Ben Griffiths [merged]

[dwaino]

 

[Gigantor]

Magoo might not be setting the world on fire ,but I cant see how, currently ben is beating the door down to boot him out........A Edwards yes

[WilliamPowell]

... even Jacko did his job well

WP I think you might find that Jacko has done his job well in most of the games this season.

At last week's player sponsor's dinner, my sponsored player said to me that if Jacko keeps going the way he is going, he is a chance to win the B&F.

Now I have digressed,

Funny I was at the dinner and got told something similar. All about them doing the roles they are given well. Interesting those dinners finding out what certain players roles are 

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Any chance of finding the plan on Griffiths at one of those dinners WP?

 

Not my sponsored player so I didn't talk to Ben 

[Yeahright]

... even Jacko did his job well

WP I think you might find that Jacko has done his job well in most of the games this season.

At last week's player sponsor's dinner, my sponsored player said to me that if Jacko keeps going the way he is going, he is a chance to win the B&F.

Now I have digressed,

Funny I was at the dinner and got told something similar. All about them doing the roles they are given well. Interesting those dinners finding out what certain players roles are 

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Any chance of finding the plan on Griffiths at one of those dinners WP?

 

Not my sponsored player so I didn't talk to Ben 

Who do you sponsor? Or is that another sworn secret 

[WilliamPowell]

Who do you sponsor? Or is that another sworn secret 

A player   

Actually it was good this year had 3 players on our table. They were all great company

[gerkin greg]

BOT

Get a kick BEN 

[Tigger]

McGaune is hardly bringing his own footy to games...

Never let the stats get in the way of a good story, how about all of McGuane's stats this year, not just the last few games:

2013 Games Log for Luke McGuane (Richmond Tigers)
 Description Date Opponent Result                       K  HB  D  M  G   B  T  HO  GA  I50 FF FA DT SC
Round 7 11th May  Port Adelaide Win 114-73       8  3   11  8    1  1  1 0 1 2 0 0 65 62
Round 6 4th May  Geelong Loss 87-131               5  4    9   3   1   0  3 4 0 2 0 2 48 38
Round 5 26th Apr  Fremantle Loss 80-81             4  6   10  3    2   0  2 0 0 1 0 4 41 46
Round 4 20th Apr  Collingwood Loss 79-113         8  2   10  3   2   1  1 0 1 1 1 1 52 68
Round 3 14th Apr  Western Bulldogs Win 135-68 10 4   14  5   3    1  2 0 2 4 1 3 72 78
Round 2 5th Apr  St Kilda Win 99-82                  10 5   15  4    2   3  1 1 0 1 2 0 74 87
Round 1 28th Mar  Carlton Win 106-101              6 6    12  3   2    1  4 0 0 2 1 2 63 101
 
So McGuane has kicked 13 goals in 7 games which if he keeps that average up equates to around 39 plus goals for the season.  Not bad for your third tall who is also athletic and gives a contest in the fwd line.

Take Griffs best year - 2012, footywire has him as having the following:

2012 Games Log for Benjamin Griffiths (Richmond Tigers)
 Description Date Opponent Result                          K HB D  M G B T HO GA I50 FF FA Brownlow
Round 21 18th Aug  Fremantle Loss 72-94               2 1   3  2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0   
Round 20 12th Aug  Western Bulldogs Win 150-80    3 1   4  2 0 0 1 0 0 1 1 2   
Round 19 4th Aug  Brisbane Win 132-84                  4  2   6  4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0   
Round 15 7th Jul  Melbourne Win 101-78                 7 5   12 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1   
Round 14 30th Jun  Adelaide Loss 87-106               11 6  17 7 0 0 1 0 0 2 0 0   
Round 12 16th Jun  GWS Win 86-74                         4 3   7 1 0 0 2 0 0 2 0 2   
Round 11 9th Jun  Fremantle Loss 66-78                   1 7   8 2 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 0   
Round 10 1st Jun  St Kilda Win 121-113                    3 7 10 2 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 0   
Round 9 26th May  Hawthorn Win 137-75                 6 10 16 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 2 1
 

and in the win over carlton Griff had 6 disposals - so in his last 4 afl games (selective stats here too, last 3 from 2012 plus carlton this year0 he has had 19 disposals.

As I said in an earlier post, I think he looks sublime - his kicking is sensational- he just doesnt get it enough.  He doesnt really exert himself on the contest.

A couple of weeks ago at Coburg, the coaches instructions to the players were that they wanted to get him into the game more.  If Griff ran by them, they were to pass it to him.  Only problem, as I understand it from the observer who heard these instructions, Griff just never ran by them to get/receive the ball.  Pity.

 

[Stripes]

I think they will continue to play Griffith as a backman this year but over the preseason they will change his role to forward. I thing I want to see Griffiths doing is taking a grab. When he has the ball in his hands he is an elite disposer of the ball either launching it 70m or pinpointing a pass to a short option. He is no backman though.

His shoulders have obviously worried the coaches and medical staff. Couple that with the general consensus that tall forwards should learn their smarts learning from the defenders perspective and you have all the justification you require to make him a short term defender.

With his speed, height and kick he would make an amazing CHF pushing up the wings and taking big grabs. Confidence is probably an issue now too. If he hasn't the strength yet to out-muscle opponents or the ability to stick a mark though, then he would just be taking up space in the team.

Hope he can develop his game 

[tiga]

Who do you sponsor? Or is that another sworn secret 

A player   

Actually it was good this year had 3 players on our table. They were all great company

How is Billy Nicholls WP? 

