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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2022, 02:05:51 PM »
With the Hopper deal separate, @GWSGIANTS list boss says there is a possibility players and picks will be involved in that particular deal. #AFLTrade

https://twitter.com/JonoBaruch/status/1576718428550799361


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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2022, 02:10:47 PM »
With the Hopper deal separate, @GWSGIANTS list boss says there is a possibility players and picks will be involved in that particular deal. #AFLTrade

https://twitter.com/JonoBaruch/status/1576718428550799361

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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2022, 02:21:48 PM »
We should have made a way for Bowes. That pick 7 straight to gws and we get to keep next years. Should never have signed Dow and George last year.

Whoever strikes that deal are very lucky indeed. He is still
owed what 1.6 so spread it out over 4. He pays less tax and club gets pick 7 and a player for peanuts.





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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2022, 03:00:25 PM »
We should have made a way for Bowes. That pick 7 straight to gws and we get to keep next years. Should never have signed Dow and George last year.

Whoever strikes that deal are very lucky indeed. He is still
owed what 1.6 so spread it out over 4. He pays less tax and club gets pick 7 and a player for peanuts.

Why wouldn't GC spread it out over 4?
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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2022, 03:11:23 PM »
It won’t be 1.6 over 4 for Bowes.

It’ll be 1.6 + additional incentive to do spread it out.

Makes no sense to Bowes to do 1.6 over 4. You’d just take it over the 2 remaining years and enter into a new contract at the end of it for additional $$$.

Suspect it’ll be something like 2.4 over for. Less per year but more money over the contract as an incentive.

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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2022, 03:18:55 PM »
We should have made a way for Bowes. That pick 7 straight to gws and we get to keep next years. Should never have signed Dow and George last year.

Whoever strikes that deal are very lucky indeed. He is still
owed what 1.6 so spread it out over 4. He pays less tax and club gets pick 7 and a player for peanuts.
Gold Coast have said whoever gets Bowes will still have to cop up a decent pick in return for him plus pick 7. Even ignoring the salary cap, we can't do it given we'll be using our picks on Taranto and Hopper.
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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2022, 04:08:31 PM »
We are going to cop a reaming for Hopper based on what we traded TT for. 
30 plus first pick next year for sure plus a player

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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2022, 04:12:49 PM »
Makes a lot of sense why he would spread it out, unless he is a quality player that is a certainty to earn more after 2.
 
1.6 over 2 is a lot of tax when compared with 1.6 over 4..
 
Good point Wayne i dont know. I do know it’s more likely that unlikely to be a great deal for the club that secures the deal.

If it’s the cats I suspect they will offload some dud like narkle to please the afl cheating brigade, and satisfy the salary dump “criteria”
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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2022, 04:13:09 PM »
We are going to cop a reaming for Hopper based on what we traded TT for. 
30 plus first pick next year for sure plus a player

As expected TBH but would expect a pick to come back the other ways as well

He is contracted, so is going to cost us

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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2022, 04:24:46 PM »
Future first, 30 and Soldo for Jacob and a pick around 40 would do it.

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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2022, 04:44:31 PM »
Future first, 30 and Soldo for Jacob and a pick around 40 would do it.

They seem very keen on Soldo

Kingsley must rate him highly :huh
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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2022, 05:14:23 PM »
Future first, 30 and Soldo for Jacob and a pick around 40 would do it.

Way overs not future first.

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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2022, 05:41:44 PM »
Future 1st (Pick 18), Pick 30 and Soldo is a steal for a contracted and young AA squad member.
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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #28 on: October 03, 2022, 06:56:52 PM »
Giants' General Manager of Football Jason McCartney on SEN this arvo.

Listen: https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=1048074

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"Jacob has stated his intentions and Richmond understands where that sits."

"[Hopper trade] needs a bit more work done on that. Not obvious with what Richmond has sitting there at the moment that it can be done. Need that extra time to look at things that can be done there to improve what a deal can look like."

"[Hopper] being in contract is an advantage for us [GWS]."

"Richmond in our dealings with them around Tim and initial chats about Jacob have been really good to deal with in what they have got on offer."

"Unique scenario of having two quality players going to the one club. Putting forward what you've got is fantastic but ultimately is it enough in the end. So that's what we've got to continue to work for. That's why we split the [deals] and did them separately."

"Combination of draft picks and players [for Hopper]. No doubt about that."

"Conversations has been ongoing for a week or so. Now knowing what we've got in our hand now, we've got 9 days to continue those conversations and investigations."

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Re: Jacob Hopper to Richmond thread
« Reply #29 on: October 03, 2022, 07:27:54 PM »
Future first, 30 and Soldo for Jacob and a pick around 40 would do it.

Way overs not future first.

Do you really expect to get Jacob hopper for a second round pick? Collingwood just gave that to the giants for Bobby hill lol.