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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #6240 on: October 04, 2023, 12:21:22 PM »
Voted today as I am interstate on the 14th

Must say I was genuinely surprised that there was no-one there from the "No" camp.

Speaking to friend who lives on the opposite side of the city to me, they said at the early vote centre near them there was only 1 person from the "Yes" camp and 3 from the "No" camp

It appears t be all very targeted by both camps as to where they station their volunteers


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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #6243 on: October 05, 2023, 10:23:27 PM »
More trouble in potato paradise.

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/senior-liberals-in-battle-for-top-senate-spot-20230820-p5dxz7.html


Two prominent Liberal frontbenchers will lock horns in a preselection contest that insiders warn could destabilise the party’s run into the next election.

In a move that will provoke fresh debate around female representation in the Coalition, Jane Hume, the opposition finance spokeswoman, has decided to run for the top position on the Victorian Senate ticket occupied by home affairs spokesman James Paterson.


A peace deal engineered by then prime minister and treasurer Scott Morrison and Josh Frydenberg before the 2019 election shielded Hume, one of the opposition’s top female MPs, from a challenge by conservative forces, cementing her No.2 position.

But Hume’s intention to vie for the top spot – confirmed by two party sources who could not speak publicly about preselections due to party rules – pits her moderate wing against the Victorian Right faction.

You mean like this newspaper ???

It’s literally the last thing you posted on the thread until telling the world you were overseas.

So posting from a newspaper is only acceptable for you ?

You posted another newspaper link the post prior as well. And the post prior, and the post prior.

Anyway, not important

More important is #albomustgo

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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #6244 on: October 06, 2023, 12:20:22 AM »
If spam posting links without engaging in any real debate was all FJ did then '65 might actually have a point for once in his useless life... :shh

Also news.com.au isn't actually a newspaper.... :shh :shh
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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #6245 on: October 06, 2023, 12:28:35 AM »
In other news the price of crude oil dropped over 5% today so we should technically see the price of petrol dropping over coming few weeks but it's difficult when these enterprises are all privately owned.

Would be nice to see some owned by the public and create competition but then we'd be accused of being socialist/communist bastards etc.

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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #6246 on: October 06, 2023, 02:39:08 AM »
All I can gather from all that's been posted is that Albo must

Has to go
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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #6247 on: October 06, 2023, 04:59:40 AM »
In other news the price of crude oil dropped over 5% today so we should technically see the price of petrol dropping over coming few weeks but it's difficult when these enterprises are all privately owned.

Would be nice to see some owned by the public and create competition but then we'd be accused of being socialist/communist bastards etc.


Just back from England and petrol is 1.59 GBP per litre. That's $3.04 AUS per litre.

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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #6248 on: October 06, 2023, 10:04:32 AM »
In other news the price of crude oil dropped over 5% today so we should technically see the price of petrol dropping over coming few weeks but it's difficult when these enterprises are all privately owned.

Would be nice to see some owned by the public and create competition but then we'd be accused of being socialist/communist bastards etc.


Just back from England and petrol is 1.59 GBP per litre. That's $3.04 AUS per litre.

And in Venezuela it’s 1c a litre

Your point is what ?

That our economy is screwed and the AUD is rooted against the pound? As someone living overseas and getting paid in AUD, this is a problem. All fun and games when we plummet below .50c against the USD

Good on you Albo

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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #6249 on: October 09, 2023, 03:15:23 PM »
Well it looks like the referendum will not succeed.

Dutton's negative campaign has worked.

But interestingly Albo is the preferred PM 47% to Dutton's 25%.

And Labor's primary vote has increased from 36% to 37% while the Coalition has gone from 34% to 31%.

Looks like Dutton has won the battle but lost the war.

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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #6250 on: October 09, 2023, 03:33:13 PM »
I just think it's pretty clear that Albo must go.

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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #6251 on: October 09, 2023, 05:16:33 PM »
Yep - has divided the country beyond repair will have blood on his hands regardless of the result next Saturday - all so unnecessaryand  just for the sake of far-left ideological nonsense and his own ego. #Albomustgo.
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« Reply #6252 on: October 09, 2023, 05:18:58 PM »
Wouldn't surprise me if the referendum gets a yes tbh

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« Reply #6253 on: October 09, 2023, 05:25:22 PM »
For the sake of actual political discussion rather than pot shots and silly rhetoric, what are people's reasons here for voting yes or no?

Actual logical reasons please rather than general wing allegiance.

I have been ambivalent for a long time and am still on the fence a lot.

I don't think the proposed legislation is specific enough but I also don't see any real potential harm for the voice. Any indigenous body can already make a submission to government for change but maybe the voice will encourage it to happen more.

Acknowledging indigenous people in the Constitution also seems quite harmless.

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Re: Australian Politics thread [merged]
« Reply #6254 on: October 09, 2023, 09:28:49 PM »
For the sake of actual political discussion rather than pot shots and silly rhetoric, what are people's reasons here for voting yes or no?

Actual logical reasons please rather than general wing allegiance.

I have been ambivalent for a long time and am still on the fence a lot.

I don't think the proposed legislation is specific enough but I also don't see any real potential harm for the voice. Any indigenous body can already make a submission to government for change but maybe the voice will encourage it to happen more.

Acknowledging indigenous people in the Constitution also seems quite harmless.

I'd answer Andyy but will only cop the normal whacks for being a "leftie"

My only comments are this:

I've been absolutely staggered how little people know about our constitution, what's in it and how it works. Understand our constitution and you soon realise that some of the statements being made as fact are simply not true. Section 51 in particular says "Hi"

And finally I posted this a few weeks back. Referendums shouldn't be about politics. I got lambasted about that comment but facts are they shouldn't be about politics but this one has sadly mostly been about politics. You'd hope we'd be better than that but clearly we are not

IMHO the Referendum won't succeed.
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