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Re: IT'S TIME TO GO THE TANK- IT'S OUR ONLY HOPE! [merged]
« Reply #600 on: August 02, 2009, 05:59:25 PM »
Eagles 29 points up at half-time. Although we need them to win to push us up the draft order I won't hold my breath.

Interesting stuff today with Bailey today flipping his whole forward and back lines around. It was like watching the U10s where everyone gets a go in every position lol.  You should have heard the Demon supporters ringing into SEN afterwards thanking Jordie and Richmond  ::).

of course they thanked jordie, he just got them 2 star junior players instead of just the 1.

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Re: IT'S TIME TO GO THE TANK- IT'S OUR ONLY HOPE! [merged]
« Reply #601 on: August 02, 2009, 06:48:49 PM »
Eagles 25 points up at 3/4 time.  Let's see if the Eagles tank a 4 goal lead in the last quarter. Bugger Bombers have just kicked a goal  :-\.
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Re: IT'S TIME TO GO THE TANK- IT'S OUR ONLY HOPE! [merged]
« Reply #602 on: August 02, 2009, 07:12:46 PM »
Eagles have lost their priority pick  :woohoo

Geez the Bombers are going to finish ninth yet are currently worse than bottom 4 sides  :lol

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Re: IT'S TIME TO GO THE TANK- IT'S OUR ONLY HOPE! [merged]
« Reply #603 on: August 02, 2009, 07:14:34 PM »
If Melbourne had have won today they'd still have to play Freo
I reckon the Demons will beat the Dockers so they both still qualify for PPs

I wonder how much "easy money" was lost on the punt today

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Re: IT'S TIME TO GO THE TANK- IT'S OUR ONLY HOPE! [merged]
« Reply #604 on: August 02, 2009, 07:18:23 PM »
after watching west coast game on TV, tanking doesnt exist

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Re: IT'S TIME TO GO THE TANK- IT'S OUR ONLY HOPE! [merged]
« Reply #605 on: August 02, 2009, 07:20:15 PM »
Eagles have lost their priority pick  :woohoo

Geez the Bombers are going to finish ninth yet are currently worse than bottom 4 sides  :lol



Makes our performances over the last 3 weeks even more galling to us and why we should have tanked. Right now we would be bottom of the ladder with 3.5 wins Freo and Melbourne playing in rd 20 on 4 wins and W Coast with 5 wins. When we might be a top line midfielder or KPP short these wins will come home to roost. Melbourne will beat Freo and both teams will have one. Looks like pick 7 for us instead of pick 1 and 3 and then something in the high teens. Hopefully we can trade something of value.

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Re: IT'S TIME TO GO THE TANK- IT'S OUR ONLY HOPE! [merged]
« Reply #606 on: August 02, 2009, 07:27:32 PM »
just trade a player .

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Re: IT'S TIME TO GO THE TANK- IT'S OUR ONLY HOPE! [merged]
« Reply #607 on: August 02, 2009, 07:51:38 PM »
after watching west coast game on TV, tanking doesnt exist

no doubt that's what andew demitriou will say "wce proved that tanking doesn't exist".  but he's delusional

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Re: IT'S TIME TO GO THE TANK- IT'S OUR ONLY HOPE! [merged]
« Reply #608 on: August 02, 2009, 07:53:20 PM »
Yep Tucky the Dees have just landed Scully and Butcher  :(. A total of 12 points has separated us from the 5.5 wins we have to just 2 wins for the year.

We have picks 6, 23, 39, 55, 71, ... at the minute.

1. Melb   3 wins
2. Melb
3. Freo   3.5 wins
4. North  4.5 wins
5. WC     5 wins
6. Rich    5.5 wins
7. Syd     7 wins
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17. St Kilda
18. Freo
19. Melb
20. Freo
21. North
22. WC
23. Rich
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39. Rich
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55. Rich
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71. Rich
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Re: IT'S TIME TO GO THE TANK- IT'S OUR ONLY HOPE! [merged]
« Reply #609 on: August 02, 2009, 09:56:39 PM »
4. North

7. Syd     7 wins


There's your extra early pick right there folks.. take your pick  ;D

Seriously we are a trade away from either North or Sydney's first round pick.

North are going on and on about needing mid fielders and speed - we have the solution for them do we have the courage to do the trade ? :help

Sydney would give up their first rounder for the right deal

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Re: IT'S TIME TO GO THE TANK- IT'S OUR ONLY HOPE! [merged]
« Reply #610 on: August 02, 2009, 10:43:22 PM »
4. North

7. Syd     7 wins


There's your extra early pick right there folks.. take your pick  ;D

Seriously we are a trade away from either North or Sydney's first round pick.

