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Re: Trade Period: Day One tidbits/SEN reported Otto deal
« Reply #165 on: October 08, 2004, 01:59:20 AM »
Ottens set to join Geelong
By Jake Niall, Stephen Rielly
October 8, 2004


Brad Ottens heads to Geelong in a complicated trade deal.

Brad Ottens was poised to become a Geelong player last night in the culmination of a deal involving five clubs.

The key to the yet-to-be ratified deal was Melbourne obtaining Geelong's young midfielder Brent Moloney while Carlton arranged to swap first- and second-round draft picks, giving the Tigers the critical pick inside the draft's top 10 that they made an unconditional part of any Ottens trade.

Should the deal go ahead, as expected, the Tigers would get picks nine and 16 in return for Ottens, Melbourne would obtain Moloney, while, in exchange for picks nine and 25, Carlton receives picks 12, 20 and 36.

The Blues would also land Kangaroo Leigh Harding, while the Roos would receive Richmond's Ty Zantuck. The Kangaroos have already spoken to Zantuck, who has strong family connections with the club, at which his father Shane and uncle Arnold Briedis both played.

The most crucial portion of the deal, however, is Geelong's decision to forgo Moloney - whom the club regarded highly - to secure Melbourne's first-round draft pick (No. 12).

Once Geelong had shown a willingness to part with one of its fleet of capable young midfielders, the Ottens trade gathered momentum yesterday.

 Moloney is understood to have accepted the trade, having reacted emotionally when an upset Mark Thompson informed him that he was earmarked as the sacrificial Cat.


Ummm...sorry, but this is garbage

We lose Ottens, Zantuck, pick 20 and pick 36
We Gain picks 9, 16 and 25

Carlton lose picks 9, 25
Carlton gain picks 12, 20, 36 and Harding

We lose 4 items to gain 3
Carlton lose 2 items to gain 4

Geelong get Ottens but only give up pick 16 and Maloney

...and on top of this we have to take Simmonds in the Pre-Season Draft?

This is stuffed on every level if true. Surely pick 20 (or 36) isn't involved, or we must be getting something else from somewhere...(Geelong??)  :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
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Re: Trade Period: Day One tidbits/SEN reported Otto deal
« Reply #166 on: October 08, 2004, 02:04:17 AM »
I'm pretty sure he has got it wrong, it's the deal I posted earlier, we keep 20 but basically trade Zantuck for nothing, he's a freebie by the look of it. Would have liked a pick for him as well. but other than that it's pretty good.
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Re: Trade Period: Day One tidbits/SEN reported Otto deal
« Reply #167 on: October 08, 2004, 02:08:12 AM »

If we trade for Troy that'll leave us with picks 1, 4, 9, 16 then a big jump to 52  :-\.


And the first pick in the PSD  :thumbsup

We have Freo in the pillow biting position here. If we can secure a pretty good player in the PSD then we should give them pick 25. If not we'll have him for free and keep pick 25. Either way it sounds pretty good to me.
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Re: Trade Period: Day One tidbits/SEN reported Otto deal
« Reply #168 on: October 08, 2004, 02:12:38 AM »

This is stuffed on every level if true. Surely pick 20 (or 36) isn't involved, or we must be getting something else from somewhere...(Geelong??)  :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead

Maybe pick 32 from Geelong? Would be great if we get it. Not the end of the world if we don't.

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Re: Trade Period: Day One tidbits/SEN reported Otto deal
« Reply #169 on: October 08, 2004, 02:13:45 AM »

If we trade for Troy that'll leave us with picks 1, 4, 9, 16 then a big jump to 52  :-\.


And the first pick in the PSD  :thumbsup

Yeah that's true John but is there any decent out-of-contract player left and can we afford them? ??? Seems everyone who wanted to be traded got their wish this time around.
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Re: Trade Period: Day One tidbits/SEN reported Otto deal
« Reply #170 on: October 08, 2004, 02:16:00 AM »
I still think we've been stuffed over here, but oh well.

