Do you seriously think it is okay to bag him on the one hand and defend Terry Wallace on the other?
Edit: fixed quoting
No I dont think it is OK to bag him unfairly or bring his character into disrepute and I dont believe I ever have. What I saw as unfair was your original comment of blaming TW for JON's lack of ability to break it into the AFL. He was a first round highly regarded draft pick and like it or lump has expectations attached accordingly.
I think you are over rating the effect of one person in a AFL footballers development over a three year period. Do you think if JON doesn't make it as an AFL footballer he will say it was the fault of TW?, if he has the dignity and class you credit him with and the honesty then he shouldnt.
Chuck, JON did not pick himself as 8 in that draft, so you are bagging a bloke over something he has no control over.
Please read my original comment regarding TW's involvement in developing a talent, not being responsible for his ability.
Every player's ability is their own, how they apply that talent is something that the coach should try encourage, cajole, needle, harass or somehow extract from them.
But lets agree to disagree, you seem to think that it is okay to hold a 21 year old responsible for his draft pick and use that as a basis for taking pot shots at him and yet you fiercely defend ANY criticism of a coach that has been in the game for 30 years which includes 4 years at Richmond with a winning rate at under 40% over that period.
Whatever Chuck.
so let me get this right.
Its not JON's fault he is a crap footballer that 15 other clubs would have delisted years ago. Fair enough he didn't pick himself at 8.
Its not Tw's fault for extracting SFA in this footballer over 4 years.
Its not miller's fault for drafting the dud himself.
Its no one's fault that we embarass ourselves by continuing to keep footballer's like this on our list.
FFS everyone take note HE IS poo. full stop no ifs no buts he is not fit to play for an AFL club.
The reason we have been so unsuccessful is by continuing to have these list cloggers around at our club.
Danny Meyer was not a favourite of mine, but next to JON he might as well be Gary Ablett JNR. How we chose JON over him is a joke.