North are going on and on about needing mid fielders and speed - we have the solution for them do we have the courage to do the trade ? :help

Sydney would give up their first rounder for the right deal

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I like it WP  :thumbsup but it's hard to see any club giving up a top 10 pick in trade week. As you say I could only see Sydney as well considering it and that would be only due to major financial concerns about bottoming out and needing to top up to stay competitive in a tough marketplace for AFL.
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Re: IT'S TIME TO GO THE TANK- IT'S OUR ONLY HOPE! [merged]
« Reply #611 on: August 02, 2009, 11:00:19 PM »
can somebody actually answer these questions ...

the past three weeks. are we tanking? or are our players not good enough to win by more then one goal?

please, i have been on the 'tanking @ Richmond' and our wins are ugly!

why is this?

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Re: IT'S TIME TO GO THE TANK- IT'S OUR ONLY HOPE! [merged]
« Reply #612 on: August 02, 2009, 11:02:43 PM »
can somebody actually answer these questions ...

the past three weeks. are we tanking? or are our players not good enough to win by more then one goal?

please, i have been on the 'tanking @ Richmond' and our wins are ugly!

why is this?
We've actually tried to lose every game in the last 3 weeks but we can't even do that properly

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Re: IT'S TIME TO GO THE TANK- IT'S OUR ONLY HOPE! [merged]
« Reply #613 on: August 02, 2009, 11:52:42 PM »
can somebody actually answer these questions ...

the past three weeks. are we tanking? or are our players not good enough to win by more then one goal?

please, i have been on the 'tanking @ Richmond' and our wins are ugly!

why is this?
The first half of the North game and most of the Essendon game was good footy. More direct longer kicking footy, winning the clearances and spreading well from stoppages, and hitting targets. More importantly the defensive pressure in terms of tackling and hard running was there which forced the opposition in mistakes. We just couldn't maintain the intensity required for 4 quarters which allowed the opposition to gain back the momentum and close in again on the scoreboard in both games. With a young side that can happen. They can be very inconsistent.

Today on the other hand was just hideous. Back to overpossessing with handball and selfish, lazy, leave it to other guy to do the work footy. It was back to old habits of peeling off from the ballcarrier leaving him exposed to the opposition and stuffing up with handgrenade handball. Basically non-existent teamwork. To me we mentally thought today was going to be a piece of cake after last week's effort and we weren't mentally switched on and prepared to do the 1%ers things that made last week's win so promising. The difference between our good and bad is still too large for us to get ahead of ourselves and think we're not such a bad side. We are a bottom side for a reason.
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Andrew Demetriou may lose Kevin Bartlett in tank war (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #614 on: August 03, 2009, 04:08:51 AM »
Andrew Demetriou may lose Kevin Bartlett in tank war
Mike Sheahan | August 03, 2009

ANDREW Demetriou now stands alone on tanking, abandoned by a previously immovable minister for propaganda, Kevin Bartlett.

The AFL legend, who covered the Richmond-Melbourne game for SEN radio, said later he had witnessed certain events that alarmed him.

Expect more from Bartlett when he returns to the microphone this morning.

The man who changes his mind as often as he visits a hairdresser gave every indication he will turn his back on Demetriou, leaving him alone and exposed as the front for the anti-tanking movement.

Like so many others at the MCG, Bartlett was perplexed by many of the moves from the Melbourne coach's box - backmen playing forward, forwards back, talls on smalls, and odd combinations in the midfield.

Demetriou may point to the fact Melbourne regained the lead deep in time-on in the last quarter with two goals after Richmond built a 10-point lead.

The cynics will counter by saying Melbourne found itself in front because Richmond simply was incapable of claiming a victory staring it in the face.

As it happened, the Tigers got home with a split-second to spare, Jordan McMahon marking on the siren and then converting from just inside 50.

McMahon has copped a heap of criticism since joining Richmond, yet he delivered in the most testing of all circumstances - a set shot after the siren to decide the game.

The AFL Commission simply has to reassure the public on this issue, as the Herald Sun has urged for several weeks.

The game is being damaged. Either by the reality of tanking, which CEO Demetriou bluntly rejects, or the widespread perception.

It is nonsensical for the AFL to push for a recasting of Round 22 in the interests of the integrity of the finals series while the home-and-away series is so obviously compromised.

Not for the first time, we say the priority picks must go.

The reward simply is too great for clubs that finish down the bottom two years running, winning no more than 16 points in both years. Which is Melbourne's situation.

The Demons may win one more without diminishing their entitlements. With Fremantle at home in Round 20, one more would seem a matter of course.

Which made yesterday's result so critical.

If Melbourne wins no more than one of its last four games and remains 16th and last on the ladder, it will be rewarded with the first two picks in the national draft, access to the best two juniors in the country.

There are those who say it would be irresponsible of those in charge to jeopardise such a handsome package.

Demetriou simply cannot continue to say: "Nothing's going to change."

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25872783-19742,00.html