[WilliamPowell]

How is Billy Nicholls WP? 

Will admit I had a laugh tiga,

I can't remember where I was when he was arrested on the street so didn't know about until that night when it was on the news.

Family look to me and say "didn't you sponsor that guy". I said "yep for 12 months". Next comment from family "you know how to pick 'em don't you"

Touche 

[Judge Roughneck]

McGaune is hardly bringing his own footy to games...

Never let the stats get in the way of a good story, how about all of McGuane's stats this year, not just the last few games:

2013 Games Log for Luke McGuane (Richmond Tigers)
 Description Date Opponent Result                       K  HB  D  M  G   B  T  HO  GA  I50 FF FA DT SC
Round 7 11th May  Port Adelaide Win 114-73       8  3   11  8    1  1  1 0 1 2 0 0 65 62
Round 6 4th May  Geelong Loss 87-131               5  4    9   3   1   0  3 4 0 2 0 2 48 38
Round 5 26th Apr  Fremantle Loss 80-81             4  6   10  3    2   0  2 0 0 1 0 4 41 46
Round 4 20th Apr  Collingwood Loss 79-113         8  2   10  3   2   1  1 0 1 1 1 1 52 68
Round 3 14th Apr  Western Bulldogs Win 135-68 10 4   14  5   3    1  2 0 2 4 1 3 72 78
Round 2 5th Apr  St Kilda Win 99-82                  10 5   15  4    2   3  1 1 0 1 2 0 74 87
Round 1 28th Mar  Carlton Win 106-101              6 6    12  3   2    1  4 0 0 2 1 2 63 101
 
So McGuane has kicked 13 goals in 7 games which if he keeps that average up equates to around 39 plus goals for the season.  Not bad for your third tall who is also athletic and gives a contest in the fwd line.

Take Griffs best year - 2012, footywire has him as having the following:

2012 Games Log for Benjamin Griffiths (Richmond Tigers)
 Description Date Opponent Result                          K HB D  M G B T HO GA I50 FF FA Brownlow
Round 21 18th Aug  Fremantle Loss 72-94               2 1   3  2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0   
Round 20 12th Aug  Western Bulldogs Win 150-80    3 1   4  2 0 0 1 0 0 1 1 2   
Round 19 4th Aug  Brisbane Win 132-84                  4  2   6  4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0   
Round 15 7th Jul  Melbourne Win 101-78                 7 5   12 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1   
Round 14 30th Jun  Adelaide Loss 87-106               11 6  17 7 0 0 1 0 0 2 0 0   
Round 12 16th Jun  GWS Win 86-74                         4 3   7 1 0 0 2 0 0 2 0 2   
Round 11 9th Jun  Fremantle Loss 66-78                   1 7   8 2 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 0   
Round 10 1st Jun  St Kilda Win 121-113                    3 7 10 2 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 0   
Round 9 26th May  Hawthorn Win 137-75                 6 10 16 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 2 1
 

and in the win over carlton Griff had 6 disposals - so in his last 4 afl games (selective stats here too, last 3 from 2012 plus carlton this year0 he has had 19 disposals.

As I said in an earlier post, I think he looks sublime - his kicking is sensational- he just doesnt get it enough.  He doesnt really exert himself on the contest.

A couple of weeks ago at Coburg, the coaches instructions to the players were that they wanted to get him into the game more.  If Griff ran by them, they were to pass it to him.  Only problem, as I understand it from the observer who heard these instructions, Griff just never ran by them to get/receive the ball.  Pity.

I look forward with baited breath to your next statistical analysis. 

[the claw]

those at the club know best. or how about i trust francis jackson over hacks like you. 

i have just two words when it comes to talls that draft  . black, carlisle. yet im a mug.and why not pull my own chain all most on here want vto do is have a crack.
is it too early to be crowing,  for sure  but what the hell?  i cop crap from everyone on most sites because i stick to my guns.  when your right no one ever comes back and acknowledges it.

ben  should always have been developed as a forward and he should have spent his time mostly at coburg in that role with bklocks of games here and there for the experience. im wondering have we done a posty on ben.
 
 i basically got banned on pre over the 09 draft.almost every criticism i had on us drafting  ben has come home to roost.
silly thing is i reckon hes got a lot of talent like most do. its getting close to the time where ben needs to show some sort of improvement and stop living off the potential tag.
does anyone know if hes getting a kick at coburg. 200cm players are there to dominate in the air is he clunking marks or at least bringing iot to ground constantly at coburg.,

people dont want to admit it but we continue to have real problems with most of our talls. tyrone vikery and luke mcguane say high up forwrd and i dont need mention the bloke down back.

[Rampstar]

Sydney bound is what Im hearing.

[Judge Roughneck]

Sydney bound is what Im hearing.

Tony Lockett the 2nd. 

[Tigger]

I look forward with baited breath to your next statistical analysis. 

Just so that I won't disappoint you:

As to Ben Griffiths:
Go to sporting pulse and look at the stats for Ben Griffiths -

http://www.sportingpulse.com/team_info.cgi?action=PSTATS&pID=192151205&client=1-118-10471-253880-18717695

As to Luke McGuane:
see Dimma's video from the previous week and Luke's smother and second effort that resulted in Knights' goal (when he did his patella).

There may be a reason for McGuane's effort yesterday than has been reported - as others have said in the McGuane thread - gastro possibly.