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« Reply #5790 on: August 16, 2022, 03:30:47 PM »
Couldn't think of anything of less interest to the current needs of Australian people than how many portfolios Scomo was sniffing about


"It matters because protecting our democracy matters."


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-16/morrison-secret-ministries-need-answers/101337716

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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #5791 on: August 16, 2022, 04:25:08 PM »
Couldn't think of anything of less interest to the current needs of Australian people than how many portfolios Scomo was sniffing about


[size=2]"It matters because protecting our democracy matters."
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-16/morrison-secret-ministries-need-answers/101337716

 :lol :lol :lol

you must not have lived in Victoria.

Couldn't think of anything of less interest to the current needs of Australian people than how many portfolios Scomo was sniffing about

Amen. He has left and was voted out cause he did nothing to reverse the cost of living and rate crisis. Thank god that is sorted now as it barely gets a mention. :lol

Though corruption is corruption if that is what this is.  One gets caught and others....

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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #5792 on: August 17, 2022, 03:21:00 PM »
Pales into significance compared to putting armed guards on our state borders

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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #5793 on: August 17, 2022, 04:29:50 PM »
As someone voting for neither I can say, IMO, Albo may be a slightly better person but he sure as poo will be a far worse leader. He is clueless


AT, do you still think Albo is clueless?
  Early days, 65. Got to give him time to be fair. Overall though yes, I don't have a lot of confidence in him to say the least.
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« Reply #5794 on: August 17, 2022, 06:02:19 PM »
Pales into significance compared to putting armed guards on our state borders

Dictator Dan looking like he will get another 4 years in government.
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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #5795 on: August 18, 2022, 12:41:49 PM »
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« Reply #5796 on: August 18, 2022, 02:14:14 PM »
Lots of ways to reduce over-crowding, most of which are unpalatable to anyone including those who complain repeatedly.

For example - stop bulk billing ED presentations unless someone is admitted to the hospital or at least referred to a specialist. This will prevent people using ED's like GP clinics for basic needs like scripts, medical certificates, minor ailments like uncomplicated UTI's and ingrown nails, cut fingers etc.

But then the last thing you want to do is actually deny people access to care.

The other thing to do is try to send people home as quickly as possible, which is what the ED has done with this poor lady who I can only empathise with. Bottom line here is she is 83, has had a 'clinical stroke' (ie diagnosed based on clear presenting symptoms, not with computed tomography or other radiological imaging) and her potential to recover and rehabilitate when she's already living in a nursing home is virtually nil. Hospitals have healthcare workers in them, not miracle workers. Admission to a hospital will provide minimal benefit because the ceiling of care or intervention is so low - you can't or wouldn't ethically do neurosurgery on her, you won't do CPR if she becomes unresponsive because her chance of meaningful survival is less than 1%, in fact if she deteriorates the best thing for her would be to go painlessly and quickly - this is always preferable at home where people are familiar with staff/family and more comfortable, not in foreign environments with strangers. Nursing homes have staff trained to do this and all hospitals have community services that can assist in the process at home.


Like I said, all unpalatable solutions.


The hospital system has been broken since I walked into it in 2009 and not a single state or federal government has managed to do anything to fix it. It constantly runs at or above 100% capacity so the potential for 'surge workload' is non-existent. Hospitals cost billions to build, hundreds of millions to extend, and training for even the most basic staff takes two years but at least 4-6 for most disciplines.

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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #5797 on: August 18, 2022, 02:17:29 PM »
EDIT: on that sour note, my best advice to anyone over 65 is:
1) Have an enduring power of attorney arrangement organised with an appropriate lawyer. Not just financial, medical etc. Go enduring
2) See your GP about arranging an Advanced Care Plan in case something horrible happens to you, like the above stroke
3) Make sure your GP and close family/friends are aware of the above and how to access the relevant documentation

These are the best ways to preserve your dignity when you can't think, speak or act for yourself anymore :(

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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #5798 on: August 18, 2022, 02:40:34 PM »
EDIT: on that sour note, my best advice to anyone over 65 is:
1) Have an enduring power of attorney arrangement organised with an appropriate lawyer. Not just financial, medical etc. Go enduring
2) See your GP about arranging an Advanced Care Plan in case something horrible happens to you, like the above stroke
3) Make sure your GP and close family/friends are aware of the above and how to access the relevant documentation

These are the best ways to preserve your dignity when you can't think, speak or act for yourself anymore :(

 :thumbsup smart mate and not just for the under 65. Also dont pay a lawyer thousands when you can do it yourself.

Updated mine online recently for $100.

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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #5799 on: August 18, 2022, 02:59:00 PM »
EDIT: on that sour note, my best advice to anyone over 65 is:
1) Have an enduring power of attorney arrangement organised with an appropriate lawyer. Not just financial, medical etc. Go enduring
2) See your GP about arranging an Advanced Care Plan in case something horrible happens to you, like the above stroke
3) Make sure your GP and close family/friends are aware of the above and how to access the relevant documentation

These are the best ways to preserve your dignity when you can't think, speak or act for yourself anymore :(

 :thumbsup smart mate and not just for the under 65. Also dont pay a lawyer thousands when you can do it yourself.

Updated mine online recently for $100.



I would mostly consider a lawyer so that if there's a dispute after your EPOA is activated they would have the required training and assessment capabilities to confirm that you were of sound decision-making capacity when the EPOA was made.

Makes it harder for nasty pasties to challenge your wishes after that fact on the grounds that you may have been cognitively impaired.

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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #5800 on: August 18, 2022, 08:41:45 PM »
EDIT: on that sour note, my best advice to anyone over 65 is:
1) Have an enduring power of attorney arrangement organised with an appropriate lawyer. Not just financial, medical etc. Go enduring
2) See your GP about arranging an Advanced Care Plan in case something horrible happens to you, like the above stroke
3) Make sure your GP and close family/friends are aware of the above and how to access the relevant documentation

These are the best ways to preserve your dignity when you can't think, speak or act for yourself anymore :(

 :thumbsup smart mate and not just for the under 65. Also dont pay a lawyer thousands when you can do it yourself.

Updated mine online recently for $100.



I would mostly consider a lawyer so that if there's a dispute after your EPOA is activated they would have the required training and assessment capabilities to confirm that you were of sound decision-making capacity when the EPOA was made.

Makes it harder for nasty pasties to challenge your wishes after that fact on the grounds that you may have been cognitively impaired.

the guys i used to update come with a free sesh with a lawyer online, or via phone.

With the exception of Benny Gale and Stephen Jurica, I wouldn't pay them one cent but that's me.

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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #5801 on: August 19, 2022, 05:12:32 PM »
Scott Morrison appointed himself to 5 extra ministries.
As far as I can see there are only two possible reasons he did this.
1. He thought he was the only one that could run the government.
2. It was grab for power that bordered on treason.
Take your pick. Either way the Libs/Nats allowed him to do this.
Albo can almost be guaranteed another 2 terms as PM.

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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #5802 on: August 19, 2022, 05:17:29 PM »
No one actually cares though. Your average Australian just wants to be able to pay their rent and power bill, they don't give a stuff what Scomo was doing.
I work in Africa and they were taking the pee out of me for saving Africa.......
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« Reply #5803 on: August 19, 2022, 05:39:38 PM »
No one actually cares though. Your average Australian just wants to be able to pay their rent and power bill, they don't give a stuff what Scomo was doing.
You need to speak for yourself not for all Australians average or not.
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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #5804 on: August 19, 2022, 06:23:26 PM »
You need to get a grip on reality and start caring about issues that actually matter, champ
I work in Africa and they were taking the pee out of me for saving Africa.......
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