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Re: Trade Period: Day One tidbits/SEN reported Otto deal
« Reply #180 on: October 08, 2004, 06:01:20 AM »
I cannot believe the deal as it stands.

I would suggest maybe 9 and 16 from the cats, 25 from the blues to the Tigers

Zantuck to North

Harding, pick 12 to Carlton.

Ottens to Geelong

We would then trade 20 for Simmonds, Fremantle get Black and St Kilda get 20 and a player???



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Re: Trade Period: Day One tidbits/SEN reported Otto deal
« Reply #181 on: October 08, 2004, 06:09:52 AM »
Sorry, But i cant beleive that people are still upset at what we wil lbe getting back in return.
If a deal couldnt have been done, we would not have drafted him back in PSD.Therefore, we would get nothing for him.
And we all know he is a dud anyway
Why would you make someone play where they dont wont to be and there heart isnt in it.?
Any draft picks will benefit RFC and it will ease the salary cap situation as well. Wins all around for the RFC i say ;)

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Re: Trade Period: Day One tidbits/SEN reported Otto deal
« Reply #182 on: October 08, 2004, 07:10:02 AM »
Exactly right, Jack - people on here have been very greedy this week lol   :rollin
Be grateful if we get just one high draft pick for the dud!

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Re: Trade Period: Day One tidbits/SEN reported Otto deal
« Reply #183 on: October 08, 2004, 08:20:14 AM »
At the end of the day, its a weak position to back yourself into when negotiating.

You should get out of the game, if this is the best you can get.

Its so far from getting 2 first round picks for ottens. 

Yeah we get them, but we throw in Zantuck and another draft pick?

Doubt it.......

p.s  Couldn't give a stuff who the player was that was being traded, as compared to the other deals being done, the Otto deal should be worth more.

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Re: Trade Period: Day One tidbits/SEN reported Otto deal
« Reply #184 on: October 08, 2004, 08:20:27 AM »
Sorry, But i cant beleive that people are still upset at what we wil lbe getting back in return.
If a deal couldnt have been done, we would not have drafted him back in PSD.Therefore, we would get nothing for him.
And we all know he is a dud anyway
Why would you make someone play where they dont wont to be and there heart isnt in it.?
Any draft picks will benefit RFC and it will ease the salary cap situation as well. Wins all around for the RFC i say ;)

Jack, what is the deal exactly, the original deal that I heard didn't contain us losing pick 20 or 36, then the newspaper article has insinuated that these two picks will be lost and pick 25 picked up.

What is the exact deal? The original deal I liked overrall even though zantuck was thrown to the wolves for zip effectively, the newspaper one I thought we had been raped a tad ;D
« Last Edit: October 08, 2004, 08:28:24 AM by Rodgerramjet »
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Re: Trade Period: Day One tidbits/SEN reported Otto deal
« Reply #185 on: October 08, 2004, 08:29:22 AM »
I'm not sure what's going on, but if we had gone with the original deal with Geelong, we would have got a couple of decent picks for Otto, which meant there would have been no losing pick 20 as we could have picked up Simmonds in PSD and shafted Freo in the process.
Now, this deal says we lose two players for 2 picks.  I reckon this is the pits and Miller doesn't get a Mr Smiley stamp on his record this time.
Having said that, it's still a few hours to go and anything can happen.

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Re: Trade Period: Day One tidbits/SEN reported Otto deal
« Reply #186 on: October 08, 2004, 08:33:51 AM »
I'm not sure what's going on, but if we had gone with the original deal with Geelong, we would have got a couple of decent picks for Otto, which meant there would have been no losing pick 20 as we could have picked up Simmonds in PSD and shafted Freo in the process.
Now, this deal says we lose two players for 2 picks.  I reckon this is the pits and Miller doesn't get a Mr Smiley stamp on his record this time.
Having said that, it's still a few hours to go and anything can happen.

