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Football => View from the Outer => Topic started by: WA Tiger on May 29, 2013, 10:36:05 AM
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This could be the small forward we have been after for years....worth the risk????? Why not IMO!!!!!!
Shunned young gun Dayle Garlett says he is a changed man and ready for AFL football
FOOTBALL'S problem child, Dayle Garlett, says he has corrected the lifestyle problems that warranted him being labelled "a ticking time bomb'' at last year's national draft.
Garlett was overlooked by all 18 clubs last year and was kicked out of the AIS/AFL academy despite a reputation as the most talented footballer in the draft pool.
The slick left-footer trained with Essendon in the off-season but was bypassed after a 4am bender in Perth only three days before the pre-season draft.
But Garlett has had a stunning off-field transformation, convincing Swan Districts officials and recruiters he will be worth the punt in November.
Garlett broke his silence on last year's draft snub.
"Football-wise, I was probably ready last year,'' Garlett told the Herald Sun.
"Maturity-wise, probably not. But I feel better than ever.
"I have got a girlfriend and things are going great.
"I feel like a weight has been lifted off my shoulders.
"My main focus is to make the AFL at the end of the year and I'm going to give it 100 per cent.''
On the field, Garlett has been an unstoppable force for Swan Districts this season, bagging four goals in a move forward on Saturday.
He has averaged 20 possessions and two a goals a game, being heavily tagged.
Swans player development officer Steve Thomson, who has run the house which has sometimes sheltered Garlett, said the AFL club that took Garlett would have "no regrets''.
"No one can lay a glove on him,'' Thomson said.
"And his kicking is elite.
"He makes the football talk.
"If he doesn't get drafted in his career, he will be the best player I've seen to never get drafted.''
Thomson says the 181cm speedster has settled down off the field, fuelling hope of a remarkable tale of redemption.
With the strong support of his girlfriend's family and the Swans Districts Football Club, the former party boy attends a personal trainer course four days a week.
He is sleeping regular hours and eating properly.
Thomson says he is helping teach other indigenous youngsters how to ``properly fuel their bodies''.
Garlett posted photographs of himself drinking alcohol and smoking cigarettes on social media in the lead-up to last year's national draft, which were published in a Western Australian newspaper.
But Garlett said he was serious about getting his act together.
"Definitely those off-field issues are gone and I'm making progress step-by-step,'' Garlett said.
"I'm studying and playing good footy, but it's not just on-field - it's off-field.''
Thomson said he wasn't surprised when Garlett was overlooked at last year's draft, but this season is shaping up differently.
"Missing out last year did hurt him and shake him up and you questioned whether he was going to go on with it (footy) or not.
"Pre-season started and he wasn't with us (at training) for a while, but the setback in the end was one that had to happen.
"It was a good call (from clubs overlooking him).
"Instead of getting him in the system, when he would probably have come straight back out, he will go in there a lot better prepared.
Thomson is convinced the run and carry machine would reward whichever club plucks him.
If the draft was tomorrow, Thomson was certain he would find an AFL home.
It is believed Hawthorn, St Kilda, Collingwood and Fremantle has showed the most interest in the past.
"Once someone does take that chance, they will have no regrets, '' Thomson said.
"He will chew up as much work as a club can put on his plate.
"The rest of things took time for him to mature and grow up a touch. To understand what direction he wanted to go in.
"His football can match anyone, it's just getting used to the day to day rigours of AFL-life that he has had to work on, but he definitely has showed he is on the right track.''
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/shunned-young-gun-dayle-garlett-says-he-is-a-changed-man-and-ready-for-afl-football/story-e6frf9jf-1226652508331
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Shame his head wasn't right, is clearly a talented kid. If he does manage to keep himself out of trouble, would love for us to get him, but another club would more than likely get in first. :banghead
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Give him a go
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Shame his head wasn't right, is clearly a talented kid. If he does manage to keep himself out of trouble, would love for us to get him, but another club would more than likely get in first. :banghead
Send Daniel Jackson and a kilo to Swan Districts as a sweetener
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Certainly saying all the right things in the article but it is easy to say the right things
Think we may have heard it before (actually the cynic in me says we did ;D)
But yep let's give him a go and then if things turn to "do-dos" everyone can blast the club for wasting another draft pick, can't develop indigneous kids nah make that we can't develop any kids etc etc
Hope he gets an opportunity, dont' think it will be with us but if it is then that's fine too. Not fussed one way or another
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I wouldn't care less if we picked him up and it failed, would show him up more than us.
But gee if he worked out...whoa.....this could be that X factor player we are after. Like Rioli....would love that!!!
Get it done Tiges... :gotigers
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Should be around at our pick #8
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Not first rounder. Anywhere after I couldn't care less, it's not like we have been good picks after our first anyway. Maybe it's time for one to work out for us :shh
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Should be around at our pick #8
You expecting a few more wins gerks? :shh
Last year I said this kid had to miss if he was ever going to make it in the AFL. Needed the kick in the balls to spur him on. It could have had a negative impact and he gave up but that would have shown he didn't want it. He's gone back and done everything to change everyone's minds now.
I also said at the time I'd be happy to pay a 1st/2nd rounder for him if he got himself straight this year. I think he'll be there at our 2nd rounder.
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Needed the kick in the balls to spur him on.
That generally spurs me on too, although not to play AFL football.
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Needed the kick in the balls to spur him on.
That generally spurs me on too, although not to play AFL football.
:lol
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no. too risky.
would rather re-rookie Lonergan :-X
Proven AFL standard player.
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no. too risky.
would rather re-rookie Lonergan :-X
Proven AFL standard player.
Is that you Dimma?
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I said well before the draft that we needed Garlett. The fact that we could have rookied him but didn't still rankles.
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no. too risky.
would rather re-rookie Lonergan :-X
Proven AFL standard player.
Is that you Dimma?
:banghead
Lonergan is VFL standard.
Rookie list D.Garlett :gotigers
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With the strong support of his girlfriend's family and the Swans Districts Football Club, the former party boy attends a personal trainer course four days a week.
He is sleeping regular hours and eating properly.
"I'm studying and playing good footy, but it's not just on-field - it's off-field.''
So when/if he gets drafted he will move away from his girlfriends family, personal trainer, study facility and supportive club and go into a more social environment of AFL.
Hmmmmm. IMO there are enough traps for any draftee to fall into without having prior form and a leaning towards a problem attitude.
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Who cares as long as he can play for crying out loud
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Would love for him to be rookied by us, developed by us and staring for us kicking bags of goals every week
Why not?
Unfortunately with our record with indigenous talent he'd be partying with Dusty in no time. And two talented careers will be ruined.
We can't be trusted with wayward players. It's not the other way around.
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I wouldn't care if he was on a bender till 3am every night, I'd still prefer him to Lonegan, Stephenson, Houli, Grigg, Knights or Derrickxzxzxzx.
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Yes definitely id save our 4th r pick for him :shh
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Unfortunately with our record with indigenous talent he'd be partying with Dusty in no time.
::)
We can't be trusted with wayward players. It's not the other way around.
Yep, let's keep drafting private school prefects, that's worked well for us :lol
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Definitely need an x factor at the club but agree with comments he will probably end up with another club.
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Use the top 10 pick we get for Nahas on him.
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Use the top 10 pick we get for Nahas on him.
A top 10 pick? More like Meal Deal #10
4 kebabs, a family pide, and a 1.25L bottle of fanta
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Use the top 10 pick we get for Nahas on him.
A top 10 pick? More like Meal Deal #10
4 kebabs, a family pide, and a 1.25L bottle of fanta
They still make Fanta?
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i know a bloke that has crates of the stuff past its best before in his shed
pm me if you want in
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This kid was touted as somewhere between 8 and 15 from memory last year and then slid and slid and slid. That was before he posted the piccy of himself with a bundy in one hand and a smoke in the other.
I was sure that Essendon would have rookied him - they brought him over to look at him before the PSD and rookie draft - alas the kid went on another 3am bender.
I probably would have rookied him last year but 18 clubs all said NO - that is saying something.
Having said that, he might be getting his head right and maturity improving. Unfortunately if his head/maturity is right, he will likely go to someone else before our pick.
Is he X factor and someone we needed, probably.
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i know a bloke that has crates of the stuff past its best before in his shed
pm me if you want in
Always wanted to be in a fanta club.
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Yes definitely id save our 4th r pick for him :shh
he wont last till our 4th round pick this yr.
hes doing everthing right atm and id be gobsmacked if he didnt go 2nd round.
we have taken a punt on a lot like him and almost every time its bitten us on the arse. i cant see us even looking at him even though hes exactly the type of player our midfield lacks.
depending on the talent left at our second pick id be tempted to give him a chance but only if he continues to show the want and discipline to succeed.
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Yes definitely id save our 4th r pick for him :shh
he wont last till our 4th round pick this yr.
hes doing everthing right atm and id be gobsmacked if he didnt go 2nd round.
we have taken a punt on a lot like him and almost every time its bitten us on the arse. i cant see us even looking at him even though hes exactly the type of player our midfield lacks.
depending on the talent left at our second pick id be tempted to give him a chance but only if he continues to show the want and discipline to succeed.
This. And if he's still there at our 3rd snap him up so fast that FJ might read out the wrong name he's in such a hurry. Dwayne Wilson is potentially just as good from SA. Otherwise Clayton McCartney reminds me a bit of Christensen and is almost certain to be there at 2nd/3rd round.
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This kid was touted as somewhere between 8 and 15 from memory last year and then slid and slid and slid. That was before he posted the piccy of himself with a bundy in one hand and a smoke in the other.
I was sure that Essendon would have rookied him - they brought him over to look at him before the PSD and rookie draft - alas the kid went on another 3am bender.
I probably would have rookied him last year but 18 clubs all said NO - that is saying something.
Having said that, he might be getting his head right and maturity improving. Unfortunately if his head/maturity is right, he will likely go to someone else before our pick.
Is he X factor and someone we needed, probably.
Last year he had a bigger wrap sheet than charlie sheen, i wouldn't invest to higher pic, perhaps 3 rounder, more likely to be gone by then, hard to think why demons or dogs wouldn't roll the dice with him
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Unfortunately with our record with indigenous talent he'd be partying with Dusty in no time.
::)
We can't be trusted with wayward players. It's not the other way around.
Yep, let's keep drafting private school prefects, that's worked well for us :lol
I'm not saying that I wouldn't love an a talented indigenous player in the team but I don't trust the club to be able to manage someone like him that's all. Would be more than happy if they were successful in developing someone just like him.
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They said on the podcast that FJ is gonna watch him play this weekend
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They said on the podcast that FJ is gonna watch him play this weekend
That'll just be a smokescreen for some middle of the road hack flanker for the 3rd round that FJ has his fine eyes all over :shh
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They said on the podcast that FJ is gonna watch him play this weekend
That'll just be a smokescreen for some middle of the road hack flanker for the 3rd round that FJ has his fine eyes all over :shh
:rollin
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No idea why but Francis "fine eyes" Jackson makes me cry with laughter. :lol
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Unfortunately the self report loophole has now been closed.
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Unfortunately the self report loophole has now been closed.
Yep, that not one club at all even bothered rookie listing him speaks volumes.
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Richmond have to consider picking this kid up. Belongs on an AFL list. Social issues or not, the kid is a star. Bagged 6 goals in the WAFL as a 19 year old and was seen as a top 10 pick last year.
Seems to be serious about his footy and wants a crack at AFL. Other than Edwards we don't have any AFL indigenous players and we seriously need some small forwards on our list.
Gartlett would fit really really nice in our best 22. If we picked up Ben Cousins with his issues, we can take this kid easily.
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Pope...there is already a thread for this kid mate..
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Pope...there is already a thread for this kid mate..
have merged the topics
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Thanks WP, I agree with you Pope, I think we need this kid and Frawley....
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Free lewis Jetta ...
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when did he get locked up?
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Pope...there is already a thread for this kid mate..
Apologies didn't see it
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If Liam Jurrah can clear up some of his issues I would bring him to Punt Road with a late pick in the National Draft. Put Jurrah next to Riewoldt - looks like a great set up to me.
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If Liam Jurrah can clear up some of his issues I would bring him to Punt Road with a late pick in the National Draft. Put Jurrah next to Riewoldt - looks like a great set up to me.
Give him a chop out?
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Richmond have to consider picking this kid up. Belongs on an AFL list. Social issues or not, the kid is a star. Bagged 6 goals in the WAFL as a 19 year old and was seen as a top 10 pick last year.
Seems to be serious about his footy and wants a crack at AFL. Other than Edwards we don't have any AFL indigenous players and we seriously need some small forwards on our list.
Gartlett would fit really really nice in our best 22. If we picked up Ben Cousins with his issues, we can take this kid easily.
Apparently went out on the pee after the game.
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If Liam Jurrah can clear up some of his issues I would bring him to Punt Road with a late pick in the National Draft. Put Jurrah next to Riewoldt - looks like a great set up to me.
you've got to be kidding ramps.
He is spiraling down hill real quick and is most probably about to be locked up.
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Needs to mature this kid. Can't go taking whiz and then telling everyone. Just get on a list, take any drugs you want and it won't matter because you can dob yourself in after a big one. Fair dinkum AFL footballers have it easy.
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Needs to mature this kid. Can't go taking whiz and then telling everyone. Just get on a list, take any drugs you want and it won't matter because you can dob yourself in after a big one. Fair dinkum AFL footballers have it easy.
Haven't they got rid of that rule?
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Needs to mature this kid. Can't go taking whiz and then telling everyone. Just get on a list, take any drugs you want and it won't matter because you can dob yourself in after a big one. Fair dinkum AFL footballers have it easy.
Mature or just get smarter about it? :shh
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If Liam Jurrah can clear up some of his issues I would bring him to Punt Road with a late pick in the National Draft. Put Jurrah next to Riewoldt - looks like a great set up to me.
you've got to be kidding ramps.
He is spiraling down hill real quick and is most probably about to be locked up.
Wasnt he acquitted months ago?
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If Liam Jurrah can clear up some of his issues I would bring him to Punt Road with a late pick in the National Draft. Put Jurrah next to Riewoldt - looks like a great set up to me.
you've got to be kidding ramps.
