What's our best 22 now?

[Judge Roughneck]

If u were coaching with Richmond, would u rather Jackson or Morris in there?

*coaching against Richmond

[tony_montana]

If u were coaching with Richmond, would u rather Jackson or Morris in there?

Morris so then one of my hack small fwds would kick a lazy bag of 5-6 bc there'd be no-one to stop him   

Jackson can be replaced in midfield much more readily than Morris in our backline

[Judge Roughneck]

Vlastuin. Helbig. Deaa would slot inti morris' spot, allowing Morris to move into the guts

[tony_montana]

Vlastuin. Helbig. Deaa would slot inti morris' spot, allowing Morris to move into the guts

As easy as that hey? 20 odd yrs we haven't been able to find a lockdown small defender that can do a number on the small fwds and all of a sudden we have 3 replacements that can just slot straight into the role   

[Penelope]

even the most experienced of the trio, Dea has a long way to go to catch up to morris. At this point only in courage could he be compared to Morris Helbig hasnt played a lot of footy at any level in recent times and hasnt shown a great deal when he has, and Vlastuin has had no more than a dozen training sessions at AFL level

It would be asking a lot for any of them to step up and replace morris next year and If I was an opposition coach I'd much rather any of them taking my best small/mid forward than Morris.

[Bird Man]

Vlastuin. Helbig. Deaa would slot inti morris' spot, allowing Morris to move into the guts

would rather slot newman into the guts

[Yeahright]

I rekon Helbig could slot into the tagging midfielder role easier than lockdown defender and then that leaves Morris where he is and where he does a damn good job

[gerkin greg]

Vlaustin wouldn't get a gig over Newman Tucker.

I've done my preferred 22 and I can't fit Newie in. Wishingful thinking though probably.

im in the same boat. whatwill happen though is newman will play the yr out and he will be shown the respect a 200 plus game recent captain of the club deserves.

i think newmans role in the backline does need reviewing by the club.
my personal preference is to see morris go into the midfield as our tagger. id like to see helbig given a crack at morriss role down back and i definately prefer to see vlastuin to start his career of a hbf working his way into the middle.
 i also would like to see conca go back to the hb line. lots of hb options with sml/med sized platers conca ellis  vlastuin helbig imo, morris batchelor and if mcintosh is to be a running player definately mcintosh.

Why fix what's not broken? Leave Morris he's been a defender his whole career why be fancy and try and change him. Its Mcintosh, Vickery, Astbury, Griffiths all over again   

 

[the claw]

Vlaustin wouldn't get a gig over Newman Tucker.

I've done my preferred 22 and I can't fit Newie in. Wishingful thinking though probably.

im in the same boat. whatwill happen though is newman will play the yr out and he will be shown the respect a 200 plus game recent captain of the club deserves.

i think newmans role in the backline does need reviewing by the club.
my personal preference is to see morris go into the midfield as our tagger. id like to see helbig given a crack at morriss role down back and i definately prefer to see vlastuin to start his career of a hbf working his way into the middle.
 i also would like to see conca go back to the hb line. lots of hb options with sml/med sized platers conca ellis  vlastuin helbig imo, morris batchelor and if mcintosh is to be a running player definately mcintosh.

Why fix what's not broken? Leave Morris he's been a defender his whole career why be fancy and try and change him. Its Mcintosh, Vickery, Astbury, Griffiths all over again   

touche .

how about in the pre season we try helbig in morris role and we play morris in the midfield as a tagger. if it fails of course we revert back to what has worked. if it works we add a string to morris bow and we add a hard at it defensive stopper to the backline. we create options.
the main reason i want to do this is because i believe helbig could do just as well as morris as a lock down medium defender.
morris imo has all the tools to lock down on any player anywhere on the ground mid forward back.  besides id trade my own mother in to see the back of jackson and morris in the midfield would do that.
for the last 30 yrs we have not just been looking for a lock down sml/med defender but a bloody decent midfield tagger as well.

oh comparing running players to talls well its just a bit different dont you think. we can play morris down back depending on matchups that would be his role we can play helbig midfield  but lets also develop him down back.
we have one player on the list of morris ilk anything that may help us uncover another like him is okay by me. its more about finding out if helbig can do his role. what the hell do we do if morris does an acl.

with our talls we have singlemindedly played them out of positionand tried to turn them into something they are not its okay to try something but when it doesnt work.

you trying to tell me morris can shut down a player in the forward line but cant do the exact same role elsewhere. i disagree im happy to try and im happy to move him if a player like helbig can do his role well.