I agree froarson the above scenerio, but i'm not totally sure what the real deal is at this point, I have two conflicting deals as far as the distribution of late picks goes so we will have to wait and see what the official notification is.
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Re: Trade Period: Day One tidbits/SEN reported Otto deal
« Reply #187 on: October 08, 2004, 09:44:13 AM »
Hey, these are the benefits.
We have moved on an underperforming player.
We are adjusted our salary cap accordingly.
We will have an extra selection in the first round of the draft. FANTASTIC!
We have sent the message to ALL players that they club isnt a MONEY COW anymore.
Now what picks were Daniel Jackson and Hartigan picked up in last years draft ::)

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Re: Trade Period: Day One tidbits/SEN reported Otto deal
« Reply #188 on: October 08, 2004, 09:47:42 AM »
Hey, these are the benefits.
We have moved on an underperforming player.
We are adjusted our salary cap accordingly.
We will have an extra selection in the first round of the draft. FANTASTIC!
We have sent the message to ALL players that they club isnt a MONEY COW anymore.
Now what picks were Daniel Jackson and Hartigan picked up in last years draft ::)

Im with you Jackster, but I dont believe the deal is complete and there might yet be a surprise in it for us.

Glad were getting rid of 2 under achievers, I hope the loser mentality follows them!

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Re: Trade Period: Day One tidbits/SEN reported Otto deal
« Reply #189 on: October 08, 2004, 09:51:38 AM »
Disco, as I posted last night, deal is done with Ottens.dont worry !

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Re: Trade Period: Day One tidbits/SEN reported Otto deal
« Reply #190 on: October 08, 2004, 09:56:11 AM »
Hey, these are the benefits.
We have moved on an underperforming player.
We are adjusted our salary cap accordingly.
We will have an extra selection in the first round of the draft. FANTASTIC!
We have sent the message to ALL players that they club isnt a MONEY COW anymore.
Now what picks were Daniel Jackson and Hartigan picked up in last years draft ::)

Im with you Jackster, but I dont believe the deal is complete and there might yet be a surprise in it for us.

Glad were getting rid of 2 under achievers, I hope the loser mentality follows them!

I think we are all with him on those points. Still wondering if there is another third rounder comming our way in this deal, I hope there is ;D
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Re: Trade Period: Day One tidbits/SEN reported Otto deal
« Reply #191 on: October 08, 2004, 09:57:41 AM »
MELBOURNE ruckman Darren Jolly transferred to Sydney for first-round selection No. 15.

Now that's a good deal for Swannies - better than Ottens, 'cause we all know that he's a dud   ;)

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Re: Trade Period: Day One tidbits/SEN reported Otto deal
« Reply #192 on: October 08, 2004, 10:09:03 AM »
Ronnie, I will be first to say the Jolly will be a great assest for the Swans.
Lets see how Ottens goes at the cats next year.
Geelong will revert back to there HANDBAG status next year.
Maybe  instead of the recently new fad of holding Toyota cutouts and plastic slappers, maybe we could introduce for Round 1 , handbags with the BIG O written on the side :o

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Re: Trade Period: Day One tidbits/SEN reported Otto deal
« Reply #193 on: October 08, 2004, 10:10:07 AM »
Oraton have nice handbags with the big O written on them lol

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Re: Trade Period: Day One tidbits/SEN reported Otto deal
« Reply #194 on: October 08, 2004, 10:36:04 AM »
Once Geelong had shown a willingness to part with one of its fleet of capable young midfielders, the Ottens trade gathered momentum yesterday.

 Moloney is understood to have accepted the trade, having reacted emotionally when an upset Mark Thompson informed him that he was earmarked as the sacrificial Cat.

Give me a break. Is it any wonder that Geelong hasn't been able to get any players for years. What a joke.

If we get picks 9, 16 & 25 - I;ll be happy because we get rid of Ottens and Zantuck. It also means we can only give Freo pick 25 for Simmonds seeing they are now desperate to trade for him because they want Black.

The dills at Freo should have taken pick 20 on Monday when they had the chance.  :thumbsup
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