He is spiraling down hill real quick and is most probably about to be locked up.
Wasnt he acquitted months ago?
Up for other stuff now.
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If Liam Jurrah can clear up some of his issues I would bring him to Punt Road with a late pick in the National Draft. Put Jurrah next to Riewoldt - looks like a great set up to me.
you've got to be kidding ramps.
He is spiraling down hill real quick and is most probably about to be locked up.
Wasnt he acquitted months ago?
Up for other stuff now.
Yep got charged with assualting a woman, has only just been granted bail, was locked up for about a 4-6 weeks
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thats women, not woman.
facing time over that one
there was also the drink driving charge he was locked up for and subsequently pleaded guilty to ( from his cell) earlier in the year.
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thats women, not woman.
facing time over that one
there was also the drink driving charge he was locked up for and subsequently pleaded guilty to ( from his cell) earlier in the year.
Wasn't sure if it was more than one woman to be honest, didn't really pay much attention to it. Just thought there goes any chance of reviving your AFL career
He's certainly on a bit of a roll, seem to have a problem with the booze
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Get Garlett!!
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Is Troy Taylor mark 2. Pass.
I'll take Jeff Garlett and give Jako to Carlton and plonk Jeff into the forward pocket.
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Jeff Garlett is a part of Kane Lucas' potato farm. He's in charge of getting rid of the spuds that have gone a bit soft. :shh
If Dayle is available 2nd round yes please. He's not Troy Taylor at all.
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Playing well in the WAFL old Dayle. Not sure what Troy is doing, probably sitting in his mothers basement. If we draft Garlett then he needs to bring gear for everyone. We share the pain at Tigerland
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Dayle Garlett will be one of those blokes who will be a t a foooty club foe 3-4 yrs max.
First year gun
Second year some issues will surface that will make some ask questions.
Season 3 and 4 will be a shadow of the player in season one.
Season 5 new club and the cycle starts again.
Pass.
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What a load of of horse poo. Know the kid personally? Huge sweeping statement
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What a load of of horse poo. Know the kid personally? Huge sweeping statement
Do you? Anyway I don't for what it's worth but that's just a feeling I get. Needs to fully understand the opportunity he has missed out on and the rewards it provides for him.
If the kid was disciplined enough would have have been drafted by a club last year but alas the kid wasn't due to his attitude and whilst that should not keep him from getting drafted in the future at AFL level I believe given his prior misdemeanours he will not fi into the plans of what RFC need in terms of discipline and attitude right now.
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What a load of of horse poo. Know the kid personally? Huge sweeping statement
Do you? Anyway I don't for what it's worth but that's just a feeling I get. Needs to fully understand the opportunity he has missed out on and the rewards it provides for him.
If the kid was disciplined enough would have have been drafted by a club last year but alas the kid wasn't due to his attitude and whilst that should not keep him from getting drafted in the future at AFL level I believe given his prior misdemeanours he will not fi into the plans of what RFC need in terms of discipline and attitude right now.
It's a forum FFs, sweeping statements and broad assumptions is what we do best
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real genuine pace sublime footskills and footy smarts as well.we are screaming out for a mid like this kid.
hes still going well no trouble and is determined to prove a point.
have to say comparisons to jurrah are ludicrous. he was an 18 yr old who liked to party probably a bit too much and didnt have the maturity to say no or realise what sort of opportunity he was spurning.
we all mature at different times.
weather he works out on a list or not as long as we as a club do due diligence im all for us chasing this kid with a second rounder.
we will have a pick around 10 in the draft if this kid worked out it would be like having two top 10 picks.
at this stage id be over the moon if our first two picks went 1st rnd scharenberg, 2nd rnd garlett. just as long as we have done due diligence and are as certain as we can be that he really wants it bad and can see it thru.
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We could start tanking now and still not get Scharenberg. Agree with the rest. Garlett has copped his kick in the nuts and responded the right way. If he's there in the 2nd round grab him.
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:lol we have a bad loss where our poor attitude and inability to handle pressure shone through and the brains trust start screaming to get a kid that was overlooked in the drafts due to ill discipline and attitude.
like that will solve the problem ::)
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Get Garlett...and Frawley!!!!
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-clubs-want-another-look-at-dayle-garlett-with-the-talent-invited-to-the-national-draft-combine/story-fni5f22o-1226687488269
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get cloke...and buddy
....and hird...get em on the juice and off the grass.....
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Should be having a serious look at Dean Robinson :thumbsup
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Should be having a serious look at Dean Robinson :thumbsup
Info Gerks??
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AFL clubs want another look at Dayle Garlett with the talent invited to the national draft combine
Sam Landsberger
From: Herald Sun
July 30, 2013
DAYLE Garlett looks certain to find an AFL home with clubs queuing up to interview the reformed bad boy.
The man who was overlooked at last year’s drafts due to lifestyle issues is confident he can become a 200-game AFL player after continued brilliant WAFL form this season.
The Herald Sun can reveal Richmond, North Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane Lions and Fremantle have already spoken to the 19-year-old.
He was among 14 Indigenous players invited to the 98-man national draft combine, which will be held at Etihad Stadium in October.
Garlett wants to move to Melbourne and play in the AFL heartland next year. He is spending the week holidaying in Melbourne with his girlfriend.
"It’s a better lifestyle and there’s more opportunities. Melbourne’s a great place like Perth, my home,’’ he said yesterday.
The West Australian was rated a top-10 talent at last year’s draft but was overlooked after a 4am bender on the eve of the pre-season draft.
But those close to Garlett believe he has found stability in his life and are buoyed by the extra fitness he is completing
"I’ve spoken to a few clubs and it’s been positive stuff,’’ Garlett said.
"They tell me what they expect from me at the end of the year and to just keep going. I really want to be a guy that plays 200-odd AFL games, or even more.’’
The 180cm midfield ace has bagged 37 goals this season and was named All-Australian as an under-18 last year.
Garlett trained at Essendon in the lead-up to the pre-season draft and said that experience lit the fuse needed to get his life in order.
An AFL scout last night said Garlett was a "monty’’ to land at a club if he continues to stay out of trouble.
His impact at WAFL level was last year likened to Daniel Wells and Stephen Coniglio at the same age.
AFL clubs submit a list of 70 players they want to test at draft camp, with prospects needing five nominations to earn an invitation.
Garlett said he was "stoked’’ to learn yesterday he had won an invite.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-clubs-want-another-look-at-dayle-garlett-with-the-talent-invited-to-the-national-draft-combine/story-fnelctok-1226687488269
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So should we be keen on him we will have North and Brisbane that will have their picks before us to get him, if we want to use our first round pick for him...
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If he only really wants to play in Melbourne then maybe a chance between NM and Rich.
I'd want Williams to stay if we get this kid.
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Aren't we supposed to be looking a tall defenders? I think the swans game clearly showed we are well undersized down back. Resting ruckman will kill us every time until we do something about this.
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yep let's use all our picks on tall defenders
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yep let's use all our picks on tall defenders
Glad you agree. :thumbsup
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Would use no more than a 2nd rounder on him.
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Lookout - now that we've been interested Norf will surely get him.
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Would have though Norf's first rounder would be McDonald.
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Yep, and their second rounder will be for Nahas :shh
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Yep, and their second rounder will be for Nahas :shh
Worth 3 picks. One for each leg. :shh
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BF saying that apparently Richmond have zero interest in Garlett.
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Garlett was supposed to meet with Port officials last week. He didnt show with his WAFL club saying he wasn't well.
Read it in last weekends HUN or Age
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when this kid says hes got a girl friend, he means the girl friend has got him away from his immediate family to a large degree and away from the party and booze scene.
from what i can tell his mum and dad are both pee heads who like to party. he wants to get to melbourne where he wont have the family issues and pressure. melbourne would be a good place for him.
given his environment he has done exceptionally well to turn things around.
anyway thats my understanding of the situation. a lot of aboriginals have similar problems but cant say no to the rellies. seems dayle is still doing everything right.
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except, it seems, not showing up to meetings with interested clubs.
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Get him a house
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Is troy Taylor in the big house yet?
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If our club has any clue what we are doing then take a punt on this lad
I never want to see Edwards at our club again
Aboriginal imposter that spud
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Although i havent seen him play, I dont think he is worth the risk judging by the things I've read.
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If our club has any clue what we are doing then take a punt on this lad
And if by chance they did (they wont BTW) but if they did and it turned into another Troy Taylor scenario daniel
Would you sit back not bag the club for wasting a pick and say well done at least you took a punt on him or would you bag them unceremoniously for wasting a pick?
Reckon I have pretty good idea which it would be :rollin ;D
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I said take a punt if it doesn't cost you anything why not. He has played well at wafl level this year and provided hasn't gone back to the bottle I say nothing to lose. I mean we sign poo idiots like grigg on 3 yr deals so let's not talk about smart decisions from the RFC
We need a quality small forward.
Edwards is for the tip and should be traded
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I said take a punt if it doesn't cost you anything why not. He has played well at wafl level this year and provided hasn't gone back to the bottle I say nothing to lose. I mean we sign poo idiots like grigg on 3 yr deals so let's not talk about smart decisions from the RFC
We need a quality small forward.
Edwards is for the tip and should be traded
Define "if it doesn't cost you anything"?
First, 2nd or 3rd round pick? Rookie pick?
As I said the other week he was supposed to meet with Port recruiting folks when they were over there the other week, pre-planned meeting with him and his manager and he didn't show claiming to be "unwell" but his WAFL team wouldn't say what "unwell" meant
Based on that he isn't worth the risk
Troy Taylor was a late pick (50 odd for memory) so you can argue he cost us nothing but the way people carried on you'd think he'd been a wasted 1st round pick.
So as I said and define "if it doesn't cost you anything"?
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The kid can't get out of the goal square anymore. Lazy prick.
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I saw him and his entourage in the TAB on the weekend before the qualifying final he had to play.. coincidentally played very average.. isn't culture what AFL clubs heavily invest resources into though? Choc shaped Dusty up, i think with the talent Dayle could become he is worth the risk of a 2nd round pick.
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I said take a punt if it doesn't cost you anything why not. He has played well at wafl level this year and provided hasn't gone back to the bottle I say nothing to lose. I mean we sign poo idiots like grigg on 3 yr deals so let's not talk about smart decisions from the RFC
We need a quality small forward.
Edwards is for the tip and should be traded
Define "if it doesn't cost you anything"?
First, 2nd or 3rd round pick? Rookie pick?
As I said the other week he was supposed to meet with Port recruiting folks when they were over there the other week, pre-planned meeting with him and his manager and he didn't show claiming to be "unwell" but his WAFL team wouldn't say what "unwell" meant
Based on that he isn't worth the risk
Troy Taylor was a late pick (50 odd for memory) so you can argue he cost us nothing but the way people carried on you'd think he'd been a wasted 1st round pick.
So as I said and define "if it doesn't cost you anything"?
didnt know about that port thing. if its confirmed stuff him.
If not then 3rd round or rookie.
i dont know anything about the guy or if he has truly turned the corner, but WP we haven't had one descent since as long as i can remember.
gee i would love a Ballantyne or Milne at our club. Shane Edwards poor mans aboriginal.
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they are/were very good footballers. Throw in Walters too.
gee even gartlett is a better footballer than Edwards
Edwards must be traded if you ask me. We need to be bold and bring in some class and he is far from that with his 5 good games a year rubbish
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We got bigger problems than Shane Edwards. Imo
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didnt know about that port thing. if its confirmed stuff him.
If not then 3rd round or rookie.
i dont know anything about the guy or if he has truly turned the corner, but WP we haven't had one descent since as long as i can remember.
gee i would love a Ballantyne or Milne at our club. Shane Edwards poor mans aboriginal.
It was reported in one of the Sunday papers (can't remember which one) a couple of weeks back. Quoted Rhode (port's footy dept chief) and someone from his WAFL club confirming he was a know show. Rhode said Port wasn't happy
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didnt know about that port thing. if its confirmed stuff him.
If not then 3rd round or rookie.
i dont know anything about the guy or if he has truly turned the corner, but WP we haven't had one descent since as long as i can remember.
gee i would love a Ballantyne or Milne at our club. Shane Edwards poor mans aboriginal.
It was reported in one of the Sunday papers (can't remember which one) a couple of weeks back. Quoted Rhode (port's footy dept chief) and someone from his WAFL club confirming he was a know show. Rhode said Port wasn't happy
I heard he really wants to come to Victoria to play and as such he didn't want to show interest in Port.
Has been killing it in the WAFL this season.
Would be a handy player at the tigers.
Sometimes you have to role the dice with some of these players. Although I wouldn't use our first round pick, a second rounder isn't too far off the mark.
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I heard he really wants to come to Victoria to play and as such he didn't want to show interest in Port.
Has been killing it in the WAFL this season.
Would be a handy player at the tigers.
Sometimes you have to role the dice with some of these players. Although I wouldn't use our first round pick, a second rounder isn't too far off the mark.
not disputing he's been tearing it up in the WAFL. Have also read he'd prefer to come to Victoria
But that's not the point.
The fact remains he had scheduled meeting (organised by his own manager none the less) with recruiting people from an AFL club and he failed to show. Neither he or his manager gave an reason why he didn't show. They left that to his WAFL club to explain when the Port officials turned up at his WAFL club for the said meeting. Terrible look from a bloke who a month earlier was giving interviews to the media about how wasn't going to stuff his 2nd shot if it presented itself
Now considering all AFL clubs talk to one another and too a large degree they all know what each other is doing I would think it hasn't helped his cause to much, bad look
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I heard he really wants to come to Victoria to play and as such he didn't want to show interest in Port.
Has been killing it in the WAFL this season.
Would be a handy player at the tigers.
Sometimes you have to role the dice with some of these players. Although I wouldn't use our first round pick, a second rounder isn't too far off the mark.
not disputing he's been tearing it up in the WAFL. Have also read he'd prefer to come to Victoria
But that's not the point.
The fact remains he had scheduled meeting (organised by his own manager none the less) with recruiting people from an AFL club and he failed to show. Neither he or his manager gave an reason why he didn't show. They left that to his WAFL club to explain when the Port officials turned up at his WAFL club for the said meeting. Terrible look from a bloke who a month earlier was giving interviews to the media about how wasn't going to stuff his 2nd shot if it presented itself
Now considering all AFL clubs talk to one another and too a large degree they all know what each other is doing I would think it hasn't helped his cause to much, bad look
You are assuming one big thing WP.
Maybe he has been told not to show interest in anyone else by a certain club as he will be guaranteed a spot. :-X
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We got bigger problems than Shane Edwards. Imo
best hands since diesel hey bents :shh
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We got bigger problems than Shane Edwards. Imo
best hands since diesel hey bents :shh
If you dont think titch has magic hands you are blind
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Magic hands, midget's body
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We got bigger problems than Shane Edwards. Imo
best hands since diesel hey bents :shh
If you dont think titch has magic hands you are blind
That's why he should have been in the forward line more often this year, occasional rotation in the middle is fine look at how many goals he kicked this year compared to last?
Goals 2012 = 29
Goals 2013 = 11
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We got bigger problems than Shane Edwards. Imo
best hands since diesel hey bents :shh
If you dont think titch has magic hands you are blind
never said he didn't, but 2nd behind diesel? ::)
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You are assuming one big thing WP.
Maybe he has been told not to show interest in anyone else by a certain club as he will be guaranteed a spot. :-X
Well one would hope he hasn't received that sort of advice because that's called draft tampering by him and any club who in on the scam
Actually it's not a smart move on so any fronts. ;D
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1 - Greg Williams
2 - Sam Mitchell
3 - Shane Edwards
;)
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You are assuming one big thing WP.
Maybe he has been told not to show interest in anyone else by a certain club as he will be guaranteed a spot. :-X
Well one would hope he hasn't received that sort of advice because that's called draft tampering by him and any club who in on the scam
Actually it's not a smart move on so any fronts. ;D
It's only draft tampering if he says he refuses to go anywhere except a particular team. Players are not obliged to have to see any teams recruiting staff.
Happened with Josh Caddy the year before last. His management said he would only talk to Essendon. Put every other club off. Essendon just couldn't come up with the right deal in the end and he stayed the extra year at GC. Caddy was never punished.
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You are assuming one big thing WP.
Maybe he has been told not to show interest in anyone else by a certain club as he will be guaranteed a spot. :-X
Well one would hope he hasn't received that sort of advice because that's called draft tampering by him and any club who in on the scam
Actually it's not a smart move on so any fronts. ;D
It's only draft tampering if he says he refuses to go anywhere except a particular team. Players are not obliged to have to see any teams recruiting staff.
Happened with Josh Caddy the year before last. His management said he would only talk to Essendon. Put every other club off. Essendon just couldn't come up with the right deal in the end and he stayed the extra year at GC. Caddy was never punished.
Are you certain he didnt speak to other clubs?
;D ;)
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You are assuming one big thing WP.
Maybe he has been told not to show interest in anyone else by a certain club as he will be guaranteed a spot. :-X
Well one would hope he hasn't received that sort of advice because that's called draft tampering by him and any club who in on the scam
Actually it's not a smart move on so any fronts. ;D
It's only draft tampering if he says he refuses to go anywhere except a particular team. Players are not obliged to have to see any teams recruiting staff.
Happened with Josh Caddy the year before last. His management said he would only talk to Essendon. Put every other club off. Essendon just couldn't come up with the right deal in the end and he stayed the extra year at GC. Caddy was never punished.
Are you certain he didnt speak to other clubs?
;D ;)
Yes. Can remember his manager in an interview a few months later saying that at the time he told other clubs not to bother as Caddy wanted to go to Essendon. Certainly raised my eyebrows!
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You are assuming one big thing WP.
Maybe he has been told not to show interest in anyone else by a certain club as he will be guaranteed a spot. :-X
Well one would hope he hasn't received that sort of advice because that's called draft tampering by him and any club who in on the scam
Actually it's not a smart move on so any fronts. ;D
It's only draft tampering if he says he refuses to go anywhere except a particular team. Players are not obliged to have to see any teams recruiting staff.
Happened with Josh Caddy the year before last. His management said he would only talk to Essendon. Put every other club off. Essendon just couldn't come up with the right deal in the end and he stayed the extra year at GC. Caddy was never punished.
Are you certain he didnt speak to other clubs?
;D ;)
Yes. Can remember his manager in an interview a few months later saying that at the time he told other clubs not to bother as Caddy wanted to go to Essendon. Certainly raised my eyebrows!
Why because his manager said it? Never trust player managers ;) ;D
BTW think the rules are different for draftees than for players on lists when it comes daft tampering
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You are assuming one big thing WP.
Maybe he has been told not to show interest in anyone else by a certain club as he will be guaranteed a spot. :-X
Well one would hope he hasn't received that sort of advice because that's called draft tampering by him and any club who in on the scam
Actually it's not a smart move on so any fronts. ;D
It's only draft tampering if he says he refuses to go anywhere except a particular team. Players are not obliged to have to see any teams recruiting staff.
Happened with Josh Caddy the year before last. His management said he would only talk to Essendon. Put every other club off. Essendon just couldn't come up with the right deal in the end and he stayed the extra year at GC. Caddy was never punished.
Are you certain he didnt speak to other clubs?
;D ;)
Yes. Can remember his manager in an interview a few months later saying that at the time he told other clubs not to bother as Caddy wanted to go to Essendon. Certainly raised my eyebrows!
Why because his manager said it? Never trust player managers ;) ;D
BTW think the rules are different for draftees than for players on lists when it comes daft tampering
At the time, the manager had nothing to gain by coming out with this fact, so I doubt he made it up.
You might be right about different rules but I'm not sure.
I am sure that it is not draft tampering if you don't turn up for an interview. Proving that you didn't because another team told you they'd draft you would be impossible. Things like that happen all the time WP. They cannot be stopped.
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If we retain Choco then take a punt on the kid. Choco is the man to sort this kind of kid out IMO.
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Really think we should be going all out for this kid.......
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/coach-slams-rumours-about-exciting-west-australian-draft-prospect-dayle-garlett/story-fni5f22o-1226721153130
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Agree, but only way to get him is to draft him. I'm guessing he will be taken between our 1st and 2nd pick, and to be honest RFC probably is not interested :banghead
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Agree, but only way to get him is to draft him. I'm guessing he will be taken between our 1st and 2nd pick, and to be honest RFC probably is not interested :banghead
Tigers have already said their not interested
Really think we should be going all out for this kid.......
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/coach-slams-rumours-about-exciting-west-australian-draft-prospect-dayle-garlett/story-fni5f22o-1226721153130
Was an interesting read.
Good to see his coach sticking up for him. But it would be good if his coach explained why he didn't show at that interview with Port. "He wasn't well" doesn't cut it.
Also, think the kid needs to understand that it's not just about his footy there are other things that clubs are weary of, have concerns about and he needs to address them with clubs. Not showing for an interview does damage rather than help
Can I also say I am not sure exactly having to tell your mates you didn't get drafted was a massvie kick in the guts :huh
Clearly I am getting old
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tigers wouldnt know how to develop an aboriginal kid so best we pass him.
Since Michael Mitchell we have had no one yet we house that centre
if buddy came over who knows how he would've ended up.
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tigers wouldnt know how to develop an aboriginal kid so best we pass him.
Since Michael Mitchell we have had no one yet we house that centre
if buddy came over who knows how he would've ended up.
The Institute has nothing to do with developing footballers daniel
It's about helping in the development of indigenous youth regarding life not football.
The 2 are very different things
But you are right about our ability over the last 5-8 years to develop indigenous footballers
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if this kid was so keen to come to victoria he should have shown initiative by moving over here himself and playing with a VFL side.
That is the sort of thing that would help convince recruiters he has grown up.
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Not easy to just move like that Big Gay Al.
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Not easy to just move like that Big Gay Al.
pack the car, google "Centrelink Melbourne", and hit the highway
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he could move into troy taylors house
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Someone should pass old Scooby Roberts number on to him.. i am sure he would let him sleep under the same bridge
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Not easy to just move like that Big Gay Al.
no its not for many, but neither is playing footy at the highest level
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he could move into troy taylors house
:lol :clapping
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if this kid was so keen to come to victoria he should have shown initiative by moving over here himself and playing with a VFL side.
That is the sort of thing that would help convince recruiters he has grown up.
Crap! The WAFL has produced some absolute legends! Why move until he is drafted, not even relevant!
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it is very relevant, if you took the time to read what the kid has said.
we are not talking, in way at all, about the standard of the local competitions and their ability to produce quality footballers.
That is the irrelevant part, of which no one but you has bought the discussion.
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You are assuming one big thing WP.
Maybe he has been told not to show interest in anyone else by a certain club as he will be guaranteed a spot. :-X
Well one would hope he hasn't received that sort of advice because that's called draft tampering by him and any club who in on the scam
Actually it's not a smart move on so any fronts. ;D
Its an interesting thought, if one of the better\richer teams, say West Coast had approached him then as a player I'd be tempted to knock back\ignore a few other offers. Given we know how much off field spend matters to success, I'd hate to get drafted by the Dogs, Port or Melbourne and right at the moment it seems Brisbane are back to their Bad News Bears days.
On so many levels as a player it matters. You get better medical care, better coaching, you become a better player, you have better players around you, from a purely mercenary point of view it makes a huge amount of sense.
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if we talk pure talent alone any club would be crazy to overlook him.
so obviously clubs are concerned about attitude and probably more important the ability to see it thru for the long haul.
personally on talent alone id give up a first rounder for him.
imo he has shown thru actions that he is prepared to knuckle down and change his attitude. the one risk that remains is if the going gets tough will he see it thru.
for a club like us. yes a club like us who in recent yrs have been burnt big time by a lot of kids with suspect attitude if you like i can understand why we would give it a miss.
thing is you do have to weigh up the reward v risk side of things especially with a kid who has worked so hard to redeem himself.
for me the question is not to take him but how much of a risk are we prepared to take to get him. you know im certain this kid will be less work than dusty. imo he will thrive in the right environment.
we just cant ignore such talented players for no other reason than we have been burnt in the past.
without a doubt if he was there at 46 you would take him. its probably borderline to take him at 28 but if we were to attain a pick at say 35 id have no hesitation in useing it having already used a second round pick.
i wont go on i know people get sick to death of the long winded posts. all i say is give him, a chance having weighed up the risk reward factors.
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i wont go on i know people get sick to death of the long winded posts. all i say is give him, a chance having weighed up the risk reward factors.
Nice self editing as well Claw, and I agree a late 2nd rounder / early 3rd rounder is around about the equilibrium in risk/reward balance.
Big decision for RFC is whether it wants 2 volatile personalities of Martin & Garlett on the list simultaneously, as I am reassured that the club now has appropriate personell structures and resources to manage these guys.
Both have elite talent, and just may be the catalyst for a sustained top 4 tilt.
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Need a quality small forward. King is not the future.
Worth taking a punt for sure IMO.
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3rd rounder IMO. 2nd rounder seems just a little bit to much of a stretch
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http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-02/garlett-set-for-second-chance
Worth a second rounder IMHO.
At least we know he can play and has speed and can kick a goal.
Do it tiges!
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yes we need to bolster the list somehow 'outside the box' to gain / go past our rivals
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http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-02/garlett-set-for-second-chance
Worth a second rounder IMHO.
At least we know he can play and has speed and can kick a goal.
Do it tiges!
Don't think he is on the Tigers radar let alone their Stat Nav ;D
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http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-02/garlett-set-for-second-chance
Worth a second rounder IMHO.
At least we know he can play and has speed and can kick a goal.
Do it tiges!
Yes, good bump, get it done!
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richmond get it wrong sometimes ....
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richmond get it wrong sometimes ....
They do, we need a classy small forward. I guess they are damned if they do, damned if they don't.
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richmond get it wrong sometimes ....
They do, we need a classy small forward. I guess they are damned if they do, damned if they don't.
we have one in mcdonough. wouldnt hurt to get another just in case he doesnt work out.
in the short term bring a quality proven one for nothing in chapman. a bloke who wont only fix the sml forward role but add heaps to our midfield.
idea;ly this would allow us to cut both king and nahas with white already gone. unfortunately we saw fit to renew kings contract what a shame. :o
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richmond get it wrong sometimes ....
They do, we need a classy small forward. I guess they are damned if they do, damned if they don't.
we have one in mcdonough. wouldnt hurt to get another just in case he doesnt work out.
in the short term bring a quality proven one for nothing in chapman. a bloke who wont only fix the sml forward role but add heaps to our midfield.
idea;ly this would allow us to cut both king and nahas with white already gone. unfortunately we saw fit to renew kings contract what a shame. :o
i was disappointed in Donuts first game. he was no where near it in terms of quickness of the game. Lets hope he has a big preseason and develops further.
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not the first and wont be the last kid struggling with the pace of the game in their first, though Ramps
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we have one in mcdonough. wouldnt hurt to get another just in case he doesnt work out.
in the short term bring a quality proven one for nothing in chapman. a bloke who wont only fix the sml forward role but add heaps to our midfield.
idea;ly this would allow us to cut both king and nahas with white already gone. unfortunately we saw fit to renew kings contract what a shame. :o
We need an indigenous small forward. Neither Chapman nor McDonuts fits that bill
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We need an indigenous small forward. Neither Chapman nor McDonuts fits that bill
We need a small forward whether indigenous or not...it doesnt matter.
One of the best small forwards of the modern era was not indigenopus - he had other issues though - Milne.
BTW lots of clubs are interested in Garlett - including the tigers. He definately is on the tigers radar, sat nav, gps.
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Must be black
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BTW lots of clubs are interested in Garlett - including the tigers. He definately is on the tigers radar, sat nav, gps.
He is? Wasn't the word in the room at the B&F on Monday night ;D
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BTW lots of clubs are interested in Garlett - including the tigers. He definately is on the tigers radar, sat nav, gps.
He is? Wasn't the word in the room at the B&F on Monday night ;D
Who advised we were/were not interested in him Tigger/WP?
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Definitely need a classy small forward. Some of the best small forwards in the business are of indigenous heritage. Believe we should seek an indigenous small forward.
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Who advised we were/were not interested in him Tigger/WP?
