The Fighting Tiger Fund - "Giving 110%" [merged]

[Stripes]

Very exciting reading all this. Must be time for another fund raiser drive 

All jokes aside, we all just want our club to keep improving and claw back to its rightful place above the pretenders - Carlton and Hawthorn. Time for us to become the biggest club in the league again and I think we are certainly on the right track at the moment for this to happen. 

[rogerd3]

unfortunately we dont have a Jeanie Pratt like the blooze.

mind you the debt they are carrying is pretty heavy.

the woods will always draw the heavy hitters because its collingwood
and you Mr Ed pumping up the brand at every opportuntity.

i always contribute as i love the club and want to see it back
to been a leader again, as long as the funds are directed
accordingly so we can all see tangible results.

plus its going to make it all the sweeter when we do sit a few of
these other clubs on their backsides, the brand we have to sell
could be huge in the market place.

blooze = nondescript brand personally
tigers= a tiger as a mascot cant compare the 2.
woods= well they always present in finals, they have rebuilt
their brand so kudos to Mr Ed.

[yellowandback]

Very exciting reading all this. Must be time for another fund raiser drive 

All jokes aside, we all just want our club to keep improving and claw back to its rightful place above the pretenders - Carlton and Hawthorn. Time for us to become the biggest club in the league again and I think we are certainly on the right track at the moment for this to happen. 

Totally agree Stripes 
My only watch out is in the way we are planning our TPP to reward and "retain" top talent. If the retain component is linked to the continued strategy of "front end loading" It would be great if the club could explain how this helps us.   This is particularly with players who are unproven and may end up not reaching their potential and therefore end up massively overpaid. I think of a player like Luke McGuane who - if you believe the talk - was on this massive front loaded contract that could now never be justified.
How do they avoid a reoccurrence of this situation?

[one-eyed]

The Club earlier this month trademarked the name "The Fighting Tiger Fund".

You wouldn't do this if you weren't going to make the FTF an ongoing fundraising source for the Club. Seems we are going to extend it to FTF merchandise as well.

http://pericles.ipaustralia.gov.au/atmoss/falcon_details.show_tm_details?p_tm_number=1561445&p_search_no=3&p_ExtDisp=D&p_detail=DETAILED&p_rec_no=14&p_rec_all=14

Trade Mark : 1561445
Word:    THE FIGHTING TIGER FUND
Image:    
Lodgement Date:    06-JUN-2013
Class/es:    14, 16, 25, 28, 35, 36, 41
Status:    Indexing Approved
Kind:    n/a
Type of Mark:    Word

Owner/s:    Richmond Football Club Limited
   ACN/ARBN: 005563011
         Yarra Park
         RICHMOND VIC 3131
         AUSTRALIA
   
   
Address for Service:    Naomi Dawson
         Bazzani Scully Priddle
         L15
         200 Queen St
         MELBOURNE VIC 3000
         AUSTRALIA
   

Goods & Services

Class: 14 Medallions (jewellery); Key rings (trinkets or fobs); Key rings with fobs or trinkets attached

Class: 16 Adhesive printed stickers; Adhesive stickers; Bumper stickers; Car stickers; Printed stickers; Stickers for cars; Vehicle bumper stickers; Window stickers; Brochures; Presentation brochures; Booklets relating to games; Membership certificates; Fan magazines; Newsletters; Advertising leaflets; Advertising posters; Advertising publications; Printed advertising material; Tokens for advertising purposes for collection in sets

Class: 25 Apparel (clothing, footwear, headgear); Clothing for sports

Class: 28 Apparatus for use in the game of football; Sporting articles for use in playing football (other than clothing or articles for protective purposes); Australian rules footballs; Footballs; Miniature replica football kits; Reduced sized footballs; Apparatus for ball games

Class: 35 Advertising; Advertising services provided by television; Advertising services provided over the internet; Advertising services provided via a data base; Arranging exhibitions for advertising purposes; Billboard advertising; Collection of information relating to advertising; Conducting exhibitions for advertising purposes; Direct mail advertising; Direct market advertising; Dissemination of advertising material; Online advertising on a computer network; Organisation of exhibitions for commercial or advertising purposes; Organising of prize draws for advertising purposes; Outdoor advertising; Preparation of advertising material; Promotional advertising services; Radio advertising; Recruitment advertising; Television advertising; Association services being the promotion of the interests of members of the association; Promotional management for sports personalities; Promotional marketing; Promotional services; Sponsorship (promotion and marketing services); Administration relating to marketing; Conducting of marketing studies; Direct marketing; Marketing; Planning of marketing strategies; Preparation of marketing plans; Production of sound recordings for marketing purposes; Production of video recordings for marketing purposes; Research services relating to marketing; Telephone marketing services

