RND 14: HAWTHORN vs WEST COAST      646,000  26,000  360,000  15,000   92,000 153,000

RND 1 on Thursday night double header.
*** = on TEN

[Tigermonk]

Cant get to games during the year  borrow $500 from centrelink  l hear you can get $500 loans wafl

[jackstar]

Your funny
Your the first to sook about the AFL and us losing blockbuster and friday night games etc

And my tyres dont take much air either, their low profile 

I think you mean You're  

LOL you believing the AFL chooses the fixture to maximise crowds. We finish top 4 in crowd numbers every year and it means bugger all as far as the fixture. It's all about tv ratings and $$$ and if you've been crap on-field you don't get the Friday nighters. It's the neutral supporters that bump up the numbers and they don't watch crap teams and games. Someone in marketing should already know that  .

Richmond Friday night games per season: (previous year finish)

2008:  0*     (16th)             *- 1 if you count the Easter Thursday game.
2007:  4       (9th)
2006:  4       (12th)
2005:  1       (16th)
2004:  4       (13th)
2003:  3       (14th)
2002:  7       (3rd)

Wow what a coincidence! A top 4 finish gave us 7 Friday nighters the following year while our wooden spoons gave us a token one at best.  

You'll also find Jack that more people in Melbourne watched us on tv play Brisbane (a home game) than Geelong (away game). So much for your theory that supporters prefer watching away games on tv than going  .


Saturday Night TV Ratings on TEN

                                                                    Total      Syd      Melb       Bris      Adel      Perth


HALL OF FAME TRIBUTE MATCH             1,317,000 112,000 676,000 101,000 204,000 225,000
RND 3: ESS vs CARL, BRIS vs SYD            891,000 112,000 445,000 114,000 114,000 106,000
RND 4: SYD vs WCE, PORT vs BRIS           842,000 118,000 333,000   85,000 126,000 179,000
RND 12: ADEL vs HAW, SYD vs ST K         841,000 117,000 351,000   60,000 209,000 105,000
RND 17: RICH vs BRIS, SYD vs ADEL         822,000  99,000 375,000   76,000 166,000 105,000
RND 11: ESS vs HAW, WCE vs SYD          814,000 134,000 356,000   60,000 102,000 161,000
RND 9: ESS vs RICH, WCE vs ADEL           806,000    ---      393,000   62,000 158,000 193,000
RND 14: SYDNEY vs COLLINGWOOD        775,000 123,000 387,000   50,000 101,000 114,000
RND 1: ST K vs SYD, WCE vs BRIS            773,000 104,000 303,000 109,000 111,000 146,000
RND 16: ST K vs HAW, BRIS vs WCE         766,000    ---      433,000   79,000 112,000 142,000
RND 13: WCE vs GEEL, BRIS vs ADEL       752,000    ---      354,000 108,000 165,000 125,000
RND 8: CARL vs BRIS, NM vs WCE             721,000    ---      351,000   90,000 108,000 172,000
RND 7: RICH vs ST K, ADEL vs NM              710,000    ---      391,000   51,000 170,000   97,000
RND 15: ESS vs BRIS, PORT vs NM            704,000    ---      357,000 131,000 120,000   96,000
RND 5: COLL vs NM, BRIS vs HAW              702,000
RND 10: GEEL vs CARL, BRIS vs NM          682,000    ---      363,000 139,000   88,000   92,000
RND 6: WB vs WCE, PORT vs ST K             672,000    ---      323,000   51,000 122,000 176,000
RND 2: ST K vs CARL, FREO vs HAW         669,000    ---      365,000   48,000 130,000 125,000
RND 14: NM vs ST K, WB vs PORT             613,000    ---      334,000   39,000 149,000   91,000
RND 18: GEEL vs RICH, NM vs BRIS           644,000    ---      365,000   92,000  97,000   91,000