I think I was speaking to one of the water boys, not the most reliable of folks :rollin :rollin
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Definitely need a classy small forward. Some of the best small forwards in the business are of indigenous heritage. Believe we should seek an indigenous small forward.
:thumbsup
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Just get him. What's the worst that could happen? He may ask for a house.
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Just get him. What's the worst that could happen? He may ask for a house.
:lol
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whats the word on garlett? Is he likely to be drafted by someone? I heard his wafl coach went in to bat for him in a big way about a month ago.
and for those in WA, whats his form been like?
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Who advised we were/were not interested in him Tigger/WP?
I think I was speaking to one of the water boys, not the most reliable of folks :rollin :rollin
This chutney sissy finally revealed. a trainer :lol
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whats the word on garlett? Is he likely to be drafted by someone? I heard his wafl coach went in to bat for him in a big way about a month ago.
and for those in WA, whats his form been like?
"What followed was an outstanding 2013 season, in which the left-footer booted 48 goals and averaged 16 disposals a game, polling a club-high 24 Sandover Medal votes."
Is that what you wanted to know? Not bad for a teenager.
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whats the word on garlett? Is he likely to be drafted by someone? I heard his wafl coach went in to bat for him in a big way about a month ago.
and for those in WA, whats his form been like?
"What followed was an outstanding 2013 season, in which the left-footer booted 48 goals and averaged 16 disposals a game, polling a club-high 24 Sandover Medal votes."
Is that what you wanted to know? Not bad for a teenager.
cheers YaBB, that's pretty impressive from the kid after the disappointment of last year.
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whats the word on garlett? Is he likely to be drafted by someone? I heard his wafl coach went in to bat for him in a big way about a month ago.
and for those in WA, whats his form been like?
"What followed was an outstanding 2013 season, in which the left-footer booted 48 goals and averaged 16 disposals a game, polling a club-high 24 Sandover Medal votes."
Is that what you wanted to know? Not bad for a teenager.
cheers YaBB, that's pretty impressive from the kid after the disappointment of last year.
Thanks. Sometimes in life you have to take a few risks. This guy might go the way of Troy Taylor BUT his upside is huge. Fills an obvious void in our team - the classy left foot small speedy goal kicker. Can at the very least double our indigenous representation at dreamtime! ;D
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definitely is a list need that's for sure
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Who advised we were/were not interested in him Tigger/WP?
I think I was speaking to one of the water boys, not the most reliable of folks :rollin :rollin
This chutney limpgot finally revealed. a trainer :lol
lol
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Absolutely worth the risk.
It's the Fevola types that are old enough to know better and beyond redemption you avoid and apply "no d!ckheads" policies to. Most idiots under 25 are still a good chance to grow out of their stupid ways.
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Who advised we were/were not interested in him Tigger/WP?
I think I was speaking to one of the water boys, not the most reliable of folks :rollin :rollin
This chutney limpgot finally revealed. a trainer :lol
:lol :lol :lol
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This chutney limpgot finally revealed. a trainer :lol
So so wrong but nice try :laugh:
If I had been speaking to chutney about garlett I would have said so. ;D
Chutney wasn't at the B&F ;)
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Yeah I know who Chutney is chief. Pretty average that he gives out this info. He should be told to zip it
Loose lips sink ships
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Yeah I know who Chutney is chief. Pretty average that he gives out this info. He should be told to zip it
Loose lips sink ships
:rollin :rollin :rollin
You haven't a clue who chutney is Coach
No clue at all :rollin
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Yeah I know who Chutney is chief. Pretty average that he gives out this info. He should be told to zip it
Loose lips sink ships
:rollin :rollin :rollin
You haven't a clue who chutney is Coach
No clue at all :rollin
And how would you know that, Bill? I think we can all agree Chutney is a fag. For those who want to know who Chutney is, flick me a PM
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And how would you know that, Bill? I think we can all agree Chutney is a limp. For those who want to know who Chutney is, flick me a PM
Thnk what you like about Chutney but I can guarantee you that you have no idea who chutney is :rollin
Here's a challenge for you Coach why don't you PM me and tell me who Chutney is; I'd love to know ;D
:dogdance :dancing :veryhappy :fencing :fencing
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I think Coach is sulking because you scolded him :lol
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I think Coach is sulking because you scolded him :lol
It is well known I have that effect on people :rollin
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Why would you want me to PM you, Bill? If I have no idea who he is then you shouldn't need me to. Chutney is of no importance, much like yourself these days. You might have connections but WGAF. It wasn't hard to find out who your buddy is.
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Why would you want me to PM you, Bill? If I have no idea who he is then you shouldn't need me to. Chutney is of no importance, much like yourself these days. You might have connections but WGAF. It wasn't hard to find out who your buddy is.
Ouch :rollin :rollin
:jump :jump
And thank you Coach, no need for a PM now ;D
:dancing :dancing
;) :) :)
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Why are you hiding behind smilies like a muppet? So now there's no need for a PM. :lol Don't worry, I didn't reveal your boyfriends name
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Why are you hiding behind smilies like a muppet? So now there's no need for a PM. :lol Don't worry, I didn't reveal your boyfriends name
I am smiling because you failed the challenge and because you are implying you know something that you haven't got a clue about :rollin :rollin
Gotta smile
;D ;D
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What challenge :lol :rollin
:chuck
Those with info shouldn't leak it. Loose lips sink ships.
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Get Garlett!
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Get Garlett!
REPORTED
For interrupting WP and Coach's bitch fight, show some respect even if you are from WA
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Get Garlett!
REPORTED
For interrupting WP and Coach's bitch fight, show some respect even if you are from WA
:lol, but I live in QLD.... ;D
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So while our footy department remains divided as we umm and arrr whether we go for him, the reigning premiers are all over it
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/hawthorn-eyes-exciting-west-australian-dayle-garlett/story-fni5f22o-1226751807813 (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/hawthorn-eyes-exciting-west-australian-dayle-garlett/story-fni5f22o-1226751807813)
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Yeah well....we will miss out again. This is the small forward we have all been crying out for, for years... and freaking years.
We should of traded Edwards for a top 20 draft pick and nabbed him with that....FFS.... :banghead
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Yeah well....we will miss out again. This is the small forward we have all been crying out for, for years... and freaking years.
We should of traded Edwards for a top 20 draft pick and nabbed him with that....FFS.... :banghead
Yeah, like the biggest dud on our list is worth a top 20 pick :lol :lol :lol
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Yeah well....we will miss out again. This is the small forward we have all been crying out for, for years... and freaking years.
We should of traded Edwards for a top 20 draft pick and nabbed him with that....FFS.... :banghead
Yeah, like the biggest dud on our list is worth a top 20 pick :lol :lol :lol
I know.. :thumbsup....I walked into that one.... ;D....wishful thinking!!
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Hawthorn are very smart
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Yeah well....we will miss out again. This is the small forward we have all been crying out for, for years... and freaking years.
We should of traded Edwards for a top 20 draft pick and nabbed him with that....FFS.... :banghead
Yeah, like the biggest dud on our list is worth a top 20 pick :lol :lol :lol
You see this is where your mistaken
Edwards can improve our pick enabling us to pick up guys like this or Adams
As Mrakov said hawks are a very smart football club, much smarter than us
We don't have a small forward lets be honest
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If he was still around at pick 58, yep, go for it, certainly wouldn't gamble a 1 or 2 rounder on him he s going to have some work to do acclimatizing to the big smoke :shh
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If he was still around at pick 58, yep go for it, certainly wouldn't gamble a 1 or 2 rounder on him he s going to have some work to do acclimatizing to the big smoke :shh
looking forward to bringing this comment up when garlett starts making an impact, while we are keeping with the tried and tested spuds of edwards and co. mate king is finished and edwards is rubbish. we havent had a good crumber since god knows when.
wouldnt gamble a second rounder on him? disagree i say he is worth a second, if it came from trading out edwards who i dont rate at all and would be glad to see the back of.
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but we dont have a second round pick to gamble ;D
I get the impression he will be a high maintenance player, initially anyway.
can we afford another high maintenance player, particularly if we lose choco?
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No, consume way too much time
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I reckon if we lose choco..get the bloke who manages high maintenance players better than anyone in the league...K sheedy
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If he was still around at pick 58, yep go for it, certainly wouldn't gamble a 1 or 2 rounder on him he s going to have some work to do acclimatizing to the big smoke :shh
looking forward to bringing this comment up when garlett starts making an impact, while we are keeping with the tried and tested spuds of edwards and co. mate king is finished and edwards is rubbish. we havent had a good crumber since god knows when.
wouldnt gamble a second rounder on him? disagree i say he is worth a second, if it came from trading out edwards who i dont rate at all and would be glad to see the back of.
this post shows you haven't watched him much.
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I'm not referring to his footy ability, more his ability to become an elite athlete
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If Taylor was worth the risk at pick 51 when our list was bare bones then surely Garlett at pick 50 now we're in fairly good shape is even moreso.
I reckon if we lose choco..get the bloke who manages high maintenance players better than anyone in the league...K sheedy
You mean the same bloke who's made it his life's work since 1981 to undermine & destabilise RFC at every opportunity?
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Get him Richmond ! He's just what we freeking need damn you
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Greg Miller would've taken him last year ! Ffs
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If he was still around at pick 58, yep go for it, certainly wouldn't gamble a 1 or 2 rounder on him he s going to have some work to do acclimatizing to the big smoke :shh
looking forward to bringing this comment up when garlett starts making an impact, while we are keeping with the tried and tested spuds of edwards and co. mate king is finished and edwards is rubbish. we havent had a good crumber since god knows when.
wouldnt gamble a second rounder on him? disagree i say he is worth a second, if it came from trading out edwards who i dont rate at all and would be glad to see the back of.
this post shows you haven't watched him much.
Watched who be specific.
Edwards?
Unlike probably you I watched him closely for the last 7 years and mr potential is our answer to a small forward as what mcguane is to the lions
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If he was still around at pick 58, yep go for it, certainly wouldn't gamble a 1 or 2 rounder on him he s going to have some work to do acclimatizing to the big smoke :shh
looking forward to bringing this comment up when garlett starts making an impact, while we are keeping with the tried and tested spuds of edwards and co. mate king is finished and edwards is rubbish. we havent had a good crumber since god knows when.
wouldnt gamble a second rounder on him? disagree i say he is worth a second, if it came from trading out edwards who i dont rate at all and would be glad to see the back of.
this post shows you haven't watched him much.
Watched who be specific.
Edwards?
Unlike probably you I watched him closely for the last 7 years and mr potential is our answer to a small forward as what mcguane is to the lions
Gartlett's worth would be different to most teams. My view is he'd be worth a second round pick for us. The reality for RFC this year is that the following players debuted for the RFC this year:
Arnott, Vlastuin, McDonogh. Other than Flossy, the other two played 3 or 4 games between them. The players who were drafted in the last three/ four years who didn't get a game, or a regular spot in the 22: McBean, MacIntosh, Elton, Griffiths, Helbig, Batchelor, Dea, Astbury, Derickx and O'Hanlon. That is also not including rookie listed players. My point is that now, our list is very settled, and the result is that young players are not going to be gifted games, or play a lot of games. So what happens if we take Gartlett and he becomes a distraction and gets axed (like say Connors or MacDonald)? It doesn't majorly impact our youth stocks much at all. It would be different say 2 or 3 seasons ago when there would have been an expectation that someone selected at the later picks would still be likely to play an AFL game in the short term at some point. Thats not changed. I'm all for taking Gartlett, putting him on a tight behavioural leash.
In saying all that, I believe there is some sitautions that Gartlett has found himself in the last couple of years which were not reported in the media but widely known about in AFL circles which were extremely detrimental to his draft position.
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If he was still around at pick 58, yep go for it, certainly wouldn't gamble a 1 or 2 rounder on him he s going to have some work to do acclimatizing to the big smoke :shh
looking forward to bringing this comment up when garlett starts making an impact, while we are keeping with the tried and tested spuds of edwards and co. mate king is finished and edwards is rubbish. we havent had a good crumber since god knows when.
wouldnt gamble a second rounder on him? disagree i say he is worth a second, if it came from trading out edwards who i dont rate at all and would be glad to see the back of.
this post shows you haven't watched him much.
Watched who be specific.
Edwards?
Unlike probably you I watched him closely for the last 7 years and mr potential is our answer to a small forward as what mcguane is to the lions
This is the Garlett thread is it not? I presumed as a Richmond fan you would watch Edwards each week. ;D
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If he was still around at pick 58, yep go for it, certainly wouldn't gamble a 1 or 2 rounder on him he s going to have some work to do acclimatizing to the big smoke :shh
looking forward to bringing this comment up when garlett starts making an impact, while we are keeping with the tried and tested spuds of edwards and co. mate king is finished and edwards is rubbish. we havent had a good crumber since god knows when.
wouldnt gamble a second rounder on him? disagree i say he is worth a second, if it came from trading out edwards who i dont rate at all and would be glad to see the back of.
this post shows you haven't watched him much.
Watched who be specific.
Edwards?
Unlike probably you I watched him closely for the last 7 years and mr potential is our answer to a small forward as what mcguane is to the lions
This is the Garlett thread is it not? I presumed as a Richmond fan you would watch Edwards each week. ;D
apologies then, i misunderstood.
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i breckon he will go in the top 30 could go top 20.
pick 28 come 32 would be handy to have right now.
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Could go be around by our third pick
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i breckon he will go in the top 30 could go top 20.
pick 28 come 32 would be handy to have right now.
doubt it would've made any difference.
He will go before then.
Bombers no small forward will be next in line if hawks don't with their first pick.
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based on what?
sounds exactly like last year lmao
"will be gone by our second pick :banghead"
nek minnut
good luck to the kid anyway
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Could go be around by our third pick
Could be....may not be
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So people are prepared to take him with all the baggage?..we have one player who takes up a lot of resources to keep in line,certainly don't need to tax those resources to the limit with another,no matter what his brilliance is or might be
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Martin is a tosser
But he can play a bit ..
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Its interesting to note that over the past few months both Dimma and Richardson have talked about getting people of character to the club. Would that include people like Garlett?
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How many people with good football ability and character going to be left at 50 and 70?
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Lets see how many are indeed left that late.Didnt james Hird go in the 70s?
