Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS

[one-eyed]

Damien Barrett on twitter saying the 'Weapon' Dean Robinson has been sacked by Essendon. No confirmation from the Bombers yet.

Damian Barrett ‏@barrettdamian
"People at Essendon need to be really, really careful from here on in about what they say they knew and did. Really careful"



Open letter from the Essendon president tonight. They are going the silent treatment.

http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/2013-02-05/open-letter

According to SEN, Geelong and Gold Coast have tonight denied any wrongdoing at their clubs by individuals (who were at Essendon last year) when they were at the Cats and Suns.

[WilliamPowell]

whats ur gut feel WP. Goneski?

Surely they are screwed if what you say is true and that it is a banned substance

For Healy to even suggest that they may as a club be banned for 2 years makes me think it might just happen. Healy isn't one to go off a tangent for the sake of it. That's usaully the domain of the Binhider Barrett, Hutchy etc of the media

Suppose it all comes down to whether officialdom believe the ignorance defence

My gut feel is Essendon is in massive strife and going by the collectively looks on the faces of Evans, Robson and golden boy Hird today at the presser I reckon they know it

[WilliamPowell]

Damien Barrett on twitter saying the 'Weapon' Dean Robinson has been sacked by Essendon. No confirmation from the Bombers yet.

Damian Barrett ‏@barrettdamian
"People at Essendon need to be really, really careful from here on in about what they say they knew and did. Really careful

Wonder if Barrett bothered to caution Kyle Reimers to be "real careful" about what he should say prior to Barrett interviewing him

[dwaino]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/dream-team-in-trouble-20130205-2dwkc.html

Caro putting in the boots.

[mightytiges]

WADA code:


S2. Peptide Hormones, Growth Factors and Related Substances

If a Substance or Method is not defined in this list, please verify with your Anti-Doping Organization.
The following substances and their releasing factors are prohibited:

* Erythropoiesis-Stimulating Agents [e.g. erythropoietin (EPO), darbepoetin (dEPO), hypoxia-inducible factor (HIF) stabilizers, methoxy polyethylene glycol-epoetin beta (CERA), peginesatide (Hematide)]
* Chorionic Gonadotrophin (CG) and Luteinizing Hormone (LH) in males
* Corticotrophins
* Growth Hormone (GH), Insulin-like Growth Factor-1 (IGF-1), Fibroblast Growth Factors (FGFs), Hepatocyte Growth Factor (HGF), