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Offline big tone

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Re: Bachar Houli [merged]
« Reply #1395 on: August 07, 2019, 12:47:16 PM »
Ok how about lachie Whitfield all Australian half back flanker from last season ranked second.

Jake Lloyd probably all australian this year ranked third.

Rory Laird all Australian half back flanker/back pocket the past 2 years ranked 7th.

When you constantly bring up small forwards and the goals they kicked in a game and put that on houli you sound like all those people that would see a key forward kick a bag and put it down to Alex rance. Defences aren’t based around 1 on 1 match ups anymore, when a player kicks a bag it’s a failure of the entire defensive structure.

Edwards and Stack have played many matches in defence this year, why don’t you go back and look at who kicked the goals in those games or were all those houlis fault too?
All 3 players you mention can also win contested ball unlike Houli.
And they can actually defend.

And the whole backline is to blame when a small forward kick goals on Houli is a cop out. Are you saying that the players are not accountable for an opponent? Ever? Or is it just when it suits?

I don’t see key forwards or even medium forwards kicking bags against us, Grimes, Vlastuin, Astbury and even Broad do a great job in defending first then get involved with running the footy out of our backline,  it’s more the small forwards of late which would suggest Houli and Short are leaking goals.

Houli no doubt is an extremely hard worker and does some things well but if you think he doesn’t need to tighten up defencively, you have no idea.

Just keep reading that stat sheet but if you really want to learn something, maybe go to a game and actually watch Houli closely, and I don’t mean when we have the pill because you can do that from home watching the TV.

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Re: Bachar Houli [merged]
« Reply #1396 on: August 07, 2019, 03:03:45 PM »
You really do have selective memory, why don’t you look back at the games and see which forwards actually got a hold of us. But just to take a sample size of our recent losses:

2018 prelim final: de goey 4, Cox 3
Round 2 v Collingwood: De Goey 5
Round 3 v gws: Cameron 7, finlayson 5
Round 7 v wbd: Naughton 5
Round 11 v north: brown 5, wood 4
Round 12 v cats: Hawkins 4
Round 13 v crows: Jenkins 4, walker 3

As for this all those players I named winning contested ball unlike houli  ::)
Whitfield: avging 28.5 disposals, 20.8 uncontested, 6.6 contested
Lloyd: avging 31.2 disposals, 20.5 uncontested, 4.9 contested
Laird: avging 25.7 disposals, 17.5 uncontested, 7.8 contested
Houli: avging 28.3 disposals, 19.7 uncontested, 5.2 contested

So you keep going to/watching games with your blinders on and I’ll keep doing the same but not judging the players before the ball gets bounced and then actually using stats to back up my argument.

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Re: Bachar Houli [merged]
« Reply #1397 on: August 08, 2019, 04:22:50 PM »
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Enough said really

Certainly reads well if Houli matches up with those players
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Re: Bachar Houli [merged]
« Reply #1398 on: August 18, 2019, 05:08:53 PM »
Houli is in career best form. His ninth 30+ disposal game for the season. Killed them with his run off HB.

34 disposals (21k, 13h, 10c, 23u, 82% eff.)
9 marks
1 clearance (1 centre)
6 inside F50s
3 rebound D50s
2 tackles
5 one%ers
3 clangers
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Re: Bachar Houli [merged]
« Reply #1399 on: August 18, 2019, 06:12:44 PM »
Anyone who doesn’t rate Houli is not looking at things objectively.

He is an offensive weapon.

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Re: Bachar Houli [merged]
« Reply #1400 on: August 18, 2019, 06:15:17 PM »
Big game player. :shh
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Re: Bachar Houli [merged]
« Reply #1401 on: August 18, 2019, 06:17:50 PM »
Enough said. Was massive today especially the last half

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Re: Bachar Houli [merged]
« Reply #1402 on: August 18, 2019, 06:31:58 PM »
His last quarter was exceptional
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Re: Bachar Houli [merged]
« Reply #1403 on: August 18, 2019, 06:33:15 PM »
What did BT say?  :huh


EDIT: Oh you mean OER's BT not Seven's... :shh
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Re: Bachar Houli [merged]
« Reply #1404 on: August 18, 2019, 06:54:57 PM »
Big game player. :shh

Should be in the AA conversation
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Re: Bachar Houli [merged]
« Reply #1405 on: August 18, 2019, 07:19:09 PM »
What did BT say?  :huh


EDIT: Oh you mean OER's BT not Seven's... :shh

Yep

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Re: Bachar Houli [merged]
« Reply #1406 on: August 18, 2019, 07:58:37 PM »
He needed to lift after a poor first quarter/half and my goodness did he ever. Attacked the ball and won critical meters in the last Q.

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Re: Bachar Houli [merged]
« Reply #1407 on: August 18, 2019, 08:20:33 PM »
Was excellent after a poor first quarter.  :clapping
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Re: Bachar Houli [merged]
« Reply #1408 on: August 18, 2019, 08:38:04 PM »
That picked up, ran and carry at the end of the game was huge. Did a lot of good things all day.
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Re: Bachar Houli [merged]
« Reply #1409 on: August 18, 2019, 09:20:28 PM »
That picked up, ran and carry at the end of the game was huge. Did a lot of good things all day.

Bloody awesome that. Attacked the footy at full pace, took it clean and pumped it forward