Trade Period: Day One tidbits/SEN reported Otto deal

[mightytiges]

North are making every mistake we made the past 10 years. Finishing 9th/10th and trading away their top picks thinking an experienced player will scrape them into the finals.

[harry bosch]

North are making every mistake we made the past 10 years. Finishing 9th/10th and trading away their top picks thinking an experienced player will scrape them into the finals.

Agreed , i think thommo turns 27 next year so that makes it even more strange.

[WilliamPowell]

Agreed , i think thommo turns 27 next year so that makes it even more strange.

Correct Harry B - Thompson is 27 in February.

If he is wroth picks 10 & 26 then Ottens has to be worth a top 10 pick and one in the late teens.

[mightytiges]

You're not Greg Miller in disguise are you WP?   

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Cats clear cut favourites to land Ottens
5:39:39 PM Tue 5 October, 2004
afl.com.au

With Nathan Thompson now joining the Kangaroos, Geelong has emerged as the clear frontrunner to land Richmond's Ottens but that deal is still far from certain to happen before Friday's 2pm trade deadline.

Richmond football operations manager Greg Miller told Sportal on Tuesday that the Roos' decision to give up picks ten and 26 for Thompson made the Tigers even more determined to get two first round picks for Ottens - including one in the first ten.

"As good as Nathan Thompson is, Brad Ottens is two years younger than him and is an All-Australian player (in 2001, unlike Thompson)," Miller said.

However the only way the Tigers are likely to get a top ten pick for Ottens is if Collingwood agree to give their pick seven to Geelong, which would in turn give that pick and its own first pick at number 16 to the Tigers for Ottens.

But Collingwood will only give that pick to the Cats if Geelong agree to give them one of James Kelly, James Bartel and Kane Tenace.

However all three players are regarded as "untouchable" by Cats' coach Mark Thompson.

One possible scenario that emerged on Tuesday was Ottens getting to Geelong as part of a three way deal involving Essendon.

Under the deal the Cats would get Ottens and Essendon would get Richmond defender Ty Zantuck and Geelong runner David Wojcinski while the Tigers would get Essendon's first pick and Geelong's first pick.

However Miller said that while that would mean the Tigers would get two first round picks in exhange for Ottens those picks would be selections 14 and 16 with Miller adamant any trade for Ottens must include one pick being in the top 10.

http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=174066

[JohnF]

Ottens to Geelong
Zantuck, Wojcinski and Blumfield to Essendon
Picks 14, 16, 32 and a fourth round pick from Essendon would do us fine 

[Crumden]

Latest rumuor has Geelong using Chapman (and possibly Wojinski) to get the skunks pick 7, either directly or via Melbourne with Travis Johnstone on the the skunks.

[mightytiges]

After the Stenglein trade today, the Dees now have first round picks #12 and #13. 

[mightytiges]

Trade News
By Jake Niall, Stephen Rielly
realfooty.theage.com.au
October 6, 2004

Simmonds is a fait accompli to join Richmond, having committed to join the Tigers, via the pre-season draft if necessary.

Essendon is attempting to obtain Geelong's gifted young midfielder Kane Tenace through trading Mark Johnson (whose brother David plays for the Cats) and its first draft choice No. 14 to Geelong - which would then use that choice as part of its Brad Ottens package. Richmond, however, has made it clear it is not interested in a pick above 10.

http://realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2004/10/05/1096949508638.html

[Puntroadroar]

FFS this ottens talk is starting to really give me the $hits! 


Getting to a stage where I'd tell em all to stuff off, Ottens aswell!!!!

let the sod end up at Hawthorn. We arent going to get what we want for Brad, the only 2 teams under 10 willing to part or likely to part with their picks is Collingwood and Adelaide and ofcourse Geelong has their 38 untouchables players 

[mightytiges]

Feeling a touch the same way PRR. Geelong want to trade but don't want to give up anything of quality  .

Anyway Otto could end up at the Blues according to the Australian if Whitnall goes to the Saints.

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If Whitnall is traded to the Saints, Carlton could come out of left field to put itself in a position to hijack a trade deal with Richmond for Brad Ottens.

Carlton could be in possession of two first-round selections, No.9 and No.17, which could leave it best placed to satisfy Richmond's minimum requirement to trade ruckman Ottens.

Richmond confirmed yesterday it would trade Ottens to Carlton for its picks despite Ottens' preference to be traded to either Sydney or Geelong.

Neither the Swans nor the Cats have been able to satisfy the Tigers by trading into a selection from another club inside the top 10.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,10983848%255E2722,00.html

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Never thought I would say this but Go Blues   

[JohnF]

Richmond confirmed yesterday it would trade Ottens to Carlton for its picks despite Ottens' preference to be traded to either Sydney or Geelong.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,10983848%255E2722,00.html

Can we do this? Is so bring the Hawks, Bulldogs and Blues into the mix. stuff his wants!

[Fwoy3]

Do it! 

Oh, and JohnF, we need sound effects for your avatar now 

[WilliamPowell]

Well while stuck in traffic I was able to listen to Tezza was on SEN this morning.

In summary:

Ottens: The Club has made it clear they want 2 first round picks and one must be in the top 10. We will not budge on this - if a deal canot be done we will re-draft him in the PSD - as per the rules. Said there had been a lot of talk about Ottens but no action

PSD: We have not committed to anyone in the PSD - this is because the Ottens deal is not done - they have to keep pick 1 in the pSD free in case they need to use it on Judas oops I meant Brad. Tezza also said that the rumour by Deep Throat this morning that the Tigers had committed to take Joel Smith in the PSD  was totally incorrect

Ty Zantuck: said no deal had been done and would only be done if it benefitted the Tigers. Praised and took an indiret swipe at Ottens when he said that Ty had the guts at thier first meeting to say he wanted to leave - at least he didn't send in his managers - touche Tezza 

Simmonds: wasn't mentioned.

Steve McKee: confirmed that he had spoken to Mckee. Non commital on whether we would try and trade for him - hinted may invite him to do pre-season training and take it from there.

On Assistant coaches: said that we currently had 2 assistants, Royal & Wheadon. Pointed out that people keeping forgetting about Dave Wheadon - who Tezza has kept fromt he previous coaching panel . Siad they are still looking at another person - didn't say if they'd be full time or part time. Confirmed that David King (ex Roos) was on a short list of 4

Onya Tezza 

[froars]

Steve McKee: confirmed that he had spoken to Mckee. Non commital on whether we would try and trade for him - hinted may invite him to do pre-season training and take it from there.

Is this some sick joke lol.  No thanks!

[Disco]

There was also talk of Gilbee & Bowden?

Lets dump Brad and Zantuck and get on with the business of drafting players that want to be at Tigerland!

looks as if we wont have enough time to satisfy other deals that might be in the offering.