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Its interesting to note that over the past few months both Dimma and Richardson have talked about getting people of character to the club. Would that include people like Garlett?
G when they said character, I don't they meant the Cartoon variety. ;D
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Lets see how many are indeed left that late.Didnt james Hird go in the 70s?
What year was injection Jim drafted?
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Not sure Bents..
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i think the draft has become more 'scientific' since 1990
the chance of finding a gun @ 79 is less likely than 23 years ago
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How many people with good football ability and character going to be left at 50 and 70?
From 2010 draft (long enough to be sure and time to develop)
70 Duigan
76 Seedsman
85 Garlett
87 Barlow
91 Blair
97 Jaensch
100 De Boer
101 Pyke
106 Howlett
109 Silvagni
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Bents if the draft selection process has become more scientific ,wouldn't it be easier to find gems in the draft if you do your homework?
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What I'm getting at if there's a James hird type
Chances are he will go top ten
Where as 20 years ago he might have gone more unnoticed in comparison to today
who knows i could be wrong. wouldnt be the first time
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no, i think you are right bents. as the clubs have got better with their drart processes, the strike rate for top 20 or so has improved, which means the number of good players slipping has decreased.
How many people with good football ability and character going to be left at 50 and 70?
From 2010 draft (long enough to be sure and time to develop)
70 Duigan
76 Seedsman
85 Garlett
87 Barlow
91 Blair
97 Jaensch
100 De Boer
101 Pyke
106 Howlett
109 Silvagni
thats only 10 from 39, and even then, it is still a subjective appraisal
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How many people with good football ability and character going to be left at 50 and 70?
From 2010 draft (long enough to be sure and time to develop)
70 Duigan
76 Seedsman
85 Garlett
87 Barlow
91 Blair
97 Jaensch
100 De Boer
101 Pyke
106 Howlett
109 Silvagni
how many of those are state league recruits. this is what i go on about with late nd and rookie picks. do you use say pick 75 on a skinny u18 kid who has slipped to pick 75 because of obvious deficiencies, and the records show us they spend two yrs on a list and invariably fail. or do you use that pick on a bloke who has good attributes to play afl and has done well at the next best level down. usually a bloke who carves up a whole bunch of late u18 picks yr in yr out.
last yr i wanted us to use a late pick on kyle martin. jack hannath was another martin at age 21 22 was still a junior as was hannath. martin great skills sominated against men do you use your 4th rounder on a young player like him or on the deficient 18yr old. habbath just 21 a baby in ruck terms but he performed real well against men great attributes to become a decent afl ruckman.
i think there is a right time and place to go either way, the trick is getting it right.
im in the camp where i think top 50 picks are becomeing more and more precise after that it depends on the drafts depth and the availability of good state leaguers.
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I count 4 state league guys of which 2 are poo house and one is pretty ordinary. Though I do agree with the concept that we need to do better in this area.
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Do people still want to recruit this guy?
There are stories circulating he's not turning up for club interviews
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i see he did great in the phantom draft
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Ok judge whats the final ruling on this guy?....yay or nay
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id take at good look @ 2nd or 3rd pick, for sure
most definitely if he was available in the rookie draft.
Waters Mckenzie Glass
Hurn Schofield Yeo
Masten Priddis Wellingham
Lecra Darling - Garlett
Hill Kennedy Cox
Natanui Selwood Shuey
Gaff Rosa - Cripps - Thorp
Em: Ellis lycett
He fits into WCE starting 22 quite nice.
We have lose White, Nahas. while I am no expert Garlett appears to be a similar type yet with more ability.,
We need as much of an edge as possibile IMO. to become a top four club continually.
i reckon we look to look 'outside' the box to get as many potential top 20 draft talents as possible - the list needs to not only keep up with over clubs but go past them. How do we do this?. We already have gansters like Martin, Ellis. One more wont hurt.
if he needs a 'father' we have Mark choco Williams
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Get him second pick
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Get him second pick
Agreed, nothing to lose. Paid the same for Taylor in a supposedly stronger draft and this kid's at least twice as talented.
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Get him second pick
Agreed, nothing to lose. Paid the same for Taylor in a supposedly stronger draft and this kid's at least twice as talented.
Anyone got mail on when he will go?
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if he's twice as talented as taylor then he's a potential dead set superstar of the game.
The only comparison that matters with taylor though, is his attitude and likelihood of becoming a long term player.
If it true that he cant even be bothered to turn up to interviews with clubs it seems his attitude is along the lines of taylor, which means a bust.
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perhaps Dayle has been inspired by the alan richardson method of gaining employment
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Get him second pick
Agreed, nothing to lose. Paid the same for Taylor in a supposedly stronger draft and this kid's at least twice as talented.
Anyone got mail on when he will go?
North Melbourne made early contact but recruiting experts believe Hawthorn, who Garlett supports, has long held the most serious interest.
It's been an improved 2013 for Garlett, but by no means perfect.
Again, he has failed to front to some interviews and many clubs believe he is more likely to go bust than boom.
But nearly every club spoke to him this year and, while most have again put a line through his name, some feedback was positive.
"They tell me they're interested or they wouldn't be meeting me,'' said Garlett, who is still training strongly.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/dayle-garlett-says-hes-matured-and-ready-for-an-afl-listing-most-likely-with-hawthorn-but-will-one-come-at-thursdays-draft/story-fnelctok-1226761699401#mm-breached
Apparently we're not interested.
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If the club's not interested, then their due diligence is good enough for me. Will be keeping an eye on him should another club pick him though.
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if hes there at pick 50 surely hes worth taking a punt on.im with greg harding hes not done a thing wrong other than miss an interview since the kick in the arse of not being drafted.
i think as a club we have shown we can handle so called trouble makers a edwards, cousins, polak, and martin. yes we have had some misses over the yrs with indigenous kids but just because you fail once or tewice does it mean you stop trying.
in all honesty i couldnt give a fat rats arse when it comes to what they do off field as long as its within the law.
the only criteria id have is he stays out of trouble he continues to train hard and playing senior footy his major goal. all the rest is just media codswallop and political correctness.
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Get Garlett... ;D
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its got nothing to do with political correctness, its about having the strength of character to make the grade.
The days of talented footballers going about it half arsed and getting by on talent alone are long gone. Even when those days were with us there were plenty of blokes who ended up in the wasted talent basket.
I know its hard for naturally talented sportsmen to comprehend, but the reason why some players with limitations go on to play 100+ games while others with much more talent fade into oblivion is due to whats between their ears.
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If the club's not interested, then their due diligence is good enough for me. Will be keeping an eye on him should another club pick him though.
We did a lot of homework on him. Definitely was considered thoroughly.
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I understand your sentiments al
But the other extreme is picking plodders, lonergan. Thomas...
When will the days of targeting blokes with the right stuff mentally but seemingly talentless
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i think as a club we have shown we can handle so called trouble makers a edwards, cousins, polak, and martin.
and Ralph Carr ;D
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By the sounds of things this bloke can turn water into wine, divide by zero and touch MC Hammer.
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Typical Richmond
Will be gone by our second pick
This kid is like Harley benell on crack
Puuuuuufffffffffffff Puuuuuufffffffffffff pick
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Should've got him with pick 1000 last year
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Most clubs now don't want to be forced to be 24/7 babysitters of what are meant to be young adults and use up club resources worrying about one player at the expense of the rest of the list. As al has said, the days of getting drafted on natural talent alone as gone.
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If anyone doubts how important it is that we draft a very good small forward one day have a look at one of the best we have ever had. We have not had a very good small forward since this bloke, I used to love it when the ball went near him. I would love to pick up Garlett and have him doing what this bloke did. At the end of the day though, eventually, we need to draft a small forward capable of doing it the way this bloke did. King is ok but not as electrifying and Nahas had one good year, other than that he was a waste.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-05-06/where-are-they-now-chris-naish
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Most clubs now don't want to be forced to be 24/7 babysitters of what are meant to be young adults and use up club resources worrying about one player at the expense of the rest of the list. As al has said, the days of getting drafted on natural talent alone as gone.
Well he will get picked up and your theory will be wrong
Hawks most likely will pick em up, if not many other suitors ready to pounce
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Darks have a spare minder twiddling his thumbs after Buddy has left. They are getting Garlett to step into that vacant position.
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If anyone doubts how important it is that we draft a very good small forward one day have a look at one of the best we have ever had. We have not had a very good small forward since this bloke, I used to love it when the ball went near him.
The best we've ever had ? Not had a very good small forward since Naish ? Geez don't we like to glorify the past. Naish was an ok player. Had a good year in 95 and that's about it really. All downhill from there.
Anyhows , I'll see your Chris Naish and raise you a Nathan Brown.
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Looks like he won't last long in the draft but I would have been happy if we picked him up (not with our first pick of course).
Saw his highlights. Looks like he's worth the risk.
We desperately need a small forward...
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If anyone doubts how important it is that we draft a very good small forward one day have a look at one of the best we have ever had. We have not had a very good small forward since this bloke, I used to love it when the ball went near him.
The best we've ever had ? Not had a very good small forward since Naish ? Geez don't we like to glorify the past. Naish was an ok player. Had a good year in 95 and that's about it really. All downhill from there.
Anyhows , I'll see your Chris Naish and raise you a Nathan Brown.
Now read my post again please, actually read it please..."ONE OF THE BEST"!!!!!!! Nathan Brown was not a small forward, we recruited him as a midfielder/forward...Naish had a few more better years than just 95!!
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For a short time, Nathan Brown was comfortably the best player in the AFL. He was a magician. He is easily thr best small forward since KB ended his career on a HFF.
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That would be 2005. I remember I was 16 and my dad picked me up from my GF's house. Asked him how the footy went. Lost to Melbourne he said. NB broke his leg. Ruined my night massively....
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NBrown was #1 player in the game when be broke his leg
Carrying an average team to 7-2
Averaging a shyte load of goals and disposals
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Most clubs now don't want to be forced to be 24/7 babysitters of what are meant to be young adults and use up club resources worrying about one player at the expense of the rest of the list. As al has said, the days of getting drafted on natural talent alone as gone.
Well he will get picked up and your theory will be wrong
Hawks most likely will pick em up, if not many other suitors ready to pounce
And what happens if he doesn't work out? There are no guarantees here to suggest it workout with Garlett so to suggest otherwise is..well... foolish.
Just say we did pick him up (and I don't care if they do & ditto if they don't), it doesn't work out and he ends up being like the Troy Taylor experiment. Who will you blame? The Club or the player?
Hawks had Carl Peterson for a time, people on here bagged our Club about letting him go because he played a handful of good games for the Hawks. Then low & behold the Hawks ended up flicking him too.... for the same reasons we did
As I said there are no guarantees and it doesn't matter who the club is
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Donuts. 8)
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A 2005 version of N.Brown for 2014 would be awesome !
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Now read my post again please, actually read it please..."ONE OF THE BEST"!!!!!!! Nathan Brown was not a small forward, we recruited him as a midfielder/forward...Naish had a few more better years than just 95!!
Yeh I read it fine.' One of the best'. Well , no he wasn't.
As for Nathan Brown not being a small forward , well , I don't even know what to say to that comment but I'll try this... Nathan Brown was one of the best SMALL FORWARDS in the AFL for the past 30 years.
Anyhow back to Garlett. We just have to trust the RFC on this one. If all the other clubs pass on him I'd hope that we do too.
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We took Cuz and he was high risk. We were also a rabble at that time. I would've thought we are in a good position to take Garlett.
He's not gonna go out and snort coke with Dusty lol. Calm down people. If he's still around when our second pick is up I'd be disappointed if we didn't pull the trigger.
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Most clubs now don't want to be forced to be 24/7 babysitters of what are meant to be young adults and use up club resources worrying about one player at the expense of the rest of the list. As al has said, the days of getting drafted on natural talent alone as gone.
Well he will get picked up and your theory will be wrong
Hawks most likely will pick em up, if not many other suitors ready to pounce
And what happens if he doesn't work out? There are no guarantees here to suggest it workout with Garlett so to suggest otherwise is..well... foolish.
Just say we did pick him up (and I don't care if they do & ditto if they don't), it doesn't work out and he ends up being like the Troy Taylor experiment. Who will you blame? The Club or the player?
Hawks had Carl Peterson for a time, people on here bagged our Club about letting him go because he played a handful of good games for the Hawks. Then low & behold the Hawks ended up flicking him too.... for the same reasons we did
As I said there are no guarantees and it doesn't matter who the club is
suppose it comes down to which pick hawthorn use on him. pick 58 is worth risking on garlett imo.
at this pick taking any other kid is a risk lets say talent wise.
if hawthorn use 58 on another kid it is more likely to fail than succeed thats the hard reality. theres no guarantees.
the risk with garlett is not skills but supposedly attitude there are no guarantees. at pick 58 its a risk either way so for me it then becomes an issue of risk / reward.
with any other kid its a high risk for likely low reward. if he makes it and its a big if hes likely only going to be a decent player at best.
with garlett its still high risk but bloody hell if he makes its high reward because of his skillset.
as for the baysitter comments of some. if they took the time to find out what the kids done the last 12months they would see there are no babysitters. hes done it all off his own back if anything hes shown a real desire to succeed.
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Most clubs now don't want to be forced to be 24/7 babysitters of what are meant to be young adults and use up club resources worrying about one player at the expense of the rest of the list. As al has said, the days of getting drafted on natural talent alone as gone.
Well he will get picked up and your theory will be wrong
Hawks most likely will pick em up, if not many other suitors ready to pounce
And what happens if he doesn't work out? There are no guarantees here to suggest it workout with Garlett so to suggest otherwise is..well... foolish.
Just say we did pick him up (and I don't care if they do & ditto if they don't), it doesn't work out and he ends up being like the Troy Taylor experiment. Who will you blame? The Club or the player?
Hawks had Carl Peterson for a time, people on here bagged our Club about letting him go because he played a handful of good games for the Hawks. Then low & behold the Hawks ended up flicking him too.... for the same reasons we did
As I said there are no guarantees and it doesn't matter who the club is
troy taylor and Peterson didn't kick 50 goals in the WAFL after his career threatened to be taken away from him.
