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Maric was outstanding last year and luckily played most games last year. He carried an injury for the large part. The one game he didn't play we were not competitive in the ruck at all. Graham's performance against the suns was not upto AFL standards. We need a quality back up ruckman. Whilst Vickery could be that back up ruckman I would rather he stay in the forwardline where on form he provides a good second tall option. His kicking for goal is a real asset of his. Sadly I don't think Graham or Derrickx are upto the necessary standard and if we are to be a genuine finals contender we need a quality back up ruckman
Quote from: smokey_58au on October 12, 2012, 11:55:31 AMQuote from: Coach Davey on October 12, 2012, 11:47:39 AMExactly. An inform Vickery helping out Maric with Gus as backup is a decent set up.Won't get us to the finals if Maric goes down so it's not good enough imho.If Vickery & Graham couldn't play finals for Richmond without Ivan then we shouldn't be in finals contention. The bloke you guys should be worrying about is Trent Cotchin...if he gets injured then we start worrying. We should make finals with or without Maric next year. Obviously it would be hard but a Vickery/Graham (Graham playing with his 2010 intensity) should be able to hold up. Look at our midfielders, they should be getting the job done even if we brought back drink driving Royce to do the ruck work.
Quote from: Coach Davey on October 12, 2012, 11:47:39 AMExactly. An inform Vickery helping out Maric with Gus as backup is a decent set up.Won't get us to the finals if Maric goes down so it's not good enough imho.
Exactly. An inform Vickery helping out Maric with Gus as backup is a decent set up.
Quote from: Coach Davey on October 12, 2012, 12:00:31 PMQuote from: smokey_58au on October 12, 2012, 11:55:31 AMQuote from: Coach Davey on October 12, 2012, 11:47:39 AMExactly. An inform Vickery helping out Maric with Gus as backup is a decent set up.Won't get us to the finals if Maric goes down so it's not good enough imho.If Vickery & Graham couldn't play finals for Richmond without Ivan then we shouldn't be in finals contention. The bloke you guys should be worrying about is Trent Cotchin...if he gets injured then we start worrying. We should make finals with or without Maric next year. Obviously it would be hard but a Vickery/Graham (Graham playing with his 2010 intensity) should be able to hold up. Look at our midfielders, they should be getting the job done even if we brought back drink driving Royce to do the ruck work.We won't make finals if Vickery/Graham is our ruck combo, plain and simple. I reckon we can cover Cotch in the midfield easier than Maric in the ruck. Graham has been found wanting before and has no improvemenet left. The midfield apart from Tuck and Foley are all still babies and have heaps of improvement left in them.
Graham is not half as good as king or gardiner
Just because CD likes Gumby it doesn't mean we have to like him.
Sorry, forgot goose is a touchy subject
Quote from: WA Tiger on October 12, 2012, 08:54:48 AMQuote from: Coach Davey on October 12, 2012, 08:52:47 AMQuote from: WA Tiger on October 12, 2012, 08:39:06 AMI think we have done well during the trade and free agency period however I do believe we should of targeted a ruckman as well. Even if we have the chance to get one now we should go for it. If Maric goes down next year we just don't have the coverage. If we were playing Freo without Maric we would get smashed in the ruck, Maric could only just compete against Sandilands last year, imagine what would happen if he weren't in the side.I see this area as our only Achilles heal now, I really think we need to address it.....Thoughts??You do know that Angus Graham is undefeated against Fremantle? Including a very solid 14 disposal, 6 marks and 1 goal game against them in 2011.Well CD lets hope he gets it together mate, but he will need to pay all year..He is probably the best performed ruckman not playing regular AFL footy. If he wasn't on a list our supporters would probably look at his stats in the VFL and say "get this bloke as back up to Maric" Goose is capable of better footy. He showed that at a young age in 2010. Got far too comfortable though
Quote from: Coach Davey on October 12, 2012, 08:52:47 AMQuote from: WA Tiger on October 12, 2012, 08:39:06 AMI think we have done well during the trade and free agency period however I do believe we should of targeted a ruckman as well. Even if we have the chance to get one now we should go for it. If Maric goes down next year we just don't have the coverage. If we were playing Freo without Maric we would get smashed in the ruck, Maric could only just compete against Sandilands last year, imagine what would happen if he weren't in the side.I see this area as our only Achilles heal now, I really think we need to address it.....Thoughts??You do know that Angus Graham is undefeated against Fremantle? Including a very solid 14 disposal, 6 marks and 1 goal game against them in 2011.Well CD lets hope he gets it together mate, but he will need to pay all year..
Quote from: WA Tiger on October 12, 2012, 08:39:06 AMI think we have done well during the trade and free agency period however I do believe we should of targeted a ruckman as well. Even if we have the chance to get one now we should go for it. If Maric goes down next year we just don't have the coverage. If we were playing Freo without Maric we would get smashed in the ruck, Maric could only just compete against Sandilands last year, imagine what would happen if he weren't in the side.I see this area as our only Achilles heal now, I really think we need to address it.....Thoughts??You do know that Angus Graham is undefeated against Fremantle? Including a very solid 14 disposal, 6 marks and 1 goal game against them in 2011.
I think we have done well during the trade and free agency period however I do believe we should of targeted a ruckman as well. Even if we have the chance to get one now we should go for it. If Maric goes down next year we just don't have the coverage. If we were playing Freo without Maric we would get smashed in the ruck, Maric could only just compete against Sandilands last year, imagine what would happen if he weren't in the side.I see this area as our only Achilles heal now, I really think we need to address it.....Thoughts??
Quote from: Coach Davey on October 12, 2012, 08:59:45 AMQuote from: WA Tiger on October 12, 2012, 08:54:48 AMQuote from: Coach Davey on October 12, 2012, 08:52:47 AMQuote from: WA Tiger on October 12, 2012, 08:39:06 AMI think we have done well during the trade and free agency period however I do believe we should of targeted a ruckman as well. Even if we have the chance to get one now we should go for it. If Maric goes down next year we just don't have the coverage. If we were playing Freo without Maric we would get smashed in the ruck, Maric could only just compete against Sandilands last year, imagine what would happen if he weren't in the side.I see this area as our only Achilles heal now, I really think we need to address it.....Thoughts??You do know that Angus Graham is undefeated against Fremantle? Including a very solid 14 disposal, 6 marks and 1 goal game against them in 2011.Well CD lets hope he gets it together mate, but he will need to pay all year..He is probably the best performed ruckman not playing regular AFL footy. If he wasn't on a list our supporters would probably look at his stats in the VFL and say "get this bloke as back up to Maric" Goose is capable of better footy. He showed that at a young age in 2010. Got far too comfortable thoughAnd you would be the only one saying he is a potato.
That's not fishing. That's just an easy and convenient way to justify your opinion.
