Lol so now the cut off point to be called experienced is 200 games.
We have plenty of experienced players. How many times does it need to be done.How many times do people need to ignore it.
Nankervis, Lynch, Prestia who we also kept for experience, Short who they keep playing, Broad, Vlastuin, Balta has over 100 games Ross, Hopper, Taranto, Kossie, Mansell, Lefau, Young, Miller. Are all mature players aged 24 or more. 9 of em have at least 100 games and the majority of the rest have been on the list for 3 or more years.
Experienced is an excuse. Richo is entitled to his opinion but boy i rarely ever listen to what he has to say because he is always wrong.
Simply put the argument is not about experience. its about 1/ how well he plays 2/ what he actually brings on game day and 3/ the biggie to be asked is he taking the spot away from a kid simply because of sentiment?
On All three he gets a fail.
Why would it have been so hard to keep him around the club in some sort of capacity without putting him on the list. Anyone want to answer that one?
He would have made a good leader for all the kids that are coming playing VFL.
Think you're wrong on this one
Mate i get plenty wrong but on this i think im right.
I have already shot the we need him for experience call down. Something his defenders just plain ignore.
We are not bereft of mature and experienced players. Anyone want to actually put up an opposing argument here?
There is no call for us to keep him solely for that reason. In fact it is wrong. imo we are not short of experienced players or more to the point that devoid of them that we have to desperately hang onto underperformers like McIntosh. I have given a pretty decent list to suggest im right.
There is nothing but he is good around the club and he has high training standards. That is the pro's for giving him another year on the list. Thanks but no thanks for me.
Another question apart from the shot down experience crap. given the other two things they think we need to keep him for, why would we not get him off the list as we are wasting a spot and denying someone a go on the list. What is so hard about finding a role for him within the club either coaching or even playing VFL. Anyone want to answer.
Iv'e been happy to go into his form, his stats his foibles on field and the players who need to be tried in his role. All just ignored so why bother again.
Are we having a debate ? well only one side is making any relevant points here..Seems it does not suit the pro crowd to enter into a factual debate nope lets just be ignorant and ignore it again.
At least i list good reasons why we should not keep him, all i get back is the spurious oh he is good around the club and he trains hard.
Mate given that you went salty and MIA when we got the 2017 flag after all the nonsense you said beforehand I think we can agree you get plenty wrong from time to time and maybe aren't the best judge of where the club is at culturally etc.
I think the club is better positioned now than it has been most of the last 40 years.
If they see benefit and value in keeping KMac I agree and support their decision.
So you admit your nothing more than a yes man and don't have an opinion.. If the club says it is so it must be right hey.
The question you need to ask yourself is do you see benefit and value in keeping Flappers? rather than just parroting what the club thinks.
You can think what you like about 2017 nice deflection anyway. Still refusing to make a case for why we should keep McIntosh. So now its if the club sees a benefit then its good enough for me, and it should be good enough for all of us.. Thats not an argument.
We are having a debate about SHOULD we have kept McIntosh if so why.
Funny enough no one wants to talk about why we should keep him. Is that because there is not a very good case to be made as to why we should keep him.
Obviously the club see something god knows what, but apart from, He is a good trainer and he is good around the club what else have they or anyone else here come up with.
OH THATS RIGHT WE ARE BEREFT OF EXPERIENCE.
Who here agrees with that after being shown the list of 100 plus game players and regular 24yrs and older players we have still.
Are people that pathetic that they cannot admit that we do not indeed lack experienced players.
Does anyone want to make a better case for him other than the spurious clap trap that has been dished up so far.