They were both rubbish from day 1 on the field and between the ears. This guy has potential and clubs have shown they are willing to take risks if it doesn't cost them much
we don't have any descent smalls(kingy is just about done) and he is a risk worth taking. I would've rather the tigers have taken a punt on him than 30 for graham.
Mrakov he wont be around that pick mate. Gone by pick 30 is a given
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Most clubs now don't want to be forced to be 24/7 babysitters of what are meant to be young adults and use up club resources worrying about one player at the expense of the rest of the list. As al has said, the days of getting drafted on natural talent alone as gone.
Well he will get picked up and your theory will be wrong
Hawks most likely will pick em up, if not many other suitors ready to pounce
And what happens if he doesn't work out? There are no guarantees here to suggest it workout with Garlett so to suggest otherwise is..well... foolish.
Just say we did pick him up (and I don't care if they do & ditto if they don't), it doesn't work out and he ends up being like the Troy Taylor experiment. Who will you blame? The Club or the player?
Hawks had Carl Peterson for a time, people on here bagged our Club about letting him go because he played a handful of good games for the Hawks. Then low & behold the Hawks ended up flicking him too.... for the same reasons we did
As I said there are no guarantees and it doesn't matter who the club is
troy taylor and Peterson didn't kick 50 goals in the WAFL after his career threatened to be taken away from him.
They were both rubbish from day 1 on the field and between the ears. This guy has potential and clubs have shown they are willing to take risks if it doesn't cost them much
we don't have any descent smalls(kingy is just about done) and he is a risk worth taking. I would've rather the tigers have taken a punt on him than 30 for graham.
Mrakov he wont be around that pick mate. Gone by pick 30 is a given
We probably wouldn't take him if he was anyway ::)
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Definitely not if matt Thomas I'd available :shh
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as for the baysitter comments of some. if they took the time to find out what the kids done the last 12months they would see there are no babysitters. hes done it all off his own back if anything hes shown a real desire to succeed.
1/ Yes his "desire to succeed" was evident when he didn't show at a scheduled meeting with Port Adelaide officials mid season and he gave no reason as to why. He left the excuse making to his club who couldn't give a definite answer
2/ To a point it depends on what you're definition of "babysitting" is exactly? You'll find his WAFL club gave him a lot of support this season both on and off field. Yes he's had an attitude shift but don't think for a moment there wasn't support around him.
3/ I've said I we were take a chance on him, it wouldn't worry me = great. If we chose not to then that's fine as well. But to suggest that selecting this kid doesn't come with some sort of risk of it possibly failing is as naive at best
troy taylor and Peterson didn't kick 50 goals in the WAFL after his career threatened to be taken away from him.
They were both rubbish from day 1 on the field and between the ears. This guy has potential and clubs have shown they are willing to take risks if it doesn't cost them much
Taking taylor out of the equation & let's just look at Carl Peterson; your argument becomes flawed
Peterson had his AFL career taken away from him when Richmond cut him. He went back to various leagues, played and played well enough for a top 4 side in the Hawks to show interest. He & his partner had a family, he got himself a job and he had supposedly settled down.
He was then picked up by Hawthorn as rookie getting gifted a 2nd chance. He got promoted, played AFL again and everyone said how could Richmond flick this kid? By seasons end Hawthorn a supposedly strong club that can handle all types of players including wayward ones gives him the flick as well; for the same reason the RFC did.
He was a rick the first time and clearly the 2nd time
Garlett may turn out to be a model player, do all the right things and kudos to him if he does. it will be a great story
But to think that just becuase he's kicked 50 odd goals in the WAFL and missed out on the draft last year that it's all going to be perfect is as I said before foolish. He is a risk
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Why do you continue with the peterson comparison? Cause both are black?
My undetstanding he was never considered ad a potential top ten draft prospect - unlik DayleGarlett
Hence the analogy is not apt
Pretty much everyone outside the #1 pick appears to have some level of risk.bow many kids that were so highly drafted in their draft pool, proven at only 19 in the state league are options? Very few. Not peterson
He doesn't need to become a model player. This notion of footballers being model citizens for th masses to look up to is rubbish IMO.
All I care about is will he contribute as a starting 18/22 player - help this club win a flag. I couldn't. Are less about how privacy
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Dayle Garlett is not black he's tanned
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Why do you continue with the peterson comparison? Cause both are black?
My undetstanding he was never considered ad a potential top ten draft prospect - unlik DayleGarlett
Hence the analogy is not apt
Pretty much everyone outside the #1 pick appears to have some level of risk.bow many kids that were so highly drafted in their draft pool, proven at only 19 in the state league are options? Very few. Not peterson
He doesn't need to become a model player. This notion of footballers being model citizens for th masses to look up to is rubbish IMO.
All I care about is will he contribute as a starting 18/22 player - help this club win a flag. I couldn't. Are less about how privacy
Why not? and BTW colour has nothing to do with it.
And you are missing my point (again)
Their circumstances are similar.
Both have/had supposedly settled down with families, were working, played in comps where they could get noticed. One was given a 2nd chance at AFL footy and blew it. It was a risk to take Peterson and despite playing good footy at AFL his inability to show enough dedication to being an AFL footballer cost him.
Would you like me to use another player for comparison. How about Mitch Thorp; he was a top 10 draft pick. He got selected blew his chance by not showing the aplication required, taking things for granted (his own admission) and now 2-3 years after being cut by the Hawks he is inline for a possible 2nd chance. Is there any risk in taking him? Absolutely, so clubs will be weighing up that risk just like they are with Garlett
I am not disputing for one minute that Garlett has had a sensational season in the WAFL. I am not disputing that it appears on the surface that the "penny has dropped" and he now understands to make it in the AFL he needs to be dedicated, talent alone isn't going to get him anywhere. Though his no show at a scheduled interview with Port officials makes you question whether he does completely get it
BTW what I mean by "model player" is a player who gets to training on time, in a fit state to train, does all the hard work to ensure they get the best out of themselves and gives their best to their club. It should be a given not an exception
Which again brings me to my point - to suggest as someone people on here have that in 2014 there is no risk associated in drafting Dayle Garlett because of his obvious natural talent is foolish & naive. There is a risk just like there is for anyone who may get a 2nd chance or is a late draft pick
So I will repeat it all for one final time:
If the RFC decide to draft Dayle Garlett I will be happy to have him at our club. If they've already chosen not to then I accept that too. If we miss out on him because someone else takes him before we have a chance too, then that's the way it goes, we move on and welcome the newbies we draft
Can I make it any clearer?
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Why do you continue with the peterson comparison? Cause both are black?
My undetstanding he was never considered ad a potential top ten draft prospect - unlik DayleGarlett
Hence the analogy is not apt
Pretty much everyone outside the #1 pick appears to have some level of risk.bow many kids that were so highly drafted in their draft pool, proven at only 19 in the state league are options? Very few. Not peterson
He doesn't need to become a model player. This notion of footballers being model citizens for th masses to look up to is rubbish IMO.
All I care about is will he contribute as a starting 18/22 player - help this club win a flag. I couldn't. Are less about how privacy
as the discussion is about player's attitudes and how that affects their chances of becoming a long term player, the analogy is very apt.
its not about whether they are model citizens, it about whether they have the strength of character and commitment to knuckle down and do the hard work required to make the grade.
someone who doesnt have their life in order outside of football is decreasing their chances of this happening
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so he missed one interview for what ever reason. i say what ever reason because no one knows why he missed it. maybe he just got the jitters or maybe he just didnt want to end up in adelaide, maybe he just got the dates wrong who knows.
so he missed one interview and its cause to ignore all the hard work hes done in the last 12 months not just on the footy field but off it.
on field he could do no more, hes been great. his work ethic and willingness to do extra to improve himself has been enormous. his improvement in this area is highlighted by the vastly improved draft camp times and figures he produced. a lot of improvement came from a program he devised off his own bat in his own time. his willingness to train and work is surely not in question.
as for off field its been widely acknowledged hes settled down got a girlfriend given up on no hopers and while still having a beer doing it at the right time and place and with the right type of people.
there is little more he could do off field except maybe not miss that interview. but hey hes missed it so lets hang draw and quarter him for it. lets basically ignore everything else hes done.
i will say it again at pick 58 is his attiude a greater risk than say the lack of skills another kid will bring at that pick. ffs just look at our record with these types of picks so waht if he doesnt work out id say hes a better chance of making it than any kid we would take at a similar pick. hes certainly shown every inclination and desire to do what has to be done.
the risk reward factor says we really should be giving this kid a chance we would be taking no bigger chance on failure than we would if we took another kid here.
so one kid fails because he has too many deficiencies in his game the other failds because he might still have an attitude problem even though hes done most things to say otherwise.if both fail at that pick what have you lost. if both make it what do you gain.
its like the nay sayers with a edwards he got drunk when he should not have but was always a hard worker. buddy franklin would never ever have been drafted if people took note of the party boy he was the thing is buddy always was willing to work on his game and do the hard yrds garlett imo is no different. edwards and buddy had to learn when to party and nwhen not to id say garlett has shown hes learnt that harsh lesson.
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so he missed one interview for what ever reason. i say what ever reason because no one knows why he missed it. maybe he just got the jitters or maybe he just didnt want to end up in adelaide, maybe he just got the dates wrong who knows.
so he missed one interview and its cause to ignore all the hard work hes done in the last 12 months not just on the footy field but off it.
on field he could do no more, hes been great. his work ethic and willingness to do extra to improve himself has been enormous. his improvement in this area is highlighted by the vastly improved draft camp times and figures he produced. a lot of improvement came from a program he devised off his own bat in his own time. his willingness to train and work is surely not in question.
as for off field its been widely acknowledged hes settled down got a girlfriend given up on no hopers and while still having a beer doing it at the right time and place and with the right type of people.
there is little more he could do off field except maybe not miss that interview. but hey hes missed it so lets hang draw and quarter him for it. lets basically ignore everything else hes done.
i will say it again at pick 58 is his attiude a greater risk than say the lack of skills another kid will bring at that pick. ffs just look at our record with these types of picks so waht if he doesnt work out id say hes a better chance of making it than any kid we would take at a similar pick. hes certainly shown every inclination and desire to do what has to be done.
the risk reward factor says we really should be giving this kid a chance we would be taking no bigger chance on failure than we would if we took another kid here.
so one kid fails because he has too many deficiencies in his game the other failds because he might still have an attitude problem even though hes done most things to say otherwise.if both fail at that pick what have you lost. if both make it what do you gain.
its like the nay sayers with a edwards he got drunk when he should not have but was always a hard worker. buddy franklin would never ever have been drafted if people took note of the party boy he was the thing is buddy always was willing to work on his game and do the hard yrds garlett imo is no different. edwards and buddy had to learn when to party and nwhen not to id say garlett has shown hes learnt that harsh lesson.
Firstly the interview with Port Adelaide was to be in Perth, while the Power was there. He didn't need to travel anywhere.
Simple fact is he didn't show and he didn't have the courtesy to inform them he wasn't going to be there. Not the way to treat a prospective employer. Not a great reflection on his attitude.
You are correct no one knows why he didn't show because he refused today - again rightly or wrongly not a good look from someone who is seeking a 2nd chance
Secondly, I haven't disputed what he has done this year in the WAFL because it isn't in dispute. But for to suggest that clubs should not consider all his actions this year including missing that interview iand only look at the on filed isn't IMHO going to happen and nor should it.
Also, suggest you read my entire post have said so many times have no problem if we draft him, just didn't think anyone should ignore the fact it is a risk as all late picks
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Need Garlett, the guy below or some guy that represents a small forward, maybe a garden gnome... ;D
Sam Lloyd (Frankston, 23, 182cm, 82kg): an excitement package from top to toe: likes nothing better than submitting contenders for mark and goal of the year. Regularly succeeded on both counts. Kicked 38 goals from 17 games (and a century of goals for Deniliquin in 2010) in his first season swimming with the Dolphins.
Paul Amy has done a write up of all the potential draftees out of the VFL:
http://www.news.com.au/national/academy-coach-predicts-up-to-10-vfl-players-will-take-the-next-step-into-afl/story-e6frfkp9-1226762741599#mm-breached
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Firstly the interview with Port Adelaide was to be in Perth, while the Power was there. He didn't need to travel anywhere.
Simple fact is he didn't show and he didn't have the courtesy to inform them he wasn't going to be there. Not the way to treat a prospective employer. Not a great reflection on his attitude.
He was actually at the venue so he kinda showed up. He just wasn't in a state to be interviewed so the club had to make up excuses for him. ::) But yeah he's learnt his lesson :lol :lol :lol :lol
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:lol
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Jay Clark on Twitter says that the Hawks won't take Garlett at 24
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Fartlett :clapping
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Jay Clark on Twitter says that the Hawks won't take Garlett at 24
Gunning for Zac Merrett I believe.
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Get him with our 2nd pick
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Interestingly, the 2 perth clubs have ruled out drafting him.
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Get him with our 2nd pick
He will be gone by pick 30
We will prob use our second pick on that gun Thomas
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Get him with our 2nd pick
He will be gone by pick 30
We will prob use our second pick on that gun Thomas
Hawks aren't taking him. Might be available
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Word is hawthorn wants Matt 'cotchin' Thomas @ 24 :shh
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Word is hawthorn wants Matt 'cotchin' Thomas @ 24 :shh
How many cofees have you had this morning ?
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2 /3
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2 /3
Good stuff
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Interestingly, the 2 perth clubs have ruled out drafting him.
So now have both Adelaide clubs ...
Adelaide has ruled out taking Dayle Garlett tomorrow night, with Adelaide recruiting manager, David Noble saying
"There's no doubting his talent but talent not everything,"
"We've had a close look at him but when you defy a player you're looking at the whole package - not just talent - and we've got some doubts about him."
Port Adelaide casted interest in Garlett, however did not front up to a scheduled interview with the Power due to sickness.
The Power have also ruled out taking Garlett.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews/posts/225867374254165
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I reckon we'll have the opportunity to get him
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"There's no doubting his talent but talent not everything,"
"We've had a close look at him but when you defy a player you're looking at the whole package - not just talent - and we've got some doubts about him."
Obviously they are not reading claws views on him.
Why do these recruiting people continue to ignore the experts.
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Sam lonergan clearly has less lose screws
A true professional
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he probably has, and was.
no one has control over how much talent they have, but they do have control over whether they get the most out what talent they have.
