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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #525 on: November 08, 2021, 05:42:12 PM »
Unless they are generational type player or absolute gun I would never take a ruckman with a first rounder.  Either they take too long to come on or when they are about to they get poached like CCJ and bugger off. 
I would be very disappointed if we walked away with Mac Andrew on draft night.

He is a generational type player.  Worth the risk as the upside is huge.

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #526 on: November 08, 2021, 05:43:50 PM »
Prospective top-10 draft pick Mac Andrew says two of the 16 AFL clubs he has spoken to have stood out in particular.

Having held talks with all bar two AFL clubs, Andrew says the Giants and Hawks are the pair that he has connected with, peculiarly through ‘speed dating’.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/11/07/how-potential-top-10-draftee-connected-with-two-clubs-over-speed-dating/

Both clubs before our first pick.

Interestingly Rachele said Adelaide and GWS.  Seems no coincidence the clubs they are linked to the most are the ones they nominate.

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #529 on: November 09, 2021, 03:11:47 PM »
Unproven Vic bolters set to turn draft on its head

Could the Cats and Tigers be better placed to land the next Bont than the clubs with top picks? Here is why the Victorian prospects are about to turn draft night on its head.

paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/kevin-sheehan-lack-of-experience-for-vic-draftees-could-completely-turn-the-draft-on-its-head/news-story/e2513f7b40310ffbd9e92fd1e3808f7e


For those with a HeraldSun subscription, who is this next Bont?

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #530 on: November 09, 2021, 03:34:59 PM »
Callum Twomey & Nat Edwards on the AFL website:

WATCH: https://www.afl.com.au/video/686917/draft-whispers-pick-swaps-what-will-hawks-blues-crows-do-

Summary:

* A bit of a holding pattern at the moment but discussions going on behind the scenes. Clubs have got until next Monday to do pick swaps otherwise they will have to wait to do them on draft night.

* Giants likely to take pick 2 to the draft. Gold Coast, Adelaide, Hawthorn & Richmond all have been interested in moving up.

* Dogs' pick 23: Collingwood, Sydney & Geelong interested in that pick.

* Port is looking to get another pick inside the top 30.

* Essendon throwing up its future 2nd for trade to get another 2nd round pick in this draft.

* Carlton are willing to put their pick 25 up for trade.

* Rachele linked to Adelaide at pick 4 (6 after bids) for a while. Others that would be good for the Crows: Simms, Wanganeen-Milera. Crows can't push back in the draft for Rachele as he'll be gone but do the Crows push back if they want Wanganeen-Milera?

* Callaghan will be gone before Hawks' pick 5 (7 after bids). Ward, Hobbs and Andrew will be available. Johnson has also attracted interest from the Hawks.

* Connor MacDonald linked to the Blues at pick 25. Judson Clarke and Zac Taylor will also be available at that stage of the draft.

* GWS linked to making a bid on Owens (St Kilda's academy). That could happen at pick 13 (15 after bids). If they don't bid then there's a better chance he falls outside the top 20 and to the Saints.

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #531 on: November 09, 2021, 04:38:13 PM »
Unproven Vic bolters set to turn draft on its head

Could the Cats and Tigers be better placed to land the next Bont than the clubs with top picks? Here is why the Victorian prospects are about to turn draft night on its head.

paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/kevin-sheehan-lack-of-experience-for-vic-draftees-could-completely-turn-the-draft-on-its-head/news-story/e2513f7b40310ffbd9e92fd1e3808f7e


For those with a HeraldSun subscription, who is this next Bont?

Just a teaser from the sub-editor.

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #532 on: November 09, 2021, 08:28:06 PM »
Unproven Vic bolters set to turn draft on its head

Could the Cats and Tigers be better placed to land the next Bont than the clubs with top picks? Here is why the Victorian prospects are about to turn draft night on its head.

paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/kevin-sheehan-lack-of-experience-for-vic-draftees-could-completely-turn-the-draft-on-its-head/news-story/e2513f7b40310ffbd9e92fd1e3808f7e


For those with a HeraldSun subscription, who is this next Bont?

Just a teaser from the sub-editor.
True but did they state a name? It's behind a paywall so I can't read the article.

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #533 on: November 09, 2021, 08:51:02 PM »
Sinn I believe

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #534 on: November 09, 2021, 09:08:50 PM »
Would be a bonus if the Hawks overlooked Ward for Johnson at 7 (after bids). Potential for Ward to slip to us at 9. Mind you Twomey only said the Hawks had an interest in Johnson at 5. He seems to expect one of the Ward, Hobbs or Andrew to end up at Hawthorn.

