Science thread [merged]

[dwaino]

I see you've been watching NASA Unexplained Files on Discovery Science.

[Judge Roughneck]

Reddit /conspiracy, actually

But I do wonder why astronauts would ssay such thing

Youd think they be very reputable and stable given the job description

[dwaino]

They are only observations.

[Diocletian]

Possibly they've seen too much, Hangar 18 they know too much...

[Judge Roughneck]

They are only observations.

Only observations by the


 people in space

[🏅Dooks]

Pretty convincing list of people.

Have to wonder short of seeing these things for yourself, who's acct would people trust and believe?

Used car salesmen? The local meth head?

[dwaino]

Einstein claimed the universe was static but that didn't make it so. Observations will be just that until there is hard proof regardless of who makes the claim.

[Judge Roughneck]

Was he looking out the window of his space ship,  seeing alien/s, at the time?

[Judge Roughneck]

To reiterate my point - i find it of interest the people saying these things

Are the ones inside the space ship, on the moon, looking around. The people that build space ships. Nuclear weapon bosses. Defence geezers etc.

Seemingly people that you would think need to be smart and not prone to talk shyte

They are only observations, by the people best position to observe?

Einstein claimed the universe was static but that didn't make it so. Observations will be just that until there is hard proof regardless of who makes the claim.

Human religious systems have been around for tens o thousands years. If hard proof was released tomorrow. What would the consequence be? Chaos...

Anything that would cause distribution to the current energy system qoa is unlikly to happen. As its a multi trillion industry. For example. If you suddenly bhave a device that gives abundant free energy. Would we get one? Nope

Reagan said to the un something along the lines of - if the world knew of other life outside of earth, how quickly our problems would fall away.  http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/flashback-reagans-vision-unifying. 
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag44dRO8LEA


That wouldn't be good, as there is no money in peace. If you disagree have a look into economics


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo_fighter. <-  is that hard proof? I've not seen it 'debunked'

[dwaino]

Lots of words, not a shred of evidence. Stick to conspiracies pls 

I'm a Fox Mulder, I want to believe and well read on the topic from von Daniken and Sitchin to Alan Alford, seen everything from UFO Hunters to Ancient Aliens and followed many alleged eye witnesses from Charles Hall to Paul Hellyer and trust me I will be the first to bang on when there is something to go on. To suggest so now based on arguments as intangible as unsubstantiated eyewitness accounts is bad science.

The argument of technology or whatever that will apparently topple the paradigm is rubbish. If it were the case the West would be doing everything in their power to stop China from heading to the moon to control helium-3.

Also, there is no such thing as free energy, whether abundant or scarce 

[Judge Roughneck]

Lots of words, not a shred of evidence. Stick to conspiracies pls 
 

Yet what you are purposely ignoring is they are not my words - they are the words of people that visited space ...  And other 'hhighly rated' types

Dwayne - do you agree astronaut or president says something in their chosen field - if holds more weight than if you or I were  to? Or is that a silly statement??

 

Sources:  http://universaltruth.github.io/#quotes

[Diocletian]

I'm just surprised you don't believe the moon landings were faked...

[Judge Roughneck]

http://www.examiner.com/article/neil-armstrong-dies-along-with-secrets-of-what-he-saw-on-moon

 

[🏅Dooks]

I think I'll take Neil Armstrongs word over two guys on the Internet that follow Richmond and inadvertently believe UFOs = crackpots on this subject matter.

Professor: What really happened out there with Apollo 11?

Armstrong: It was incredible … of course, we had always known there was a possibility … the fact is, we were warned off. There was never any questions then of a space station or a moon city.

Professor: How do you mean “warned off”?

Armstrong: I can’t go into details, except to say that their ships were far superior to ours both in size and technology – Boy, where they big! … and menacing …. No, there is no question of a space station.

[🏅Dooks]

Lots of words, not a shred of evidence. Stick to conspiracies pls 

I'm a Fox Mulder, I want to believe and well read on the topic from von Daniken and Sitchin to Alan Alford, seen everything from UFO Hunters to Ancient Aliens and followed many alleged eye witnesses from Charles Hall to Paul Hellyer and trust me I will be the first to bang on when there is something to go on. To suggest so now based on arguments as intangible as unsubstantiated eyewitness accounts is bad science.

dwaino what about the tens of thousands of photos  of sightings, many corroborated by radar? What about disclosed govt information confirming incidents? Do you believe these are all fakes/errors and the govt information is lying? You surely have to believe the weight of evidence points to something going on that is likely to include extraterrestrial visitation.

Or is it the test of proof requires you to see such a ship for yourself?