Who Will Not Be At Richmond After 2008 ???

[Francois Jackson]

Carlton dumped Clint Benjamin (pick 51, 2006) today after just 2 injury-riddled years on their list. Seems we may be about to do the same with Cass after 3 injury-riddled years.

lets hope so.

[torch]

when are we going to delist ?

i tip - Pettifer, Casserly and JON delisted

Howat, Silvester, Cardtledge - not retained (Collard - retained)


8 players - Tivendale (32), Hyde (31), Pettifer (15), Casserly (37), Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls (29), Howat (43), Silverster (36), Cardtledge (38) - Out

4 Seniors spots available and 3 Rookie spots available.

i would have only 2 Rookies and draft four 17/18 years olds this draft.

[Francois Jackson]

when are we going to delist ?

i tip - Pettifer, Casserly and JON delisted

Howat, Silvester, Cardtledge - not retained (Collard - retained)


8 players - Tivendale (32), Hyde (31), Pettifer (15), Casserly (37), Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls (29), Howat (43), Silverster (36), Cardtledge (38) - Out

4 Seniors spots available and 3 Rookie spots available.

i would have only 2 Rookies and draft four 17/18 years olds this draft.

i agree except for Cartlidge. we dont want to go down a ruckman like last year

[Stripes]

when are we going to delist ?

i tip - Pettifer, Casserly and JON delisted

Howat, Silvester, Cardtledge - not retained (Collard - retained)


8 players - Tivendale (32), Hyde (31), Pettifer (15), Casserly (37), Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls (29), Howat (43), Silverster (36), Cardtledge (38) - Out

4 Seniors spots available and 3 Rookie spots available.

i would have only 2 Rookies and draft four 17/18 years olds this draft.

i agree except for Cartlidge. we dont want to go down a ruckman like last year

If we keep Cartledge he will have to be elevated to the main list. He is too old for the Rookie list now.

I agree though he should be kept.

Stripes

[Chuck17]

i agree except for Cartlidge. we dont want to go down a ruckman like last year

Agree there, with Simmo only 1/2 years off retirement we need another solid ruck option to come through for the future but also for 2009 to give Simmo a rest.  Not that I wanted to but I thought we may have traded picks for a ruck (eg Seaby/Warnock).

We need Graham or Cartledge to step up to the mark real soon or otherwise look for an alternative.



Edit to correct quote

[torch]

"daniel161", "Stripes" and "Chuck17" ... what i do not understand is ... we have Simmonds, Pattison, Graham and Putt as "i believe" are Ruckmen.

we can debate if Pattison, Graham and Putt are Ruckmen, though why don't we play them?

i would rather have those three developing in the ruck then finding another ruckmen from another club.

i understand that we need a ruckmen to take over Simmonds, but we do not show faith in those three young players.

Graham

has been signed another contract. he has played two matches in i'm not sure how long, either 2 or 3 years.

if we are keeping him because he is a ruckmen then at least play him.

i am not sure if he was injured or anything.

i do understand that Ruckmen take a long time to develop but i am sure you all would like to see Graham to play.

Putt

only had one year so very early to call.

Pattison

a lot of Richmond supporters do not like Pattison which i can see why, lol.

but i believe his best position is in the Ruck.

i would much rather Richmond draft a "genuine" 17/18 year old Ruckmen, then a quick fix.

we have gone through some recycled Ruckmen since 2000 and only Simmonds has paid off.

if we keep Cartledge he has to be on the senior list.

[Chuck17]

Torch,

I agree the ruckmen we do have must be given a chance first.

Graham was coming along well and then busted something which set him back a bit.  To my mind Graham is a real chance to be the replacement, I believe Coburg were trying to push him forward a bit as well although I am not too sure how that went.

As you said with Putt he is too young to make a call on yet and must be given time to develop.

With Patto I dont think he is regarded as a permanent ruck type if he is in that position it is more a fill in position for him.  I like Patto as he has a big motor and is a real tryer I am just not convinced if he is a ruck or not, more a CHF for mine.

Cartledge judging on his last few games of the season could be a possibility as well.  He is definitely a good physical presence in there.

The issue is though that Simmo has been bearing the load of our ruck duties and probably has only 1 or 2 years left.  When he was out of action in 2007 we really struggled in the middle and it was only the work of some of our  mids eg Foley and Tuck that we didn't get a complete hiding in that area.

By all means give our kids ago first, but if they don't/cant perform it is an area that has to be addressed.  Simmo is a very valuable player for us and I think of all the retirees he may be the hardest to replace given our current development

[Babsky]

Petts won't be delisted.  Was re-signed early August.

[mightytiges]

Petts won't be delisted.  Was re-signed early August.

That was the word going around at the time based on a story in the paper about Petts but Craig Cameron has publicly stated since that Petts hadn't received a new contract. He may now get one though if we are holding onto him for another year despite being out of contract, turning 27 in January with an ACL injury and playing for Coburg anyway for most of 2008 .