Having a guess at the top 10:

1. North - Horne-Francis
2. Coll - Daicos (matched bid)
3. WB - Darcy (matched bid)
4. GWS - Andrew
5. GC - Callaghan
6. Adel - Rachele
7. Haw - Ward
8. Freo - Gibcus
9. Rich - Hobbs
10. Freo - Erasmus

Going further with the guess  :-\.

11. StK - Johnson
12. WC - Amiss
13. Ess - Wanganeen-Milera
14. Port - Draper
15. GWS - Owens (bid that can't be matched by St Kilda inside top 20)
16. Bris - Sinn
17. Rich - ?

I can't find any rumours at all about who we are looking at 17. Not even the type of player (mid, KP, etc)? Possibly available would be Van Rooyen, Goater, Sonsie, Wilmot, Butler?
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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #535 on: November 09, 2021, 11:27:01 PM »
Would be a bonus if the Hawks overlooked Ward for Johnson at 7 (after bids). Potential for Ward to slip to us at 9. Mind you Twomey only said the Hawks had an interest in Johnson at 5. He seems to expect one of the Ward, Hobbs or Andrew to end up at Hawthorn.

Having a guess at the top 10:

1. North - Horne-Francis
2. Coll - Daicos (matched bid)
3. WB - Darcy (matched bid)
4. GWS - Andrew
5. GC - Callaghan
6. Adel - Rachele
7. Haw - Ward
8. Freo - Gibcus
9. Rich - Hobbs
10. Freo - Erasmus

Going further with the guess  :-\.

11. StK - Johnson
12. WC - Amiss
13. Ess - Wanganeen-Milera
14. Port - Draper
15. GWS - Owens (bid that can't be matched by St Kilda inside top 20)
16. Bris - Sinn
17. Rich - ?

I can't find any rumours at all about who we are looking at 17. Not even the type of player (mid, KP, etc)? Possibly available would be Van Rooyen, Goater, Sonsie, Wilmot, Butler?

A bid by us on Josh Fahey is a big chance at 17 and if GWS match then don't be surprised if we go for Tom Brown.  Very underrated by the internet but not by those in the know

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #536 on: November 10, 2021, 05:29:18 AM »
Another BF draft watcher's (getgaff) phantom draft:

PICK 1: NORTH MELBOURNE - Jason Horne Francis
PICK 2: COLLINGWOOD F/S - Nick Daicos (matching GWS bid)
PICK 3: WESTERN BULLDOGS F/S - Sam Darcy (matching GWS bid)
PICK 4: GWS - Mac Andrew
PICK 5: GOLD COAST - Finn Callaghan
PICK 6: ADELAIDE - Josh Rachele
PICK 7: HAWTHORN - Josh Ward
PICK 8: FREMANTLE - Nasiah Wanganeen - Milera

PICK 9 – RICHMOND: BEN HOBBS

HEIGHT: 183 CM ~ WEIGHT: 80 KG ~ DOB: 16/09/03
POSITION: INSIDE MIDFIELDER ~ CLUB: GWV REBELS

RATIONALE: Some solid feedback and good rationale here from Tigers fans has swayed me into Hobbs here and is clearly a needs based selection also given the older Richmond midfield and a more bankable midfielder than Draper would’ve been at their second pick.

In terms of pure inside mids this draft the only one who would be ahead is Horne Francis and JHF ability to move forward and impact the scoreboard I think tends to make him more a mid / fwd.

As an inside player he brings the key qualities that you’d want and expect in terms of his hunt for the contest, his consistency, the way he accumulates the ball at will and his pressure defensively.


PICK 10: FREMANTLE - Jye Amiss
PICK 11: ST. KILDA - Neil Erasmus
PICK 12: WEST COAST - Matthew Johnston
PICK 13: ESSENDON - Josh Goater
PICK 14: PORT ADELAIDE - Josh Sinn
PICK 15: GWS - Arlo Draper
PICK 16: BRISBANE - Josh Gibcus

PICK 17: RICHMOND – CAMPBELL CHESSER

HEIGHT: 186 CM ~ WEIGHT: 83 KG ~ DOB: 27/04/2003
POSITION: MIDFIELDER / DEFENDER ~ CLUB: SANDRINGHAM DRAGONS

RATIONALE: What Chesser brings to the table is outside traits that compare well with Hobbs on the inside.

Having just lost Houli, Chesser brings similar attributes on the outside particularly by foot and with a desire to take the game on.

