Ivan Maric [merged]

[WilliamPowell]

Instead of "Fear the Beard"

"Covet thy Mullet"

 

[one-eyed]

VIDEO: AFL legend Leigh Matthews wanted to sit down 1 on 1 with Ivan Maric for Channel 7, here's the video

http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/456467/Matthews%20interviews%20Maric/

[Penelope]

His comments about getting monstered by bigger ruckmen when he was younger, and now how he wants to do the same to the younger ones, to leave them with something to think about, probably should be kept in mind in regards to our younger ruckmen.

[Hellenic Tiger]

Just love the way he goes about his work. Has changed our midfield with his impact and is our most important player structure wise at the moment.

[the claw]

cmon guys we used pick 35 to find a competetive ruckman nothing more. we got a bloody bewty but that bewty is 26.
still against useing picks like 35 on unproven players and ivan was a unproven 26 yr old one.
we need to find his replacement now. i say this knowing we will have ivan for 4 or 5 yrs maybe more maybe less. list management or good list managemet caters to depth and it caters to succession.

[bojangles17]

Unproven to you maybe, id suggest Hartley would maintain it was a qualified decision rather than lucky dip with pick 35.....and guess what he was right

[Penelope]

after the carry on about taking older players, thats just bizarre.

[dwaino]

after the carry on about taking older players, thats just bizarre.

I thought exactly the same thing, Al. But sometimes it's just worth just not even getting involved lol.

[Judge Roughneck]

Claw - was browne as good as maric was at the same age?

[Chuck17]

Maric is a dud we should have used pick 135

[the claw]

after the carry on about taking older players, thats just bizarre.

bloody hell it like pulling teeth with some. pick 35 is a bloody good pick and we used it on an unproven player and if people dont like unproven how about totally inconsistent player who struggled to get a regular game. adelaide went so far to trade for a 21 yr old in jacobs who only showed promise up to that point and he went straight past ivan. 2nd rnd picks are valuable and should not be used on unproven players. if people took the time to read whats being written they would realise im all for mature players but not at any price.  i have set out the criteria but if you people cant be bothered reading it tough or maybe your just incapable of comprehending.
facts are facts ivan was struggling to get a game at adelaide was over taken by other ruckmen regularly and was inconsistent.
the truth is we were  hoping for nothing more than a competetive ruckman we got more than that good on em and hallelujah,  thing is  i have a problem useing good picks on any player that is unproven. i wasnt against us giving him a try but was against useing such a pick to get him. 1st and 2nd rnd picks should be bringing to the club 10yr players of quality. those picks are your long term.

yep i make no bones about ivan glad we got him and they found a damn good player but i still have issues with such picks being used on unproven 26 yr olds.

[tiga]

after the carry on about taking older players, thats just bizarre.

bloody hell it like pulling teeth with some. pick 35 is a bloody good pick and we used it on an unproven player and if people dont like unproven how about totally inconsistent player who struggled to get a regular game. adelaide went so far to trade for a 21 yr old in jacobs who only showed promise up to that point and he went straight past ivan. 2nd rnd picks are valuable and should not be used on unproven players. if people took the time to read whats being written they would realise im all for mature players but not at any price.  i have set out the criteria but if you people cant be bothered reading it tough or maybe your just incapable of comprehending.
facts are facts ivan was struggling to get a game at adelaide was over taken by other ruckmen regularly and was inconsistent.
the truth is we were  hoping for nothing more than a competetive ruckman we got more than that good on em and hallelujah,  thing is  i have a problem useing good picks on any player that is unproven. i wasnt against us giving him a try but was against useing such a pick to get him. 1st and 2nd rnd picks should be bringing to the club 10yr players of quality. those picks are your long term.

yep i make no bones about ivan glad we got him and they found a damn good player but i still have issues with such picks being used on unproven 26 yr olds.

But Claw, first round draft picks have also proven to be just as big a gamble. Fiora, Tambling anyone?? As others have said, if the footy dept have people with smarts, Like Hartley has, they can see through the fog of uncertainty to find that glimmer of gold.

[the claw]

Unproven to you maybe, id suggest Hartley would maintain it was a qualified decision rather than lucky dip with pick 35.....and guess what he was right

even i was sure he would give us more than graham. still it was a qualified decision on a player who could not crack a regular game.

getting the balance between retaining good picks and trading for players has always been the problem and it is what has killed us over the yrs. taking mature players has not been the problem.

im more than happy to concede hartley got it right but as a general rule of thumb i would not want to see us useing such good picks on unproven players qualified decision or not.

if they cant get the first and second rounders right they shouldnt have a job.  we are ow going to have to go out and use a good pick on a ruckman so we can replace maric in the short term.

lets get it straight im not arguing if ivan has turned out to be a good choice he has. but i will always go mad if we are useing second rounders on players who are 26 and struggled that process has and will bite us on the arse more often than not.
list management has been that bad along with recruiting that yes we were in a diabolical situation where we had to trade for a ruckman who would be more competetive than the duds we had/have.

[Penelope]

they got it right and the price wasn't too high, bottom line.
Strange that it turns out that that someone who does this poo for a living gets it right and and armchair critic is wrong.

What a weird world we live in......

[Judge Roughneck]

How did you intend us to get mids 20s potential A grade ruck without using pick 2nd round?