The Fighting Tiger Fund - "Giving 110%" [merged]

[Dubstep Dookie]

Can't afford much but will scrape together a hunjee for them.

[TigerLand]

Had a few beers last night with our regular Richmond crew, in short we talked about the coming season and the Tiger Fund. We all agreed that the Fund was handled and delivered poorly. Well no, it was delivered well but the way the delivered it was ordinary:

- In the middle of all the disaster stuff wasn't ideal.
- The fact it pulled the heart strings of the tiger faithful, "We need more money, please give it to us"
- The fact that none of us have received our memberships yet, and its February and we paid for them in December, then we were asked to pitch in more money.
- Certificates are nice but surely better incentives can be given to donors.

There is endless, endless amounts of stuff the club can offer to Tiger members that cost zilch and would help people donate. I played cricket with Dean Bailey the Melbourne Coach. 2 of our mates have been into the post match coaches address cause my mates company donated money to the Demon debt demolition. Got to catch up with Dean Bailey and was great. Didn't cost Melbourne a cent but made me think hey I'll donate if I get to see this type of raw footy stuff, where do I sign Jim Stynes? So why have Richmond just held out there hands and said "Sorry sir you have a spare couple of bucks?" It's begging, and pretty poorly done.

Why not have a tired system for donations of:

$1000 = Allows you and your immediate family entrance into the rooms after any game of your choosing.
$2000 = Invites one of the Richmond listed players of your choosing to come to your house for an hour kick to kick or coaching session.
$5000 = Allows you inside the post match review with the player and coaches.
$10,000 = Your surname engraved into the side of the new RFC center having immortalized your contribution to the club

Just give us some small incentive to donate instead of playing on the "You so passionate you don't need an incentive". Some of that stuff above might already be available for free for the club but theres more incentives the club could offer.

[Damo]

Pope,

I rang the club and offered 3k donation so I could attend the gala on thursday. But I insisted that my wife come along. Simply put, my wife stated,  "if you are going to donate 3k to the fund, I want to come to the dinner".

I ring the club and state, "im willing to donate 3k, but I want a ticket for the two of us. Basically, I cant afford 6k, but will pump in 3k if you give me two seats".


Reply, "sorry, but you would need to put in 6k".

So I have now given zip and wont be attending with my wife.

[Infamy]

Pope,

I rang the club and offered 3k donation so I could attend the gala on thursday. But I insisted that my wife come along. Simply put, my wife stated,  "if you are going to donate 3k to the fund, I want to come to the dinner".

I ring the club and state, "im willing to donate 3k, but I want a ticket for the two of us. Basically, I cant afford 6k, but will pump in 3k if you give me two seats".


Reply, "sorry, but you would need to put in 6k".

So I have now given zip and wont be attending with my wife.

Not sure why this is surprising, there are only 300ish seats and apparently its already close to being full
I don't particularly want to go by myself, but I am

I think there should be far more incentives to encourage donations between $500-3000 and perhaps more levels of incentives. I would like my Round 17 jumper framed but I can't afford $20k, I would be happy to donate more to the club for it as I'll have to pay for it anyway. Either way that's been the way its done and the proof will be at the end of the year.

[10 FLAGS]

What happened with Damo is wrong in my opinion. But some of the criticisms are abit tough IMHO. When you donate, you shouldnt really expect anything in return. Donate what you can, donate it with your heart and if you get something in return its a bonus, if not, you can be pleased in the knowledge that you did the best you could and you made a contribution.

[jackstar is back again]

Pope,

I rang the club and offered 3k donation so I could attend the gala on thursday. But I insisted that my wife come along. Simply put, my wife stated,  "if you are going to donate 3k to the fund, I want to come to the dinner".

I ring the club and state, "im willing to donate 3k, but I want a ticket for the two of us. Basically, I cant afford 6k, but will pump in 3k if you give me two seats".


Reply, "sorry, but you would need to put in 6k".

So I have now given zip and wont be attending with my wife.