[Yeahright]

Vlaustin wouldn't get a gig over Newman Tucker.

I've done my preferred 22 and I can't fit Newie in. Wishingful thinking though probably.

im in the same boat. whatwill happen though is newman will play the yr out and he will be shown the respect a 200 plus game recent captain of the club deserves.

i think newmans role in the backline does need reviewing by the club.
my personal preference is to see morris go into the midfield as our tagger. id like to see helbig given a crack at morriss role down back and i definately prefer to see vlastuin to start his career of a hbf working his way into the middle.
 i also would like to see conca go back to the hb line. lots of hb options with sml/med sized platers conca ellis  vlastuin helbig imo, morris batchelor and if mcintosh is to be a running player definately mcintosh.

Why fix what's not broken? Leave Morris he's been a defender his whole career why be fancy and try and change him. Its Mcintosh, Vickery, Astbury, Griffiths all over again   

touche .

how about in the pre season we try helbig in morris role and we play morris in the midfield as a tagger. if it fails of course we revert back to what has worked. if it works we add a string to morris bow and we add a hard at it defensive stopper to the backline. we create options.
the main reason i want to do this is because i believe helbig could do just as well as morris as a lock down medium defender.
morris imo has all the tools to lock down on any player anywhere on the ground mid forward back.  besides id trade my own mother in to see the back of jackson and morris in the midfield would do that.
for the last 30 yrs we have not just been looking for a lock down sml/med defender but a bloody decent midfield tagger as well.

oh comparing running players to talls well its just a bit different dont you think. we can play morris down back depending on matchups that would be his role we can play helbig midfield  but lets also develop him down back.
we have one player on the list of morris ilk anything that may help us uncover another like him is okay by me. its more about finding out if helbig can do his role. what the hell do we do if morris does an acl.

with our talls we have singlemindedly played them out of positionand tried to turn them into something they are not its okay to try something but when it doesnt work.

you trying to tell me morris can shut down a player in the forward line but cant do the exact same role elsewhere. i disagree im happy to try and im happy to move him if a player like helbig can do his role well.

I can't take your argument seriously after the stuff you've said about McIntosh.

[RedanTiger]

Our best 22 now?

Considering the Richmond injury list: Foley, Grimes, King, Chaplin, Knights, Maric, Riewoldt, Deledio, Helbig.

Griffiths        Rance         Houli
Morris          Astbury      Batchelor
Ellis             Tuck           Grigg
Martin        McGuane    Edwards A
Nahas        Elton         Derickx
Vickery      Cotchin     Edwards S
Jackson, Conca, Newman, White
         

[Stripes]

Our best 22 now?

Considering the Richmond injury list: Foley, Grimes, King, Chaplin, Knights, Maric, Riewoldt, Deledio, Helbig.

Griffiths        Rance         Houli
Morris          Astbury      Batchelor
Ellis             Tuck           Grigg
Martin        McGuane    Edwards A
Nahas        Elton         Derickx
Vickery      Cotchin     Edwards S
Jackson, Conca, Newman, White
         

Realistically the team probably will look like that at some stages throughout the year. That team is called the 'Depth Team' and looks ordinary in comparison. Most of the Injury list besides Helbig and possibly Knights at this stage, are first choice players so lets hope they all come good for round one. 

[mightytiges]

Our best 22 now?

Considering the Richmond injury list: Foley, Grimes, King, Chaplin, Knights, Maric, Riewoldt, Deledio, Helbig.