Class: 36 Financial sponsorship of education, training, entertainment, sporting or cultural activities

Class: 41 Publication of magazines; Publishing of newsletters; Arranging of sporting events; Booking of tickets for sporting events; Event management services (organisation of educational, entertainment, sporting or cultural events); Management of sporting events; Organisation of sporting events; Organisation of sporting competitions; Providing information, including online, about education, training, entertainment, sporting and cultural activities; Sporting activities; Ticket agency services (sporting); Information services relating to sport; Sports club services; Sports education services; Sports information services; Electronic publication of information on a wide range of topics, including online and over a global computer network; Online (electronic) publication of news; Publication of posters; Arranging of entertainment; Arranging of exhibitions for entertainment purposes; Club entertainment services; Club services (entertainment or education); Conducting of exhibitions for entertainment purposes; Fan club services (entertainment); Management of entertainment events; Provision of club entertainment services; Social club services (entertainment, sporting and cultural services); Cultural activities; Cultural information; Organisation of fan clubs; Organisation of games; Provision of club recreation facilities; Provision of social club services

History
Opposition

Indexing Details - Word      Constituents
FIGHTING    FUND
TIGER

[WilliamPowell]

Hmmm

Smart trade marking it

Not so sure it's the right thing to keep going back to the same well (aka the fans) with your hand out. Not convinced it's a great business model going forward

[Rampstar]

Its not gonna raise $6 million in a short time again but if it raises $500k to $1 million a year on going then that would be a worthwhile excercise.

[WilliamPowell]

Its not gonna raise $6 million in a short time again but if it raises $500k to $1 million a year on going then that would be a worthwhile excercise.

Understand your point Ramps but I'd be concerned if they are relying on it raising $1mil a year going forward, as I said not sold it's the right business model. $500k perhaps but $1mil, not sure it's achievable to be honest.

Also, it's gone from being sold as a 1-2 year thing to now an "on-going" which has me thinking along the lines it's not right to keep going back tothe same well

[gerkin greg]

It's not a "business model"

[WilliamPowell]

It's not a "business model"

It forms part of the Clubs overall business model, call it a component of the overall business model.

Its inclusion as an on going part of the business means it is part of their business model, business plan

Based on that I am not sold that it is the right model to be basing revenue forecasts on

Just my opinion

[gerkin greg]

in Part
not based on

[Yeahright]

Didn't think a bit of extra cash hurt anyone

[Rampstar]

I would also have concerns if the club is budgeting for this money as though its part of normal operations. Isnt it possible to have this sort of fund operating but not included in the normal statements of cash flows etc and balance sheets.

[WilliamPowell]

I would also have concerns if the club is budgeting for this money as though its part of normal operations. Isnt it possible to have this sort of fund operating but not included in the normal statements of cash flows etc and balance sheets.

Absolutely not!

Legally bound (coprs law & acctg standards) to include it in all financial statements just like they have funds for the JDF over the years. Granted the JDF money can only be used for one purpose but it is/must included in all financial statements/disclosures

Besides the Club now views the FTF as part of it's normal operations, they said so in last year's Financial reports.

But I understand your concern Ramps, I share it

Didn't think a bit of extra cash hurt anyone

Agree and I've been a supporter of the FTF, have been since it was launched. But I just think it is frought with danger to expect supporters to keep kicking in year after year. And it is all level of members & supporters that have funded the thing

Said it before it's gone from being a 1-2 year special fundraiser to something that appears now to have no end, can't keeping going back to the same well, eventually it will dry up 

[tigs2011]

Agree, better to save it for when we find ourselves down the crapier again. Tocuhwood it doesn't happen again.

[Rampstar]

I would also have concerns if the club is budgeting for this money as though its part of normal operations. Isnt it possible to have this sort of fund operating but not included in the normal statements of cash flows etc and balance sheets.

Absolutely not!

Legally bound (coprs law & acctg standards) to include it in all financial statements just like they have funds for the JDF over the years. Granted the JDF money can only be used for one purpose but it is/must included in all financial statements/disclosures

Besides the Club now views the FTF as part of it's normal operations, they said so in last year's Financial reports.

But I understand your concern Ramps, I share it

Didn't think a bit of extra cash hurt anyone

Agree and I've been a supporter of the FTF, have been since it was launched. But I just think it is frought with danger to expect supporters to keep kicking in year after year. And it is all level of members & supporters that have funded the thing

Said it before it's gone from being a 1-2 year special fundraiser to something that appears now to have no end, can't keeping going back to the same well, eventually it will dry up 

Considering that I went to the Greek School of Ramps Accounting I thought it a legitimate question