Stopping the boats

[Penelope]

 

Should be back early next week

[10 FLAGS]

Stop the Boats, Rescind the Tax, Get Labor Out - Down with the Socialists 
And get that riff raff out of the city. A bunch of no hopers who dont know what they're complaining about. Get out idiots and go back to Hicksville where you all come from.

[1965]

And more blood on the hands of anybody who supports this power hungry mongrel.

Tony has the power to stop this but is more interested in gaining power.

And don't rabbit on about the Nauru solution either. It won't work because asylum seekers know they will end up in Australia if they go to Nauru.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-12-18/asylum-seeker-boat-sinks-off-java/3736828

Asylum seeker boat sinks off Java

 Updated December 18, 2011 08:08:25

A wooden boat carrying more than 200 asylum seekers is reported to have sunk off Indonesia.

Indonesian media outlets say the boat was heading to Australia and sank about 30 kilometres off the East Java coast.

Thirty-three survivors have been plucked form the sea.

[Dubstep Dookie]

Deja vu anyone? 

It's ironic that you are using people's deaths to make your own political point. (for a second time)

History suggests that you are either trolling this thread, or, are too simple to check the last 4 pages to realise that nobody agrees with your propaganda. It goes nowhere and you get taken apart trying to justify it.

So spare us all, have some self discipline and pipe down.

[Gigantor]

Actually i dont care who comes into the country(criminals exempted),lets welcome them all.I admire the USA of yesteryear who said .give me your tired ,your poor and hungry.or maybe these days its more a case of what Lou reed sang.....Give me your tired ,your poor ,and hungry and I'll pee on them.

[1965]

Deja vu anyone? 

It's ironic that you are using people's deaths to make your own political point. (for a second time)

History suggests that you are either trolling this thread, or, are too simple to check the last 4 pages to realise that nobody agrees with your propaganda. It goes nowhere and you get taken apart trying to justify it.

So spare us all, have some self discipline and pipe down.

So I gather you are happy to continue to let Asylum seekers risk their lives in leaky old rust-bucket boats?

Or maybe you just don't care?

 

[Dubstep Dookie]

Deja vu anyone? 

It's ironic that you are using people's deaths to make your own political point. (for a second time)

History suggests that you are either trolling this thread, or, are too simple to check the last 4 pages to realise that nobody agrees with your propaganda. It goes nowhere and you get taken apart trying to justify it.

So spare us all, have some self discipline and pipe down.

So I gather you are happy to continue to let Asylum seekers risk their lives in leaky old rust-bucket boats?

Or maybe you just don't care?

 

On Dookies scale of world issues, it measures about a 3 out of 10 in terms of importance.

There are much bigger problems in the world, effecting many more peoples lives and livelihoods.

[1965]

Deja vu anyone? 

It's ironic that you are using people's deaths to make your own political point. (for a second time)

History suggests that you are either trolling this thread, or, are too simple to check the last 4 pages to realise that nobody agrees with your propaganda. It goes nowhere and you get taken apart trying to justify it.

So spare us all, have some self discipline and pipe down.

So I gather you are happy to continue to let Asylum seekers risk their lives in leaky old rust-bucket boats?

Or maybe you just don't care?

 

On Dookies scale of world issues, it measures about a 3 out of 10 in terms of importance.

There are much bigger problems in the world, effecting many more peoples lives and livelihoods.

Very true but this is one we can do something about.

Small steps.

 

[1965]

The Australian's editorial says it all.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/opinion/moral-dimension-of-tragic-loss-must-be-confronted/story-e6frg71x-1226225257035

Moral dimension of tragic loss must be confronted

From:The Australian
December 19, 201112:00AM

NOT that the concept would mean anything to them, but the people-smugglers who pocketed $10,000 for every man, woman and child who drowned off the Javanese coast early yesterday are morally culpable for the deaths. Without a skerrick of concern for the safety of the passengers or crew, a fishing boat never intended as a passenger vessel was loaded with about 250 people, mainly from Afghanistan and the Middle East, bound for Australia. Like the overcrowded boat that splintered off Christmas Island a year ago, the vessel was a deathtrap. Those who survived by clinging to its debris until they were picked up by fishermen have told how panic among those on board made the vessel even more unstable as it lurched from side to side before breaking apart....