Friday Night TV Ratings on SEVEN    

RND 17: HAWTHORN vs GEELONG            971,000  19,000  646,000  15,000 150,000 141,000
RND 6: FREMANTLE vs GEELONG             864,000  18,000  441,000    6,000 144,000 254,000
RND 7: WEST COAST vs CARLTON           854,000  26,000  442,000  24,000 144,000 218,000
RND 2: BRISBANE vs COLLINGWOOD       850,000
RND 4: ESSENDON vs W.BULLDOGS        788,000  13,000  472,000  20,000 143,000 141,000
RND 9: COLLINGWOOD vs GEELONG       782,000    7,000  456,000  20,000 126,000 171,000
RND 5: ST KILDA vs ESSENDON               771,000  30,000  481,000  15,000 122,000 124,000
RND 18: COLLINGWOOD vs HAWTHORN   770,000    7,000  493,000    8,000 136,000 125,000
RND 1: CARLTON vs RICHMOND***            758,000   ---       466,000  32,000 119,000 141,000
RND 16: KANGAROOS vs COLLINGWOOD 743,000  12,000  486,000    9,000 110,000 126,000
RND 14: ADELAIDE vs GEELONG              741,000  24,000  430,000  12,000 153,000 122,000
RND 13: ST KILDA vs FREMANTLE            726,000  21,000  396,000  13,000 130,000 167,000
RND 8: ST KILDA vs COLLINGWOOD        725,000
RND 3: W.BULLDOGS vs ST KILDA           724,000  19,000  446,000  13,000 131,000 114,000
RND 15: CARLTON vs ST KILDA                 724,000
RND 1: PORT ADELAIDE vs GEELONG       706,000  29,000  366,000 31,000 180,000 100,000
RND 10: ADELAIDE vs ESSENDON           695,000
RND 11: KANGAROOS vs GEELONG          688,000  14,000  422,000  15,000 113,000 123,000
RND 12: ESSENDON vs WEST COAST      670,000  11,000  373,000  12,000 109,000 166,000
RND 14: HAWTHORN vs WEST COAST      646,000  26,000  360,000  15,000   92,000 153,000

RND 1 on Thursday night double header.
*** = on TEN

LOL
How would tv ratings effect the crowd from one sat night to the next.

[Hellenic Tiger]

Look I can understand why people can and can't go to away games. Each to their own. In terms of away supporters that Jack talks about well 26 years of on field crap that we have endured will have a significant thing to do with our presence in the ground. I am sure if we were in an era similar to the one between 67-80  and with the number of blockbuster games played at the G we would be getting similar or more than lets say Collingwood  Essendon or Carlton who have seen their fair sure of ups. Especially the latter 2 the Pies are just mediocre at anything they do and the awful truth is a large minority of our society reflects this mediocrity and underachieving by hanging on grimly to the ideals that Collingwood is. But anyway back to the point.
I am not disagreeing with either MT nor Jack but if people who buy 11 game home memberships make the effort to go to 11 games and we are struggling on field for as long as we are then their effort to get to away games will diminish. Unfortunantely success starvation may affect numbers as well as probability of winning and when you look at the opponent we were playing then that may be another factor as to why people stay away.

Personally I went on Saturday night. I have an 11 game home membership and could not afford at the time of renewal to get a 16 game membership which I would have got. Anyway rather than harking on about my money I still always go to away games as I did on Saturday night. I went with a mate who was a member and my sister who's no member and is only just starting to see the light with the yellow and black and we sat in Aisle 9 on the top level row B which is general admission and paid $36.05 for the priviledge for tix I purchased last Wednesday. There I go again about my moolah $36 for a ticket that normally is $20. Maybe its the principle of the thing to some fans who feel that why should they pay those sort of prices as an away supporter to see us get beaten by Geelong. Same as last year when we played Essendon (not the result of course) when tix prices were inflated for the away supporter. To me I would watch the Tigers anywhere and a 16 game membership will still have prevented me from sitting in the gen admission area top level in the first 8 or so rows, so inequities in the way clubs and the AFL distribute tix is why we have these issues. Hence our fans stay away also and generally most away fans do especially at the dome where capacity is only 53K and there is not the room there as there is at the G.