Turned what was initially Andrew and Draper into Hobbs and Chesser which isn’t a bad outcome for the Tigers.

PICK 18: SYDNEY - Darcy Wilmot
PICK 19: MELBOURNE - Jacob Van Rooyen
PICK 20: BRISBANE - Tyler Sonsie
PICK 21: FREMANTLE – JESSE MOTLOP ...................... (SMALL FWD, SOUTH FREO)
PICK 22: NORTH MELBOURNE – MITCH KNEVITT ......... (INSIDE MID / TALL FWD TRAITS, GEELONG FALCONS)
PICK 23: HAWTHORN – BLAKE HOWES ...................... (FWD / MID, SANDY DRAGONS)
PICK 24: GEELONG – TOBY CONWAY ......................... (RUCK, GEELONG FALCONS)
PICK 25: HAWTHORN - ZAC TAYLOR .......................... (MID / FWD, CALDER CANNONS)
PICK 26: ST. KILDA NGA - MITCH OWENS .................. (INSIDE MID, SANDY DRAGONS)
PICK 27: CARLTON - MATTHEW ROBERTS ................... (INSIDE MID / FWD, SOUTH ADELAIDE)

PICK 28: RICHMOND – RHETT BAZZO ........................ (KEY DEF, SWAN DISTRICTS)

PICK 29: GWS ACADEMY – JOSH FAHEY (matches our bid) ...........(GEN DEF, QUENBEAYEN)

PICK 30: RICHMOND – TOM BROWN .......................... (GEN DEF, MURRAY BUSHIES)

PICK 31: RICHMOND - COREY WARNER ...................... (BALANCED MID, EAST FREO)

PICK 32: WEST COAST – ANGUS SHELDRICK............... (INSIDE MID, CLAREMONT)
PICK 33: GEELONG – LEEK ALLEER ............................ (KEY DEF, CENTRAL DISTRICT)
PICK 34: SYDNEY – SAM BUTLER .............................. (FWD / MID, GWV REBELS)
PICK 35: GEELONG – JUDSON CLARKE ...................... (FWD / MID, DANDY STINGRAYS)
PICK 36: ADELAIDE – COOPER MURLEY ..................... (MID / FWD, NORWOOD)
PICK 37: GEELONG – CONNOR MACDONALD .............. (INSIDE MID, SANDY DRAGONS)
PICK 38: WEST COAST – ALASTAIR LORD .................. (NORWOOD, SA)
PICK 39: MELBOURNE - SAM BANKS .......................... (MID / DEF, CLARENCE)

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/getgaff-phantom-draft-2021.1291031/

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #537 on: November 10, 2021, 05:30:02 PM »
CLUBS will be back at Marvel Stadium for this year's NAB AFL Draft after last year making their picks from separate locations around the country.

As the draft moved to a virtual event in 2020 to deal with COVID-19 restrictions and protocols, club recruiters made selections via their draft 'war rooms' where they linked into the broadcast via online meetings.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/687003/from-the-bunker-to-the-corporate-box-draft-is-back-at-marvel

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #538 on: November 10, 2021, 05:32:51 PM »
The top end of the NAB AFL Draft order looks set to remain as is until draft night as the deadline for swapping picks before the event closes in.

Greater Western Sydney's pick No.2 has become a target for clubs trying to push up the board and nab Finn Callaghan, with Gold Coast, Adelaide, Hawthorn and Richmond all interested, but the Giants are expected to hold the selection.

The Giants have been weighing midfielder Callaghan, ruck Mac Andrew, defender Josh Gibcus and small forward Josh Rachele for that pick.

Richmond has also previously had interest in shifting up from pick No.7 to the Crows' pick No.4, using its swag of picks inside the top 30, but no deal is in the works.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/687001/why-draft-pick-swapping-has-hit-the-wall-for-the-moment


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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #539 on: November 10, 2021, 05:45:41 PM »
Jimmy Bartel expects Josh Gibcus to be snapped up inside the top seven picks on draft night.

“The obvious thing is where Gold Coast has its early pick and then Freo’s got an early pick as well,” Bartel said.

“He’s high quality. I’ll be surprised if he’s still there at pick 7. He’s extremely talented.

“The fact that (Jason) Horne-Francis and (Josh) Daicos are so good then you’ve got (Sam) Darcy and (Finn) Callaghan, there’s your top four.

“They all (clubs) think Gibcus is about pick 5.”

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/11/10/top-draft-prospect-close-to-eagles-defender-aspiring-to-follow-all/