...Australia's main political players were lying low yesterday, but unless there is an enormous shifting of ground they are unlikely to agree on a site for offshore processing, with the Coalition committed to using the Australian-built facilities on Nauru and Labor favouring the so-called Malaysian Solution that was scuttled by the High Court on August 31. What they must agree on, as soon as possible, is to pass legislation amending the Migration Act to allow the government of the day to enact offshore processing in the location or locations of their choice. Unfortunately, it is now probably too late to recall parliament before Christmas, as we suggested in recent weeks, but an agreement between Julia Gillard and Tony Abbott to pass the necessary amendments as soon as possible would send the necessary signals that Australia is not prepared to remain a soft touch as hardened criminals put more lives in jeopardy.

[Loui Tufga]

Both Labor and Liberal parties have failed in asylum seeker policy, and both have pursued unsustainable and wreckless positions. The only way out of the current mess IMO is to reinstate temporary protection visas, so that asylum seekers can be welcomed to Australia and offered temporary safe haven, then when it is safe to return to their homelands, they can return.

This position is the only principled position in this debate. It allows us to tackle the abuse of the concept of "asylum" by the left, who really mean permanent residence for anyone wanting to make their home in Australia. But it also allows to tackle the unprincipled xenophobia on the right, who have shown themselves willing to demonise vulnerable people in the quest for votes.

Asylum seekers are seeking asylum. They are not, ostensibly, seeking permanent residence. If they are found to be genuinely fleeing persectution, then they should be offered asylum until such time as it is safe to return home, then, they should return. A 2 year temporary protection visa, renewable for a further two years if conditions at home are not yet safe, is needed to restore some sanity into this issue!

[1965]

Both Labor and Liberal parties have failed in asylum seeker policy, and both have pursued unsustainable and wreckless positions. The only way out of the current mess IMO is to reinstate temporary protection visas, so that asylum seekers can be welcomed to Australia and offered temporary safe haven, then when it is safe to return to their homelands, they can return.

This position is the only principled position in this debate. It allows us to tackle the abuse of the concept of "asylum" by the left, who really mean permanent residence for anyone wanting to make their home in Australia. But it also allows to tackle the unprincipled xenophobia on the right, who have shown themselves willing to demonise vulnerable people in the quest for votes.

Asylum seekers are seeking asylum. They are not, ostensibly, seeking permanent residence. If they are found to be genuinely fleeing persectution, then they should be offered asylum until such time as it is safe to return home, then, they should return. A 2 year temporary protection visa, renewable for a further two years if conditions at home are not yet safe, is needed to restore some sanity into this issue!

I agree completely BUT...

It won't stop people risking their lives in leaky overcrowded rust buckets.

How many people have to die before our politicians get the message.

 

[WilliamPowell]

How many people have to die before our politicians get the message.

Finally you say it in the above statement

It is both sides not just one side that needs to get with the program 


Oops sorry selected the wrong option - should not have strikethrough should have been underlined

[1965]

How many people have to die before our politicians get the message.

Finally you say it in the above statement

It is both sides not just one side that needs to get with the program

Tell me then, what can the Government do to stop the boats?

And please don't insult me with the Narau option.

 

[Loui Tufga]

How many people have to die before our politicians get the message.

Finally you say it in the above statement

It is both sides not just one side that needs to get with the program

Tell me then, what can the Government do to stop the boats?

And please don't insult me with the Narau option.

 

Read above (again ) Bring back temporary protection visas.......

[1965]

How many people have to die before our politicians get the message.

Finally you say it in the above statement

It is both sides not just one side that needs to get with the program

Tell me then, what can the Government do to stop the boats?

And please don't insult me with the Narau option.

 

Read above (again ) Bring back temporary protection visas.......

But temporary protection visas will not stop the boats coming.

Give them temporary protection visas, allow them into the community and they will disappear.