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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #165 on: March 09, 2013, 05:14:50 PM »
My update after NAB 3:

B:    Morris         Rance       Batchelor
HB:  Houli         Chaplin       Petterd
C:  Newman      Martin         Ellis
HF:  Vlastuin     Riewoldt    Deledio
F:  S.Edwards   Vickery      Knights
R:  Maric    Tuck    Cotchin
Int: Grigg, Conca, Griffiths
Sub: King

nb. Grimes would replace one of Griffiths/Batchelor and Foley would replace one of King/Knights if they were fit to play in round 1.

For round 1 though I've got a feeling Dimma will have Jacko as a tagger in instead of Knights.
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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #166 on: March 09, 2013, 05:43:18 PM »
My update after NAB 3:

B:    Morris         Rance       Batchelor
HB:  Houli         Chaplin       Petterd
C:  Newman      Martin         Ellis
HF:  Vlastuin     Riewoldt    Deledio
F:  S.Edwards   Vickery      Knights
R:  Maric    Tuck    Cotchin
Int: Grigg, Conca, Griffiths
Sub: King

nb. Grimes would replace one of Griffiths/Batchelor and Foley would replace one of King/Knights if they were fit to play in round 1.

For round 1 though I've got a feeling Dimma will have Jacko as a tagger in instead of Knights.

Strong squad there MT. Based purely on form, reckon you could almost argue White as an inclusion over Jackson or Knights. They all play slightly different games, but horses for courses, if we weren't required to hard tag anyone rather than just give a particular player a hard time at certain times, White's speed and carry would be really handy. Both White and Houli streaming through the guts and capitalising from midfield turnovers would really give some opposition teams headaches.

Is a poo ruck, but could even take a look at McGuane for Vickery. On form has earned it, and what I've liked about McGuane since the end of last season and this NAB Cup is his awareness of his limitations and not trying to fool anyone. At least he has a contest, clunks a few, kicks a few, and has even taken a few blokes on carrying the footy. Probably one of our more reliable set shots at the moment too  :help Vickery has had plenty of time to recover from his injuries and has had heaps of minutes in the pre-season, so there isn't really any excuse for being soft and a plodder by Round 3.

With the three rounds over my major observations have been,

Pros:
VLASTUIN!
Petterd.
For the first time in yonks we have a really solid back line. Can lose a bloke or two and have viable backups. I really like Batchelor and always have, but like last year the same key areas may hold him back from being a lock. Still comfortable with him in the side though.
Midfield is elite. Today aside, inside and outside IMO we're match up for match up right there with the best sides.
Depth. Lonergan and A. Edwards and co. may not have been recruited as starting replacements, but at least we don't have blokes like Webberly to come in anymore.


Cons:
Forward line.
Forward 50 entry.
Still getting skittish when opposition teams come string and ramp up the pressure.
Vickery.


There are more, but these are just the most important ones I could pick out at the moment.

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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #167 on: March 09, 2013, 09:20:23 PM »
Newman         Rance          Ellis
Houli              Chaplin         Petterd
Conca            Martin           Grigg
Vlastuin         Riewoldt       Deledio
S.Edwards     Griffiths        Nahas
Maric              Tuck             Cotchin
Knights          McGuane       Jackson         White         


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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #168 on: March 09, 2013, 10:22:16 PM »
I wonder how many that had "lockup" in their best 22 would still have him in now.

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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #169 on: March 10, 2013, 12:25:12 AM »
I reckon jackson, white and mcguane may all be considered for rd 1, don't know I agree with that but that's the feeling I get. White has shown a lot more than the other 2 but it just comes down to who is the best for each role and who can perform dual roles which is equally important ie: miidfield/fwd rotations and not be just making up the numbers
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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #170 on: March 10, 2013, 02:11:26 AM »
Gerard Healy best 22 does not include

Conca
Pettard.
Bachelor.
Griffiths.
Jackson.
White
Dea

Etc

Does include mcgaune. Who I think Tony Shaw caller a "very good player"...
Nahas, King, Knights are some borderline players included.



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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #171 on: March 10, 2013, 02:54:21 AM »
The games I've. Watched I've noticed Ellis more than Conca, maybe due to Reece coming back from a foot/ankle injury? Might have to watche replay and see again what I think
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cant leave out bach.
« Reply #172 on: March 10, 2013, 03:04:45 AM »
Chaplin. Grimes. Vlastuin.
Ellis. ARance. Houli/Bachelor.
Grigg. Cotchin. S.Edwards.
Newman. Griffiths. Conca.
Martin. Riewoldt. Vickery.
Maric. Deledio. Foley.
Morris. Nahas. Pettard. Tuck.
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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #173 on: March 10, 2013, 09:12:47 AM »
The games I've. Watched I've noticed Ellis more than Conca, maybe due to Reece coming back from a foot/ankle injury? Might have to watche replay and see again what I think

Different types of player too EEA.  Conca is more in and under while Ellis is a Grigg clone.  Without taking notice, I reckon you will always notice what Ellis does more easily.  Having said that, I thought Conca was serviceable yesterday while Ellis played well.

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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #174 on: March 10, 2013, 10:51:27 AM »
Petterd is not in our best 22. He's depth and will have to do a lot to even be considered best 22 this year.
Here's my 22

FB Ellis Rance Houli
HB Grimes Chaplin Morris
C Edwards Cotchin Conca
HF King Vickery Newman
FF Nahas Reiwoldt Griffiths
FOLL Maric Martin Deledio
INT Foley Vlastuin Tuck Grigg
EMER Batchelor Astbury Jackson Ohanlon

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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #175 on: March 10, 2013, 11:00:45 AM »
Reckon white will be sub round 1

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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #176 on: March 10, 2013, 11:10:31 AM »
Petterd is not in our best 22. He's depth and will have to do a lot to even be considered best 22 this year.
Here's my 22

FB Ellis Rance Houli
HB Grimes Chaplin Morris
C Edwards Cotchin Conca
HF King Vickery Newman
FF Nahas Reiwoldt Griffiths
FOLL Maric Martin Deledio
INT Foley Vlastuin Tuck Grigg
EMER Batchelor Astbury Jackson Ohanlon

Petterd seems to be a much better player than Morris IMHO.

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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #177 on: March 10, 2013, 11:21:57 AM »
Petterd is not in our best 22. He's depth and will have to do a lot to even be considered best 22 this year.
Here's my 22

FB Ellis Rance Houli
HB Grimes Chaplin Morris
C Edwards Cotchin Conca
HF King Vickery Newman
FF Nahas Reiwoldt Griffiths
FOLL Maric Martin Deledio
INT Foley Vlastuin Tuck Grigg
EMER Batchelor Astbury Jackson Ohanlon

Petterd seems to be a much better player than Morris IMHO.

No way. Morris is a machine

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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #178 on: March 10, 2013, 11:23:00 AM »
AND ESSENDON are the WAR MACHINE  ;D

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Re: What's our best 22 now?
« Reply #179 on: March 10, 2013, 12:09:59 PM »
Petterd is not in our best 22. He's depth and will have to do a lot to even be considered best 22 this year.
Here's my 22

FB Ellis Rance Houli
HB Grimes Chaplin Morris
C Edwards Cotchin Conca
HF King Vickery Newman
FF Nahas Reiwoldt Griffiths
FOLL Maric Martin Deledio
INT Foley Vlastuin Tuck Grigg
EMER Batchelor Astbury Jackson Ohanlon

Petterd seems to be a much better player than Morris IMHO.

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