[mightytiges]

Your funny
Your the first to sook about the AFL and us losing blockbuster and friday night games etc

And my tyres dont take much air either, their low profile 

I think you mean You're  

LOL you believing the AFL chooses the fixture to maximise crowds. We finish top 4 in crowd numbers every year and it means bugger all as far as the fixture. It's all about tv ratings and $$$ and if you've been crap on-field you don't get the Friday nighters. It's the neutral supporters that bump up the numbers and they don't watch crap teams and games. Someone in marketing should already know that  .

Richmond Friday night games per season: (previous year finish)

2008:  0*     (16th)             *- 1 if you count the Easter Thursday game.
2007:  4       (9th)
2006:  4       (12th)
2005:  1       (16th)
2004:  4       (13th)
2003:  3       (14th)
2002:  7       (3rd)

Wow what a coincidence! A top 4 finish gave us 7 Friday nighters the following year while our wooden spoons gave us a token one at best.  

You'll also find Jack that more people in Melbourne watched us on tv play Brisbane (a home game) than Geelong (away game). So much for your theory that supporters prefer watching away games on tv than going  .


Saturday Night TV Ratings on TEN

                                                                    Total      Syd      Melb       Bris      Adel      Perth


HALL OF FAME TRIBUTE MATCH             1,317,000 112,000 676,000 101,000 204,000 225,000
RND 3: ESS vs CARL, BRIS vs SYD            891,000 112,000 445,000 114,000 114,000 106,000
RND 4: SYD vs WCE, PORT vs BRIS           842,000 118,000 333,000   85,000 126,000 179,000
RND 12: ADEL vs HAW, SYD vs ST K         841,000 117,000 351,000   60,000 209,000 105,000
RND 17: RICH vs BRIS, SYD vs ADEL         822,000  99,000 375,000   76,000 166,000 105,000
RND 11: ESS vs HAW, WCE vs SYD          814,000 134,000 356,000   60,000 102,000 161,000
RND 9: ESS vs RICH, WCE vs ADEL           806,000    ---      393,000   62,000 158,000 193,000
RND 14: SYDNEY vs COLLINGWOOD        775,000 123,000 387,000   50,000 101,000 114,000
RND 1: ST K vs SYD, WCE vs BRIS            773,000 104,000 303,000 109,000 111,000 146,000
RND 16: ST K vs HAW, BRIS vs WCE         766,000    ---      433,000   79,000 112,000 142,000
RND 13: WCE vs GEEL, BRIS vs ADEL       752,000    ---      354,000 108,000 165,000 125,000
RND 8: CARL vs BRIS, NM vs WCE             721,000    ---      351,000   90,000 108,000 172,000
RND 7: RICH vs ST K, ADEL vs NM              710,000    ---      391,000   51,000 170,000   97,000
RND 15: ESS vs BRIS, PORT vs NM            704,000    ---      357,000 131,000 120,000   96,000
RND 5: COLL vs NM, BRIS vs HAW              702,000
RND 10: GEEL vs CARL, BRIS vs NM          682,000    ---      363,000 139,000   88,000   92,000
RND 6: WB vs WCE, PORT vs ST K             672,000    ---      323,000   51,000 122,000 176,000
RND 2: ST K vs CARL, FREO vs HAW         669,000    ---      365,000   48,000 130,000 125,000
RND 14: NM vs ST K, WB vs PORT             613,000    ---      334,000   39,000 149,000   91,000
RND 18: GEEL vs RICH, NM vs BRIS           644,000    ---      365,000   92,000  97,000   91,000


