Dustin Martin - 300 games [merged]

[Penelope]

Football related?? Does he mean Coaching issues? issue with other players or not being allowed to play how he wants?

yeah, good questions.

If Martin nominates GWS as the club he wants to go to then we will certainly loose bargaining power but I doubt they would force him into the PSD. If he chooses a club above us on the ladder that will certainly help our case. Either way I think a fair and reasonable deal can be struck with any team. The minimum of a first round pick plus an established player would get it done.

yep, considering GWS pretty much gave us morris, and they instigated the deal, i think its a fair to assume they will not be out to screw us

[Stripes]

Sounds like we need to cut our losses here. He doesn't want to play by the rules and wants it all his way. Money, freedom, friends and his own way - reminding me of Troy Taylor and his house demands! I'm not sure we need a bloke like him around the club regardless. If we can get something like what we paid for him with draft picks then we need to jump on it imo

[TigerMonk]

As l posted you only get the truth 

[Francois Jackson]

Football related?? Does he mean Coaching issues? issue with other players or not being allowed to play how he wants?

yeah, good questions.

If Martin nominates GWS as the club he wants to go to then we will certainly loose bargaining power but I doubt they would force him into the PSD. If he chooses a club above us on the ladder that will certainly help our case. Either way I think a fair and reasonable deal can be struck with any team. The minimum of a first round pick plus an established player would get it done.

yep, considering GWS pretty much gave us morris, and they instigated the deal, i think its a fair to assume they will not be out to screw us

adding to that Sheeds is still there and he is a good man

[Yeahright]

If Carlton can afford to pay overs for Thomas as a free agent and then another 600 for Martin on top of all their other players and we are apparently scraping the barrel for money in the salary cap something is seriously wrong!

Has nothing to do with salary cap being near 100%, not sure where this has been reported but it is not true?

It's been stated many times by the RFC that they will not deviate from their payment strategy model (the same Geelong use). Purpose of this is that they don't have any 1 player getting paid massive amounts and that we can stay competitive in free agency etc. Also ensures there is room for payments to the developing players when they come good to pay them more.

My post had nothing to do with us not paying Martin the 600k for salary cap issues, it was just a much broader statement about how reporters are saying we're near the cap and then suddenly Carlton seems to have a never ending cap

[Yeahright]

Football related?? Does he mean Coaching issues? issue with other players or not being allowed to play how he wants?

Doesn't like to chase

[TigerMonk]

He was never going to sign. He was always going to leave once his contract was up. He had no respect for the club.
Hope his breaks his leg & his next contract will be his last. 

[WilliamPowell]

Many people bag Jack as being selfish yet he signed up for less than he could get on the open market. Cotch re signed for less than his value also, imo. These are the guys we want at our club and the culture will be better for it. Maybe now we will have one less stimulus for controversy at our club.I am bitterly disappointed at his decision but it may be a blessing in disguise .

Understand what you are saying and I agree with almost all of it bar the bit about Cotch. He is our highest paid player now and I don't think he took anything less than what he could have got on the open market. IMV the fact he only re-signed for 2 years rather than 4 and the comments he made about why it's only 2 years and being prepared to back himself in for a bigger deal in 2 years sort of confirmed that

But anyway it's not about Cotch it's about Dusty

The HUN reporting that Demon's Coach Paul Roos spoke to Carr a number of times last week

And can I say also (again) it will be hilarious if he changes his mind again and ends up staying

Actually interested to know how some people on here would feel about it?

People are whacking him (rightly) but what happens if by chance he ends up staying just like Rioli did back in the mid 1980's ( was going to the the Swans and changed his mind) or Campbell did in the 1990's

[Hellenic Tiger]

Football related?? Does he mean Coaching issues? issue with other players or not being allowed to play how he wants?

yeah, good questions.

If Martin nominates GWS as the club he wants to go to then we will certainly loose bargaining power but I doubt they would force him into the PSD. If he chooses a club above us on the ladder that will certainly help our case. Either way I think a fair and reasonable deal can be struck with any team. The minimum of a first round pick plus an established player would get it done.

yep, considering GWS pretty much gave us morris, and they instigated the deal, i think its a fair to assume they will not be out to screw us

adding to that Sheeds is still there and he is a good man

Leon Cameron is now the coach and a former Richmond player so that may help us too in negotiations.