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If he is there at pick 50, grab him I think, he has just as much chance of making it or not as an unknown at that pick. At least with Garlett he has proved on field he has what it takes, an unknown hasn't proven either.....would be happy to take the risk!!
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A club that takes him should be confident they have the leaders, structures and psych in place so that any player with issues or doubts can come in to learn and improve as an individual and team-mate. I'd like to think that with choco still at Punt Road we have the right tools to straighten out any creases in his attitude. The club will have the troy taylor drama in the back of their minds though. You'd think that they'd have done massive homework on this guy if he does end up at tigerland. Personally I'd like to see him picked up. Has an x factor that we miss in our fwd pocket/flanks and will take a bit of media heat away from dusty.
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hawks have been in contact with him consistently throughout this season, they have done their due diligence. If they decide to pass on him that's good enough for me.
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I woukd not be treating the people that selected Mitch thorp over Joel selwood as Gospel
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I woukd not be treating the people that selected Mitch thorp over Joel selwood as Gospel
lol aye they aren't perfect, but I still place a fair bit of trust in their decision making processes - they are the most successful club of the past 40 years
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so he missed one interview for what ever reason. i say what ever reason because no one knows why he missed it. maybe he just got the jitters or maybe he just didnt want to end up in adelaide, maybe he just got the dates wrong who knows.
so he missed one interview and its cause to ignore all the hard work hes done in the last 12 months not just on the footy field but off it.
on field he could do no more, hes been great. his work ethic and willingness to do extra to improve himself has been enormous. his improvement in this area is highlighted by the vastly improved draft camp times and figures he produced. a lot of improvement came from a program he devised off his own bat in his own time. his willingness to train and work is surely not in question.
as for off field its been widely acknowledged hes settled down got a girlfriend given up on no hopers and while still having a beer doing it at the right time and place and with the right type of people.
there is little more he could do off field except maybe not miss that interview. but hey hes missed it so lets hang draw and quarter him for it. lets basically ignore everything else hes done.
i will say it again at pick 58 is his attiude a greater risk than say the lack of skills another kid will bring at that pick. ffs just look at our record with these types of picks so waht if he doesnt work out id say hes a better chance of making it than any kid we would take at a similar pick. hes certainly shown every inclination and desire to do what has to be done.
the risk reward factor says we really should be giving this kid a chance we would be taking no bigger chance on failure than we would if we took another kid here.
so one kid fails because he has too many deficiencies in his game the other failds because he might still have an attitude problem even though hes done most things to say otherwise.if both fail at that pick what have you lost. if both make it what do you gain.
its like the nay sayers with a edwards he got drunk when he should not have but was always a hard worker. buddy franklin would never ever have been drafted if people took note of the party boy he was the thing is buddy always was willing to work on his game and do the hard yrds garlett imo is no different. edwards and buddy had to learn when to party and nwhen not to id say garlett has shown hes learnt that harsh lesson.
Firstly the interview with Port Adelaide was to be in Perth, while the Power was there. He didn't need to travel anywhere.
Simple fact is he didn't show and he didn't have the courtesy to inform them he wasn't going to be there. Not the way to treat a prospective employer. Not a great reflection on his attitude.
You are correct no one knows why he didn't show because he refused today - again rightly or wrongly not a good look from someone who is seeking a 2nd chance
Secondly, I haven't disputed what he has done this year in the WAFL because it isn't in dispute. But for to suggest that clubs should not consider all his actions this year including missing that interview iand only look at the on filed isn't IMHO going to happen and nor should it.
Also, suggest you read my entire post have said so many times have no problem if we draft him, just didn't think anyone should ignore the fact it is a risk as all late picks
id suggest wp you read the entirety of both my posts you have replied to. selectively targeting only the bits that suit your argument doesnt wash with me.
we now know why he didnt ront he was sick yes he should have let port know he wasnt coming.
you dont dispute what hes done on field but it seems like your totally ignoring the 99% good that hes done off field.
no where have i said clubs should ignore him missing that interview but they should also look at what hes done off field to improve himself. going by what his coach tells us hes been a model citizen a model player and one missed interview should not cancel that out.
most people dont even acknowledge just how well behaved hes been in aspects of his life off field. thats a shame. god knows what would happen to people like him if they actually did something wrong instead of acting like a teenager. all i can say those without fault cast the first stone.
finally all ive basically said in my last few posts is hes no more of a risk than any other kid at pick 58. the difference is we know hes got the talent to make it. our last pick is #56 ??? id have no hesitation in useing it on garlett. if he fails he fails the kid we take there is probably more likely to fail. risk reward wp. as ive stated garlett if you like is high risk but high reward if it works out. a kid at 58 is high risk and most likely low reward regardless.
its funny people ignore the comments of those most in the know his coaches. people ignore the massive amount of work and thus improvement hes put in for what ever reason. people ignore his exemplary behavior off field and latch onto one minor mistake as justification to send him to purgatory. why to drive their own agenda or opinion. at pick 56 there is little doubt hes worth taking the risk on. ffs we have the last live pick in the draft most people on here have been telling me those type of picks are worthless anyway. so whats to lose.
finally someone asked why freo and wce are not interested. its simple all of the disruptive influences this kid will encounter are in wa including some family. the best thing that can happen to garlett is getting away from those influences. there are some people who are sure he will thrive in an environment like melbourne. even with those disruptive influences hes shown an ability to work hard stay out of trouble and do the right thing.
anyway we all have our opinions ive made mine pretty clear i reckon sooner or later this yr two yrs time this kid will be on a afl list.
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id suggest wp you read the entirety of both my posts you have replied to. selectively targeting only the bits that suit your argument doesnt wash with me.
Feel exactly the same, hence why I suggested you re-read my entire post because you only seem to have taken on board the "negative" comments I made.
we now know why he didnt ront he was sick yes he should have let port know he wasnt coming.
you dont dispute what hes done on field but it seems like your totally ignoring the 99% good that hes done off field.
no where have i said clubs should ignore him missing that interview but they should also look at what hes done off field to improve himself. going by what his coach tells us hes been a model citizen a model player and one missed interview should not cancel that out.
With respect, I haven't disputed what he has done off the field but the most important thing for him to do I would think is to show up for scheduled meetings or at least have courtesy to explain why? He didn't do that, he left to others that shouldn't be and cannot be ignored. It is actually inexcusable. And to simply say he was sick but then refuse to say what this "sickness" was again is not a good look. Raise more questions rightly or wrongly about his character and his commitment to wanting to be an AFL player
I would expect his actions regarding the Port "incident" will have far greater influence over the AFL community than all the spruiking his coaches do on his behalf. Clearly it already has seeing 4 clubs have already said they wont take him.
Read all the comments made by the TAC Cup side managers etc and you will find they talk up all their players. Garlett's coaches are no different and you would hope that would be the case
most people dont even acknowledge just how well behaved hes been in aspects of his life off field. thats a shame. god knows what would happen to people like him if they actually did something wrong instead of acting like a teenager. all i can say those without fault cast the first stone.
When it's all said and done how do we really know how well behaved he has been or any other player in draft has been for that matter.
I have acknowledged that he has appeared to have gotten his life away from footy in order and good on him
My point has always been and TBH I don't know how many times I have to repeat it is that for people to suggest that taking this kid or any other kid looking for a 2nd chance after blowing their first chance isn't a risk is being naive
finally all ive basically said in my last few posts is hes no more of a risk than any other kid at pick 58. the difference is we know hes got the talent to make it. our last pick is #56 ??? id have no hesitation in useing it on garlett. if he fails he fails the kid we take there is probably more likely to fail. risk reward wp. as ive stated garlett if you like is high risk but high reward if it works out. a kid at 58 is high risk and most likely low reward regardless.
Claw again read what I have written not once but twice, I have no problem if we draft him, happy if we do and I will be the first to wish him every success and welcome to the RFC. But if we don't I am not going to jump up and down and say we've made a mistake. I will simply welcome to whoever we select and hope they succeed.
its funny people ignore the comments of those most in the know his coaches. people ignore the massive amount of work and thus improvement hes put in for what ever reason. people ignore his exemplary behavior off field and latch onto one minor mistake as justification to send him to purgatory. why to drive their own agenda or opinion. at pick 56 there is little doubt hes worth taking the risk on. ffs we have the last live pick in the draft most people on here have been telling me those type of picks are worthless anyway. so whats to lose.
Again re-read my posts in their entirety, I haven't sent the kid to purgatory. I have raised a concern about his actions regarding trying to get drafted, that was IMO a bad choice. I don't see how not being prepared to ignore it is wrong
I have said I have no problem if we draft. Don't think I can make it any clearer
But in relation to the bit I've highlighted. You've been "driving your agenda and opinion" on this and that's acceptable but because my opinion is the opposite to yours it is somehow not acceptable? Isn't having an opinion and discussing/debating what a forum like this is about? We don't have to all agree
anyway we all have our opinions ive made mine pretty clear i reckon sooner or later this yr two yrs time this kid will be on a afl list.
Agree we all have opinions and we are all entitled to voice them without it being considered some sort of agenda
The one thing I don't agree with you is in "two years time". I believe if he doesn't get drafted this year then he wont in the future, I think this is most likely his final chance. Not saying it's right, wrong, fair or unfair just think that's the way it is
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wp on the last on reflection you could be right.
theres no probs here mate and i do understand where your coming from. i think the part where your calling people naieve is getting up my goat a bit call it petty if you like.
i thinkl we all agree on and know the risks i dont think anyone is being naieve.
also i dont believe we are actually that far apart on this but for sure and certain i think this kids situation way different to say troy taylor.
i reckon hes more akin to franklin a bit of a lad and certainly in need of role models direction and boundarys. given these things i think he has the right, how to put it?? mind set if you like to make it.
id like to see him given a chance if not at richmond at another club i reckon he will reward whoever takes him.
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Lucky some of you guys weren't selectors for Australia in the 1940s and 1950s. Keith Miller would never have been selected for Australia and none of us would have seen one of the greatest allrounders ever.
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probably wouldn't take a risk we have failed in probably our last couple of aboriginal players taylor, Roberts who had a bit of a wild side about them.
But times have changed and maybe choco Williams could be the man to get garletts head right like anything in life its a gamble if it pays off then we will be saying what a recruit and if it fails we will all be jumping up and down saying why did we waste a pick on him...
In honesty he probably wont be around buy the time our 2nd pick comes up..
GO U TIGERS
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hawks have been in contact with him consistently throughout this season, they have done their due diligence. If they decide to pass on him that's good enough for me.
They didn't pass on him. We now know why he didn't bother turning up to those interviews .
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Bang hawks very smart footy club get him at 38
They will make a fool out of your comments Albert, in fact I think they already have
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He still has a lot to prove yet.
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yep they've taken a risk and pulled the trigger and why wouldn't you when you've just won your 2nd flag in 5-6 years?
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I think the Hawks were the side that passed over Pavlich 8 times
Learnt their lesson
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yep they've taken a risk and pulled the trigger and why wouldn't you when you've just won your 2nd flag in 5-6 years?
What's the risk? According to some experts on here picks after 30 are mostly duds
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Will force Riolol out of their best 22. lol
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Will force Riolol out of their best 22. lol
Pretty good cover or foil for rioli
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Now I hope he mucks up. stuff Hawthorn.
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I think the Hawks were the side that passed over Pavlich 8 times
Learnt their lesson
Tack left, tack right, a fat chute here a fat bunt there.......
Hard to see a sea louse from up above when you claim to soar like a gravy bird
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glad to see him get a chance. now the ball is well and truly in his court. i hope he doesnt stuff it up or bloody hell am i going to cop it around here. :pray
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17 clubs will have egg on their face when he wins the norm smith
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:'( really wanted this kid, will kick 10 against us!
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OUR RECRUITERS do seem a bit scared to take a chance.
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:'( really wanted this kid, will kick 10 against us!
Please. Morris will rip his titties off
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:'( really wanted this kid, will kick 10 against us!
Please. Morris will rip his titties off
Garlett will be another small forward like Milne, Betts even way back to Matera and Farmer that cut us to shreads.....oh well... :banghead
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Rioli to Richmond
Out of contract end of 2014
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Rioli to Richmond
Out of contract end of 2014
Arsebury for Rioli. Grow some balls Tiges ::) :banghead
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Garlett is gonna end up like that Taylor poo we turfed, wgaf
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OUR RECRUITERS do seem a bit scared to take a chance.
Yep - once bitten, a hundred times shy.
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OUR RECRUITERS do seem a bit scared to take a chance.
agree its not just about taking a chance on the kids themselves but it seems they are constantly pulling the trigger early almost in fear that a player they like will be taken so we take em early.
this is a legirt criticism of our club in recent times. fjs record is so poor with 2nd 3rd 4th rounders no wonder he was so happy to take mature players this yr. trouble is he again took em early.
bloody hell just one 18 yr old in the entire trade and nd period.
with a 26yo two 24 yo a nd 1 18 yo the only conclusion is we are locked and loaded i for one will be judging them as such.
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OUR RECRUITERS do seem a bit scared to take a chance.
Maybe the fact that Hawthorn have won about 6 flags since our last one makes its easier for them to take a chance at the recruiting table?
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Doubt our recruiters are scared nor pull the trigger early.
More likely have done their homework and gone to get who they wanted
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Doubt our recruiters are scared nor pull the trigger early.
More likely have done their homework and gone to get who they wanted
what a crock of poo. Our recruiters have nfi. :banghead :lol
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https://twitter.com/Stevo7AFL/status/439313253223505921
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@ClarkyHeraldSun twitter:
"Hawks confirm Garlett won't be considered for AFL or VFL in near future. Told club this week he was struggling to cope w/ elite demands."
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Interesting to re-read this thread.
LMAO at the experts saying we should have picked up Garlett.
Stressed Garlett to take break
February 28, 2014
Michael Gleeson
Hawthorn recruit Dayle Garlett will not play football for the foreseeable future after telling the club that he is struggling with the demands of life as an AFL footballer and the adjustment to professional sport.
Garlett, 20, was on the brink of walking away from an AFL career, having battled to deal with the rigours of AFL life. He had a crisis meeting with senior club figures where a compromise was reached to try to keep him in the game.