Not sure why this is surprising, there are only 300ish seats and apparently its already close to being full
I don't particularly want to go by myself, but I am

I think there should be far more incentives to encourage donations between $500-3000 and perhaps more levels of incentives. I would like my Round 17 jumper framed but I can't afford $20k, I would be happy to donate more to the club for it as I'll have to pay for it anyway. Either way that's been the way its done and the proof will be at the end of the year.

can tell you not full at all, am in the process of organising a table

[bojangles17]

What happened with Damo is wrong in my opinion. But some of the criticisms are abit tough IMHO. When you donate, you shouldnt really expect anything in return. Donate what you can, donate it with your heart and if you get something in return its a bonus, if not, you can be pleased in the knowledge that you did the best you could and you made a contribution.

that somes it up well said

[red]

Whinging and naive reactions, that's what I'm hearing.

Damo - They probably only have room, and a license, for 300 people to attend. If you want your wife, and the next guy wants his wife, and the next guy wants his son, then soon you've only got room for 150 people that are going to donate. Anyway, if you're going to give $3,000, and then the club very reasonably points out that it is not possible, why don't you still give the $3,000? If not $3,000, then why not $1,000, or $500, or $100...no, you take your bat and ball and go home.

Popelord - what you're expecting in return is just not practical, and would take up a host of staff organising and implementing it. Be reasonable. Cotchin would be visiting multiple homes, for instance.

[10 FLAGS]

Pope,

I rang the club and offered 3k donation so I could attend the gala on thursday. But I insisted that my wife come along. Simply put, my wife stated,  "if you are going to donate 3k to the fund, I want to come to the dinner".

I ring the club and state, "im willing to donate 3k, but I want a ticket for the two of us. Basically, I cant afford 6k, but will pump in 3k if you give me two seats".


Reply, "sorry, but you would need to put in 6k".

So I have now given zip and wont be attending with my wife.

why dont you buy some memorabilia from the club, that way you can get something decent for your contribution. just an idea thats all.

[Damo]

I will give something. The simple fact is that I actually wanted to attend this function though and now im not.

I would think that 3k is a fair amount for the two seats. But ive missed out.

Im not a whinger, and I sure as poo havent packed up my bat and ball and "gone home". But as for now, ive given nothing.

Ill find a time and a place this year when it suits me to contribute.

What the club should have done is as follows -

"Sorry, we cant accept 3k for two seats at this time. BUT, if on the day there are empty spots, we will give you a call and offer you two seats for the 3k".

Be pretty stuffing stupid if they dont book out and there are empty seats on the night.

[TigerLand]

My last post wasn't a whinge at not having incentives it was highlighting how poorly IMO it's been marketed to the public.

The club who I'll forever defend in 99% of cases have just opened up a bank and said, please transfer funds. And thats it.

Just don't agree with the way they launched it.

Sure we can all be fine citizens and bow our heads and say I give and don't expect anything in return, go home and night and pat ourselves on the back and feel good about ourselves, or we could ask our club for a better organised, marketed and proposed debt demolition.

But the fact is that not everyone works that way. In fact the majority of people don't.

All the passionate member fork our yet more money for the cause of the RFC, (for nothing.. again). Yet we haven't branched out to target other demographics. The, not so passionate Richmond supporters, the non members, the fair weather supporters, supporters of other clubs etc. If there is something there for these groups then the club obviously gets more money and he club also doesn't pull the heart string of us die hards... again.

I'm on both our local footy and cricket committees and it's near impossible getting sponsors on board each year unless we offer something in return. A few club legends that own their own business donate money to the club but without a tiered sponsorship structure you'd get nothing in return if you hold out your hands and simple just say "please donate...."

It could have had more thought put in thats all. The club would have benefited from it.

[Infamy]

My last post wasn't a whinge at not having incentives it was highlighting how poorly IMO it's been marketed to the public.

The club who I'll forever defend in 99% of cases have just opened up a bank and said, please transfer funds. And thats it.

Just don't agree with the way they launched it.

Sure we can all be fine citizens and bow our heads and say I give and don't expect anything in return, go home and night and pat ourselves on the back and feel good about ourselves, or we could ask our club for a better organised, marketed and proposed debt demolition.

But the fact is that not everyone works that way. In fact the majority of people don't.

All the passionate member fork our yet more money for the cause of the RFC, (for nothing.. again). Yet we haven't branched out to target other demographics. The, not so passionate Richmond supporters, the non members, the fair weather supporters, supporters of other clubs etc. If there is something there for these groups then the club obviously gets more money and he club also doesn't pull the heart string of us die hards... again.