[Judge Roughneck]

Many people bag Jack as being selfish yet he signed up for less than he could get on the open market. Cotch re signed for less than his value also, imo. These are the guys we want at our club and the culture will be better for it. Maybe now we will have one less stimulus for controversy at our club.I am bitterly disappointed at his decision but it may be a blessing in disguise .

Understand what you are saying and I agree with almost all of it bar the bit about Cotch. He is our highest paid player now and I don't think he took anything less than what he could have got on the open market. IMV the fact he only re-signed for 2 years rather than 4 and the comments he made about why it's only 2 years and being prepared to back himself in for a bigger deal in 2 years sort of confirmed that

But anyway it's not about Cotch it's about Dusty

The HUN reporting that Demon's Coach Paul Roos spoke to Carr a number of times last week

And can I say also (again) it will be hilarious if he changes his mind again and ends up staying

Actually interested to know how some people on here would feel about it?

People are whacking him (rightly) but what happens if by chance he ends up staying just like Rioli did back in the mid 1980's ( was going to the the Swans and changed his mind) or Campbell did in the 1990's

Still a tosser.

[tony_montana]

Many people bag Jack as being selfish yet he signed up for less than he could get on the open market. Cotch re signed for less than his value also, imo. These are the guys we want at our club and the culture will be better for it. Maybe now we will have one less stimulus for controversy at our club.I am bitterly disappointed at his decision but it may be a blessing in disguise .

Understand what you are saying and I agree with almost all of it bar the bit about Cotch. He is our highest paid player now and I don't think he took anything less than what he could have got on the open market. IMV the fact he only re-signed for 2 years rather than 4 and the comments he made about why it's only 2 years and being prepared to back himself in for a bigger deal in 2 years sort of confirmed that

But anyway it's not about Cotch it's about Dusty

The HUN reporting that Demon's Coach Paul Roos spoke to Carr a number of times last week

And can I say also (again) it will be hilarious if he changes his mind again and ends up staying

Actually interested to know how some people on here would feel about it?

People are whacking him (rightly) but what happens if by chance he ends up staying just like Rioli did back in the mid 1980's ( was going to the the Swans and changed his mind) or Campbell did in the 1990's

Lost all respect for the flog. Has shown he has no honour and puts himself before the jumper(which is his prerogative fair enough) but he's lost me as a massive fan. If he left or stayed I honestly couldn't give a stuff now and would rather he did tbh. Not dealing with a full deck of cards

[eliminator]

Very disappointed if he leaves. Would be a real blow. Need to up offer.

[WilliamPowell]

Gee this gets funnier by the minute 

AFL website have now changed their tune and removed the reference to having "quit" to:

DUSTIN Martin has told Richmond he will pursue offers from other clubs, raising the possibility he will leave the Tigers.

See: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-09-16/martin-quits-tigers

Think we call it "hedging ones bets" 

[tony_montana]

Very disappointed if he leaves. Would be a real blow. Need to up offer.

No

[Hellenic Tiger]

Many people bag Jack as being selfish yet he signed up for less than he could get on the open market. Cotch re signed for less than his value also, imo. These are the guys we want at our club and the culture will be better for it. Maybe now we will have one less stimulus for controversy at our club.I am bitterly disappointed at his decision but it may be a blessing in disguise .

Understand what you are saying and I agree with almost all of it bar the bit about Cotch. He is our highest paid player now and I don't think he took anything less than what he could have got on the open market. IMV the fact he only re-signed for 2 years rather than 4 and the comments he made about why it's only 2 years and being prepared to back himself in for a bigger deal in 2 years sort of confirmed that

But anyway it's not about Cotch it's about Dusty

The HUN reporting that Demon's Coach Paul Roos spoke to Carr a number of times last week

And can I say also (again) it will be hilarious if he changes his mind again and ends up staying

Actually interested to know how some people on here would feel about it?

People are whacking him (rightly) but what happens if by chance he ends up staying just like Rioli did back in the mid 1980's ( was going to the the Swans and changed his mind) or Campbell did in the 1990's

Lost all respect for the flog. Has shown he has no honour and puts himself before the jumper(which is his prerogative fair enough) but he's lost me as a massive fan. If he left I honestly couldn't give a stuff and would rather he did. Not dealing with a full deck of cards

Dustin Martin = malakies.

Sadly as you put it Tone not dealing with a full deck of cards.
Irony is if he ends up at Melb and we were laughing when Scully left.
Pick 2 and the priority pick is on the table for us.