Garlett sent a text message to a number of friends asking for help and advice about what to do in his predicament, saying that he loved AFL football but also yearned to return to Western Australia.
Hawthorn said Garlett went to coach Alastair Clarkson and football manager Chris limpan on Thursday to tell them that he was battling with the stress of his new life and the expectations on him to perform and was considered walking away from the game.
Garlett has had trouble sleeping and eating as he deals with the move across the country and beginning a new life as a footballer in the spotlight.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/stressed-garlett-to-take-break-20140228-33rms.html#ixzz2ueU96n3M
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Hopefully he walks away from hawthorn and we can GET GARLETT!!!!!!
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He is stressed and hasn't even been exposed to senior game day football.
Another wise decision from the RFC. We can hardly cope with Dusty at the moment let alone have another troubled soul.......
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sorry for the kid..but at this stage glad we gave him a miss
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I said this kid wouldn't make it. We did a lot of due diligence and gave this kid every possible chance to be an RFC player, but he's a complete moron.
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I'll put my hand up, when Hawks made the call I put more faith in their judgement than our own clubs - I was wrong - well done RFC! :clapping
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I'll put my hand up, when Hawks made the call I put more faith in their judgement than our own clubs - I was wrong - well done RFC! :clapping
:clapping
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Shrewd RFC... now we can have BOTH Hampson and Garlett :shh
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Shrewd RFC... now we can have BOTH Hampson and Garlett :shh
:lol get it done Blair. :clapping
Delisted FA. :rollin
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Talent like that is worth the risk...either way, Garlett not playing v Hampson playing, both have the same effect of leaving us a man short.
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I'll put my hand up, when Hawks made the call I put more faith in their judgement than our own clubs - I was wrong - well done RFC! :clapping
I'm sure Whorethorn new what they getting in for, its just that as reigning premiers you can afford to take that higher risk pick than those still trying to get their list up to standard.
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I'll put my hand up, when Hawks made the call I put more faith in their judgement than our own clubs - I was wrong - well done RFC! :clapping
:clapping :clapping :clapping
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I'll put my hand up, when Hawks made the call I put more faith in their judgement than our own clubs - I was wrong - well done RFC! :clapping
Glad to see we have at least one honest soul amongst us.
:thumbsup
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I'll put my hand up, when Hawks made the call I put more faith in their judgement than our own clubs - I was wrong - well done RFC! :clapping
Glad to see we have at least one honest soul amongst us.
:thumbsup
Nah his a ranga
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I'll put my hand up, when Hawks made the call I put more faith in their judgement than our own clubs - I was wrong - well done RFC! :clapping
Glad to see we have at least one honest soul amongst us.
:thumbsup
Nah his a ranga
he's
and you're way off
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Apart from struggling to make the transition, what has he done to attract such vitriol ?
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Apart from struggling to make the transition, what has he done to attract such vitriol ?
I think the vitriol is based around which side of the argument was taken when the merits of taking him was being discussed on here pre-draft. It's now grown legs to become a case of "I told you so". :whistle
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Snip again :banghead
Post were removed because they had gone off topic again
What started out as a mature discussion soon got hijacked by comments not relevant to the discussion so ALL post were removed
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What do you mean all posts were removed? There's 23 pages on this? Grow up, WP.
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What do you mean all posts were removed? There's 23 pages on this? Grow up, WP.
You are very much aware of which posts have been removed.
And the reasons why have been explained.
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What do you mean all posts were removed? There's 23 pages on this? Grow up, WP.
You are very much aware of which posts have been removed.
And the reasons why have been explained.
Yeah, the racism issue has been swept under the rug again, hasn't it Bill? I'm not happy.
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Yeah, the racism issue has been swept under the rug again, hasn't it Bill? I'm not happy.
No it hasn't though you again have decided to play the racism card
Facts are you posted a comment that as I have said should have created a mature discussion.
Unfortunately, it got hijacked and in the end mocked indigenous culture which is offensive to many people. Hence why, they got removed
You're not happy. After what I read as part of the hijacking/mocking I wasn't either
End of discussion
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I don't have time to play on here all day, WP. Neither do you. I didn't see what followed after I quoted Gerks. If the indigenous were mocked I would have been the first to blow up at it.
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Dayle Garlett quits AFL football, citing routine and homesickness as his reasons...
Read more: http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/hawthorn-draftee-dayle-garlett-quits-afl-football-citing-routine-and-homesickness-as-his-reasons/story-fndv8os9-1226864704828
Hawthorn’s decision to punt on the talented but troubled Dayle Garlett is over, with the youngster telling the club on Tuesday he was not up to the demands of AFL life and was walking away from football.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/garlett-quits-hawks-20140325-zqmwh.html#ixzz2wyh5ZDNh
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Rookie him in a year or two when he finally wakes up to himself.....
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Rookie him????..How about we leave the boy be to sort his life out .he obviously aint interested in the AFL
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Rookie him????..How about we leave the boy be to sort his life out .he obviously aint interested in the AFL
Did you only read the first two words of my post or is basic comprehension just beyond you?
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inb4 Dwainos inb4 Garlett tells the afl community he is ready to play afl footy again at seasons end
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this is good.
he has 6 months to get it together and we can draft him, as long as we dont trade away our 2nd rnd pick, that is.
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There is some funny stuff in this thread
Cannot see any club taking a chance (3rd) on this bloke
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I've got more chance of being rookied. Done.
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There is some funny stuff in this thread
Cannot see any club taking a chance (3rd) on this bloke
3rd?
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There is some funny stuff in this thread
Cannot see any club taking a chance (3rd) on this bloke
3rd?
Been waiting for someone to question it ;D
If you include the 2012 draft where he wasn't picked up by anyone because of a number his issues as his 1st chance at being drafted
Hawthorn has always been spoken of as his 2nd chance
If he was to get picked up by another club it would be his 3rd chance ;D
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There is some funny stuff in this thread
Cannot see any club taking a chance (3rd) on this bloke
3rd?
Been waiting for someone to question it ;D
If you include the 2012 draft where he wasn't picked up by anyone because of a number his issues as his 1st chance at being drafted
Hawthorn has always been spoken of as his 2nd chance
If he was to get picked up by another club it would be his 3rd chance ;D
I don't include the 2012 draft as a club giving him a chance, Hawthorn were the first to give him a chance.
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fair suck of the sauce bottle...are we still prattling on about this kid??
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Troy Taylor is ready for another crack.
Should consider.
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He still wants a house?
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Troy Taylor is ready for another crack.
Should consider.
Sad in it's irony TBR. Seen him play up here and he goes ok. Has a lot of the attributes that would enable him to make it in the big league but missing the crucial one.
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Troy Taylor is ready for another crack.
Should consider.
the attributes that would enable him to make it in the big league but missing the crucial one.
The house
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Troy Taylor is ready for another crack.
Should consider.
the attributes that would enable him to make it in the big league but missing the crucial one.
The house
:lol :clapping :lol
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LMAO
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:clapping :lol
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This could be the small forward we have been after for years....worth the risk????? Why not IMO!!!!!!
Shunned young gun Dayle Garlett says he is a changed man and ready for AFL football
FOOTBALL'S problem child, Dayle Garlett, says he has corrected the lifestyle problems that warranted him being labelled "a ticking time bomb'' at last year's national draft.
Garlett was overlooked by all 18 clubs last year and was kicked out of the AIS/AFL academy despite a reputation as the most talented footballer in the draft pool.
The slick left-footer trained with Essendon in the off-season but was bypassed after a 4am bender in Perth only three days before the pre-season draft.
But Garlett has had a stunning off-field transformation, convincing Swan Districts officials and recruiters he will be worth the punt in November.
Garlett broke his silence on last year's draft snub.
"Football-wise, I was probably ready last year,'' Garlett told the Herald Sun.
"Maturity-wise, probably not. But I feel better than ever.
"I have got a girlfriend and things are going great.
"I feel like a weight has been lifted off my shoulders.
"My main focus is to make the AFL at the end of the year and I'm going to give it 100 per cent.''
On the field, Garlett has been an unstoppable force for Swan Districts this season, bagging four goals in a move forward on Saturday.
He has averaged 20 possessions and two a goals a game, being heavily tagged.
Swans player development officer Steve Thomson, who has run the house which has sometimes sheltered Garlett, said the AFL club that took Garlett would have "no regrets''.
"No one can lay a glove on him,'' Thomson said.
"And his kicking is elite.
"He makes the football talk.
"If he doesn't get drafted in his career, he will be the best player I've seen to never get drafted.''
Thomson says the 181cm speedster has settled down off the field, fuelling hope of a remarkable tale of redemption.
With the strong support of his girlfriend's family and the Swans Districts Football Club, the former party boy attends a personal trainer course four days a week.
He is sleeping regular hours and eating properly.
Thomson says he is helping teach other indigenous youngsters how to ``properly fuel their bodies''.
Garlett posted photographs of himself drinking alcohol and smoking cigarettes on social media in the lead-up to last year's national draft, which were published in a Western Australian newspaper.
But Garlett said he was serious about getting his act together.
"Definitely those off-field issues are gone and I'm making progress step-by-step,'' Garlett said.
"I'm studying and playing good footy, but it's not just on-field - it's off-field.''
Thomson said he wasn't surprised when Garlett was overlooked at last year's draft, but this season is shaping up differently.
"Missing out last year did hurt him and shake him up and you questioned whether he was going to go on with it (footy) or not.
"Pre-season started and he wasn't with us (at training) for a while, but the setback in the end was one that had to happen.
"It was a good call (from clubs overlooking him).
"Instead of getting him in the system, when he would probably have come straight back out, he will go in there a lot better prepared.
Thomson is convinced the run and carry machine would reward whichever club plucks him.
If the draft was tomorrow, Thomson was certain he would find an AFL home.
It is believed Hawthorn, St Kilda, Collingwood and Fremantle has showed the most interest in the past.
"Once someone does take that chance, they will have no regrets, '' Thomson said.
"He will chew up as much work as a club can put on his plate.
"The rest of things took time for him to mature and grow up a touch. To understand what direction he wanted to go in.
"His football can match anyone, it's just getting used to the day to day rigours of AFL-life that he has had to work on, but he definitely has showed he is on the right track.''
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/shunned-young-gun-dayle-garlett-says-he-is-a-changed-man-and-ready-for-afl-football/story-e6frf9jf-1226652508331
He was surely very exciting kid with lots of talent.. I hope he follow the right path and become successful..
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give him a spot over bannfield or grigg
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Still worth it?
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/failed-afl-recruit-dayle-garlett-charged-with-aggravated-burglary-car-theft/story-fnii5thm-1227063661405 (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/failed-afl-recruit-dayle-garlett-charged-with-aggravated-burglary-car-theft/story-fnii5thm-1227063661405)
FAILED AFL recruit Dayle Garlett, 20, has been arrested on serious charges and is in custody in WA.
Garlett has been charged with aggravated burglary and stealing a motor vehicle. It is understood he is being held in custody.
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:lol
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The way our recruiting works, I'd say this news makes us more likely to sign him.
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The way our recruiting works, I'd say this news makes us more likely to sign him.
Has he been on another list? Did his stint at Hawthorn count?
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FJ will just be biding his time for another 10 years, then we will pounce on him. :shh
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Would be a failure if he came to us. Would be a star if he went to a culture like Hawthorn.
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Stealing that car would of added the X-factor we desperately need
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I'm glad our recruiters steered clear.
All fun and games until you're in the big house.
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He would end up selling off our premiership cups, bloody tea leaf.
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He would end up selling off our premiership cups, bloody tea leaf.
Would convert them into bongs
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lmao
thread is going places
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Rookie draft
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He would end up selling off our premiership cups, bloody tea leaf.
Would convert them into bongs
Oh you can put your weed in there.
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His cousin Jarrod is sure worth the risk…..
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His cousin Jarrod is sure worth the risk…..
Not with an early pick
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His cousin Jarrod is sure worth the risk…..
Not with an early pick
I was thinking of second rounder. Probably wont make it to our second though......
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Definitely was not worth the risk, after it's now getting out he developed a meth addiction while at Hawthorn :lol :lol
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..and some wondered why the so many recruiters overlooked him.
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Definitely was not worth the risk, after it's now getting out he developed a meth addiction while at Hawthorn :lol :lol
Yep
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/dayle-garlett-former-hawthorn-player-admits-turning-to-crime-to-feed-meth-addiction/story-fni5ezdm-1227114293096?sv=baf4011b37278d4829e478de6a536229
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Is it too soon to bring up the Talent Vs Character debate? :P
One thing we can all agree on though - Garlett HAD talent ...
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Definitely was not worth the risk, after it's now getting out he developed a meth addiction while at Hawthorn :lol :lol
Yep
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/dayle-garlett-former-hawthorn-player-admits-turning-to-crime-to-feed-meth-addiction/story-fni5ezdm-1227114293096?sv=baf4011b37278d4829e478de6a536229
Rookie list
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A real waste. The kid didn't realise the future he could have had.
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A real waste. The kid didn't realise the future he could have had.
Hold on a little longer, earn some match payments and he could of bought so much more meth
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:lol
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Imagine how cheap we could get him now http://m.theage.com.au/wa-news/fresh-charges-for-exhawks-recruit-dayle-garlett-20141120-11qvr8.html
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To answer the thread - NO!
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:lol :lol :lol and some people didn't see this sort of stuff coming, although I think everyone would be lying if they thought he'd be this bad
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:lol :lol :lol and some people didn't see this sort of stuff coming, although I think everyone would be lying if they thought he'd be this bad
i was one of those guys who kicked and screamed we didn't get him.
glad i was wrong
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Wanted him with the pick we traded for Hamspud...so as it stands we're still a man down anyway....except Hamspud takes up more cap space than Garlett would've and can't be replaced until the end of next year.
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I was one of the ones who kicked and screamed that we shouldn't take him.
Glad I was right.
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I'd take him tomorrow instead of Hampson.
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I was one of the ones who kicked and screamed that we shouldn't take him.
Glad I was right.
Probably wanted MC hammer too
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I'd still take him tbh
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Yes I'm sure a meth addicted thief would fit in well with the playing group. :lol :lol :lol
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better than you would think i am afraid