What we have is 4 ruckman all u23 you pessimistic toad.
Long term it's a healthy postion to be in given ruckman don't start finding. Best form untill 25/26
not getting into a slanging match all i have to say is its only a healthy situation if you are reasonably sure you have at least 2 decent ruckmen on your list. most clubs can categorically say they have at least one if not two at the least afl standard ruckmen. the idea is to actually compete and find better than other sides.
clearly this is not the case. bloody hell every man and his dog on most richmond forums have been telling me graham is the best we have.
all im asking is what is the likely hood given where each player comes from and their weaknesses, of them actually making it.
no need for the abuse at the end of the day i want exactly the same thing as you. that is we find a couple of decent ruckmen. i just happen to think we dont have long term ruckmen on our list and think we need to load up a bit and ensure we do find a couple of good ones.
what would you propose we do if graham browne and derickx dont make it and vickery becomes primarily a forward. myself and many others have already written graham off as any thinking football follower should.so in effect we are trying to find 2 ruckmen from 3. it just does not happen.
without a doubt come seasons end graham should be delisted and his spot should be taken by another ruckman. we need to turn em over until we find the quality we want.
so what do we do just let matters rest and risk in 3 yrs time having to start from scratch. or do we cater now to the worst case scenario load up with a few extra ruckmen in an attempt to ensure we find what we need. what is there to lose we are in rebuild if we end up with 4 good ruckmen we sell two to the highest bidder for decent picks. this is what well run clubs have done and do.
anyway like i said no need for the abuse we want the same thing i at least come up with a way that i think will help us actually find some decent ruckmen and could well benefit us at draft time in the future.
i will say again its only healthy if you actually have ruckmen who become bonafide afl standard players we have to cater for failure not every player we take is going to make it. you wouldnt realise this given the way supporters talk about every single player on our list. we have to be realistic and in being realistic and its only my opinion graham has to go. we wont know if vickery is a decent ruckman for two yrs and the odds atm of both browne and derickx making it are short. like you i hope the whole friggen lot of them become guns but common sense says it wont happen.
im not putting the players down im just saying hey lets cover our bets here.