I'm on both our local footy and cricket committees and it's near impossible getting sponsors on board each year unless we offer something in return. A few club legends that own their own business donate money to the club but without a tiered sponsorship structure you'd get nothing in return if you hold out your hands and simple just say "please donate...."

It could have had more thought put in thats all. The club would have benefited from it.

Even the incentives for big donations hasn't been publicised much. It was mentioned in The Age once and if you ask the club will send you the PDF but there's no mention of these on the FTF page.

Not sure of the motivation behind this. I would have thought that showing that you are offering something in return would create more donations. I know I donated what I did because of what I got back for myself. Maybe that's selfish, but for the quantity of money its also reasonable.

[10 FLAGS]

My last post wasn't a whinge at not having incentives it was highlighting how poorly IMO it's been marketed to the public.

The club who I'll forever defend in 99% of cases have just opened up a bank and said, please transfer funds. And thats it.

Just don't agree with the way they launched it.

Sure we can all be fine citizens and bow our heads and say I give and don't expect anything in return, go home and night and pat ourselves on the back and feel good about ourselves, or we could ask our club for a better organised, marketed and proposed debt demolition.

But the fact is that not everyone works that way. In fact the majority of people don't.

All the passionate member fork our yet more money for the cause of the RFC, (for nothing.. again). Yet we haven't branched out to target other demographics. The, not so passionate Richmond supporters, the non members, the fair weather supporters, supporters of other clubs etc. If there is something there for these groups then the club obviously gets more money and he club also doesn't pull the heart string of us die hards... again.

I'm on both our local footy and cricket committees and it's near impossible getting sponsors on board each year unless we offer something in return. A few club legends that own their own business donate money to the club but without a tiered sponsorship structure you'd get nothing in return if you hold out your hands and simple just say "please donate...."

It could have had more thought put in thats all. The club would have benefited from it.

Why would fair weather supporters or supporters from other clubs give money? I cant see it myself. The fact is Richmond people have to make this project a success not outsiders or people who only support when it suits them.
If you  need some incentive, then your better off going to the club, buying a 1980 Richmond jumper signed by players for just under $2000 or buying that piece of Jack Riewoldt memorabilia thats available. Theres also afew Richo peices available.

[blaisee]

Pope,

I rang the club and offered 3k donation so I could attend the gala on thursday. But I insisted that my wife come along. Simply put, my wife stated,  "if you are going to donate 3k to the fund, I want to come to the dinner".

I ring the club and state, "im willing to donate 3k, but I want a ticket for the two of us. Basically, I cant afford 6k, but will pump in 3k if you give me two seats".


Reply, "sorry, but you would need to put in 6k".

So I have now given zip and wont be attending with my wife.

Not sure why this is surprising, there are only 300ish seats and apparently its already close to being full
I don't particularly want to go by myself, but I am

I think there should be far more incentives to encourage donations between $500-3000 and perhaps more levels of incentives. I would like my Round 17 jumper framed but I can't afford $20k, I would be happy to donate more to the club for it as I'll have to pay for it anyway. Either way that's been the way its done and the proof will be at the end of the year.

can tell you not full at all, am in the process of organising a table

organising a table?

leaving it a bit late arent you jack?

i heard that you werent welcome

[10 FLAGS]

Pope,

I rang the club and offered 3k donation so I could attend the gala on thursday. But I insisted that my wife come along. Simply put, my wife stated,  "if you are going to donate 3k to the fund, I want to come to the dinner".

I ring the club and state, "im willing to donate 3k, but I want a ticket for the two of us. Basically, I cant afford 6k, but will pump in 3k if you give me two seats".


Reply, "sorry, but you would need to put in 6k".

So I have now given zip and wont be attending with my wife.

Not sure why this is surprising, there are only 300ish seats and apparently its already close to being full
I don't particularly want to go by myself, but I am

I think there should be far more incentives to encourage donations between $500-3000 and perhaps more levels of incentives. I would like my Round 17 jumper framed but I can't afford $20k, I would be happy to donate more to the club for it as I'll have to pay for it anyway. Either way that's been the way its done and the proof will be at the end of the year.

can tell you not full at all, am in the process of organising a table

organising a table?

leaving it a bit late arent you jack?

i heard that you werent welcome

Blaisee, somehow I dont reckon the club will say that Jackstar isnt welcome if hes organised a table of 10, in effect $30k for the club. In the end Jackos money is as good as anyone elses and it all goes to the club anyway.