Hopefully we can trade for Bowden and Gilbee tomorrow, while offloading some scraps (Chaffey, Fiora  ;D)

And didn't Hawthorn want Pettifer...pick 10 thanks  :lol
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Re: Trade Period: Day One tidbits/SEN reported Otto deal
« Reply #171 on: October 08, 2004, 02:17:41 AM »
...and I seriously can't see the need for pick 36 in that trade deal.
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Re: Trade Period: Day One tidbits/SEN reported Otto deal
« Reply #172 on: October 08, 2004, 02:18:17 AM »

This is stuffed on every level if true. Surely pick 20 (or 36) isn't involved, or we must be getting something else from somewhere...(Geelong??)  :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead

Maybe pick 32 from Geelong? Would be great if we get it. Not the end of the world if we don't.

I reckon they should cough that up at least to us otherwise we are giving away Ty for zip  :(. The Cats are getting off lightly when you compare what they were initially offering of both picks 16 and 32 plus two players (Enright and Gardiner).  
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Re: Trade Period: Day One tidbits/SEN reported Otto deal
« Reply #173 on: October 08, 2004, 02:19:27 AM »
I doubt we will loose picks 20 and 36, if anything we should gain either 25 or 32 otherwise somebodies had a brain explosion.
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Re: Trade Period: Day One tidbits/SEN reported Otto deal
« Reply #174 on: October 08, 2004, 02:21:53 AM »

This is stuffed on every level if true. Surely pick 20 (or 36) isn't involved, or we must be getting something else from somewhere...(Geelong??)  :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead

Maybe pick 32 from Geelong? Would be great if we get it. Not the end of the world if we don't.

I reckon they should cough that up at least to us otherwise we are giving away Ty for zip  :(. The Cats are getting off lightly when you compare what they were initially offering of both picks 16 and 32 plus two players (Enright and Gardiner).  

In essence, we've given up twice as much as Geelong in this deal :banghead :banghead
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Re: Trade Period: Day One tidbits/SEN reported Otto deal
« Reply #175 on: October 08, 2004, 02:22:07 AM »

If we trade for Troy that'll leave us with picks 1, 4, 9, 16 then a big jump to 52  :-\.


And the first pick in the PSD  :thumbsup

Yeah that's true John but is there any decent out-of-contract player left and can we afford them? ??? Seems everyone who wanted to be traded got their wish this time around.

Doesn't seem to be any standouts does there...  We'll just have to take Simmonds for free in that case  ;D

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Re: Trade Period: Day One tidbits/SEN reported Otto deal
« Reply #176 on: October 08, 2004, 02:23:22 AM »
I still think we've been stuffed over here, but oh well.

Hopefully we can trade for Bowden and Gilbee tomorrow, while offloading some scraps (Chaffey, Fiora  ;D)

And didn't Hawthorn want Pettifer...pick 10 thanks  :lol

Yes, If you believe that article Fwoy, we have been stuffed over, but I think he's got it wrong :help.
I stuffen hope so anyway :o
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Re: Trade Period: Day One tidbits/SEN reported Otto deal
« Reply #177 on: October 08, 2004, 02:27:41 AM »

If we trade for Troy that'll leave us with picks 1, 4, 9, 16 then a big jump to 52  :-\.


And the first pick in the PSD  :thumbsup

Yeah that's true John but is there any decent out-of-contract player left and can we afford them? ??? Seems everyone who wanted to be traded got their wish this time around.

Doesn't seem to be any standouts does there...  We'll just have to take Simmonds for free in that case  ;D


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Re: Trade Period: Day One tidbits/SEN reported Otto deal
« Reply #178 on: October 08, 2004, 02:32:24 AM »
Geelong don't get away with it that easy.. they get Ottens. ROFLFMAOOOOOO!!!!

If pick 9 or 16 turn out to be anything better that good-to-average the cats will spew.

Ottens won't do anything too special down there. Geelong are overrating their list in my opinion and if they think Ottens will get them over the line for a flag I think they might be in for a rude shock.

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Re: Trade Period: Day One tidbits/SEN reported Otto deal
« Reply #179 on: October 08, 2004, 05:46:09 AM »
Didn't we have a better deal on day one? ::)