Griffiths        Rance         Houli
Morris          Astbury      Batchelor
Ellis             Tuck           Grigg
Martin        McGuane    Edwards A
Nahas        Elton         Derickx
Vickery      Cotchin     Edwards S
Jackson, Conca, Newman, White
         

Grimes appears to be the only definite long-term query at this stage. So Griffs will need to remain in defence. Foley is probably the next one in doubt as to whether his achilles can hold up. So at the moment I think our best 22 in the Club's eyes is:
,
B:    Rance       Chaplin      Morris
HB:  Houli        Griffiths    Batchelor
C:    Grigg        Deledio      Conca
HF: S.Edwards  Riewoldt   Knights
F:    Vickery     A.Edwards  Martin
R:    Maric    Tuck    Cotchin
Int: Ellis, Newman, Jackson
Sub: Vlastuin

I wouldn't have Jacko and Aaron Edwards in the side but the coaches love Jacko and I've got a feeling, as they did with Miller, the Club will play Edwards to begin with until his form drops away and one of the young talls pushes him out.

[the claw]

Vlaustin wouldn't get a gig over Newman Tucker.

I've done my preferred 22 and I can't fit Newie in. Wishingful thinking though probably.

im in the same boat. whatwill happen though is newman will play the yr out and he will be shown the respect a 200 plus game recent captain of the club deserves.

i think newmans role in the backline does need reviewing by the club.
my personal preference is to see morris go into the midfield as our tagger. id like to see helbig given a crack at morriss role down back and i definately prefer to see vlastuin to start his career of a hbf working his way into the middle.
 i also would like to see conca go back to the hb line. lots of hb options with sml/med sized platers conca ellis  vlastuin helbig imo, morris batchelor and if mcintosh is to be a running player definately mcintosh.

Why fix what's not broken? Leave Morris he's been a defender his whole career why be fancy and try and change him. Its Mcintosh, Vickery, Astbury, Griffiths all over again   

touche .

how about in the pre season we try helbig in morris role and we play morris in the midfield as a tagger. if it fails of course we revert back to what has worked. if it works we add a string to morris bow and we add a hard at it defensive stopper to the backline. we create options.
the main reason i want to do this is because i believe helbig could do just as well as morris as a lock down medium defender.
morris imo has all the tools to lock down on any player anywhere on the ground mid forward back.  besides id trade my own mother in to see the back of jackson and morris in the midfield would do that.
for the last 30 yrs we have not just been looking for a lock down sml/med defender but a bloody decent midfield tagger as well.

oh comparing running players to talls well its just a bit different dont you think. we can play morris down back depending on matchups that would be his role we can play helbig midfield  but lets also develop him down back.
we have one player on the list of morris ilk anything that may help us uncover another like him is okay by me. its more about finding out if helbig can do his role. what the hell do we do if morris does an acl.

with our talls we have singlemindedly played them out of positionand tried to turn them into something they are not its okay to try something but when it doesnt work.

you trying to tell me morris can shut down a player in the forward line but cant do the exact same role elsewhere. i disagree im happy to try and im happy to move him if a player like helbig can do his role well.

I can't take your argument seriously after the stuff you've said about McIntosh.

to be honest i really dont care either way.  i have an opinion on a tagger yes morris is a tagger i happen to think he can tag in the midfield as well.we have a dumb arse hack in jackson who manages to tag okay at times  matt white is as poor as they come yet hes done resonable at times with the tag role all im saying is we have a bloke who is already a run with player does a good job i can see no reason why he cant perform that role on a mid.

mcintosh is a 192 cm tall defender whos played his whole career in defense.
we openly state we are after mids and then try and tell everyone we took one in mcintoish because peel gave him a few games on the wing.
if you cant tell the difference well whats the point  as i said i dont care either way what you think. your entitled to your opinion.

[Yeahright]

to be honest i really dont care either way.  i have an opinion on a tagger yes morris is a tagger i happen to think he can tag in the midfield as well.we have a dumb arse hack in jackson who manages to tag okay at times  matt white is as poor as they come yet hes done resonable at times with the tag role all im saying is we have a bloke who is already a run with player does a good job i can see no reason why he cant perform that role on a mid.

mcintosh is a 192 cm tall defender whos played his whole career in defense.
we openly state we are after mids and then try and tell everyone we took one in mcintoish because peel gave him a few games on the wing.
if you cant tell the difference well whats the point  as i said i dont care either way what you think. your entitled to your opinion.

Actually McIntosh played his juniors as a forward. Why don't you want to try Helbig in the taggers role? Instead of swapping 2 players around and possibly screwing us over in two positions, leave Morris where he had a very good year and let Helbig make his own position.