Friday Night TV Ratings on SEVEN    

RND 17: HAWTHORN vs GEELONG            971,000  19,000  646,000  15,000 150,000 141,000
RND 6: FREMANTLE vs GEELONG             864,000  18,000  441,000    6,000 144,000 254,000
RND 7: WEST COAST vs CARLTON           854,000  26,000  442,000  24,000 144,000 218,000
RND 2: BRISBANE vs COLLINGWOOD       850,000
RND 4: ESSENDON vs W.BULLDOGS        788,000  13,000  472,000  20,000 143,000 141,000
RND 9: COLLINGWOOD vs GEELONG       782,000    7,000  456,000  20,000 126,000 171,000
RND 5: ST KILDA vs ESSENDON               771,000  30,000  481,000  15,000 122,000 124,000
RND 18: COLLINGWOOD vs HAWTHORN   770,000    7,000  493,000    8,000 136,000 125,000
RND 1: CARLTON vs RICHMOND***            758,000   ---       466,000  32,000 119,000 141,000
RND 16: KANGAROOS vs COLLINGWOOD 743,000  12,000  486,000    9,000 110,000 126,000
RND 14: ADELAIDE vs GEELONG              741,000  24,000  430,000  12,000 153,000 122,000
RND 13: ST KILDA vs FREMANTLE            726,000  21,000  396,000  13,000 130,000 167,000
RND 8: ST KILDA vs COLLINGWOOD        725,000
RND 3: W.BULLDOGS vs ST KILDA           724,000  19,000  446,000  13,000 131,000 114,000
RND 15: CARLTON vs ST KILDA                 724,000
RND 1: PORT ADELAIDE vs GEELONG       706,000  29,000  366,000 31,000 180,000 100,000
RND 10: ADELAIDE vs ESSENDON           695,000
RND 11: KANGAROOS vs GEELONG          688,000  14,000  422,000  15,000 113,000 123,000
RND 12: ESSENDON vs WEST COAST      670,000  11,000  373,000  12,000 109,000 166,000
RND 14: HAWTHORN vs WEST COAST      646,000  26,000  360,000  15,000   92,000 153,000

RND 1 on Thursday night double header.
*** = on TEN

LOL
How would tv ratings effect the crowd from one sat night to the next.

Well you're the one that brought up friday night games which are made for tv games and then tried to pin our lack of them on one Saturday night away game when in fact it's based on where a club finishes on the ladder the previous year. Pretty simple.

Good post HT74  . People don't like being ripped-off and with the Dome's limited capacity that's where it often happens.

[jackstar]

Might add you are paying for a "" different product"" when you walk into the dome.

[buffet]

hellenic tiger you are a good sport taking your sister to the footy. i bet she appreciates that very much.

[mightytiges]

Might add you are paying for a "" different product"" when you walk into the dome.

Is that Ian Collins and his mumbo jumbo of excuses for ripping people off speaking?! "Different product" ... oh please! .  We're going to the footy FFS!

You get a plastic fold-down seat to watch the game, 80's elevator music pre-game, an annoying announcer who says "get ready tiger fans, give us a roar" that kills the natural atmosphere as the team runs out, plus food 3 times the price of outside  . Yep I can't understand why we pay more at the Dome than the 'G. We're suckers!  

[jackstar]

Might add you are paying for a "" different product"" when you walk into the dome.

Is that Ian Collins and his mumbo jumbo of excuses for ripping people off speaking?! "Different product" ... oh please! .  We're going to the footy FFS!

You get a plastic fold-down seat to watch the game, 80's elevator music pre-game, an annoying announcer who says "get ready tiger fans, give us a roar" that kills the natural atmosphere as the team runs out, plus food 3 times the price of outside  . Yep I can't understand why we pay more at the Dome than the 'G. We're suckers!  

You have no idea about Marketing do you
Last timed I looked the Dome had a roof on it.
The atompshere last sat week was the best thing I have been to in a long time.
You are able to eat in fantastic restaurants., you should try it one day, its fun you know.
Might add the chips and pies are the same price as at the G.

[Fwoy3]

Why is this wacko thread still going? The answer was fairly obvious...a lot of members buy 11 game home memberships. People buy reserve seats and get to sit downstairs at home games, but are forced to sit up top or pay over the top for reserve seating for away games.

FWIW, I have an 18 game membership and I didn't go to either the Brissie game OR the Geelong game. I would go to any game I can, be it home or away, but I work Saturday nights so I didn't go. If I am lucky I'll see two more games this year.

Sometimes, people have more important things to do...deal with it.

[blaisee]

richmond fans hate the tesltra dome, infact all club fans do.

It takes an hour to get in, and an hour to get out.

The club knows this and is trying to schedule as few games as possible at TD in the coming years.

Better onfield results will help us achieve our goals

The TD is ahole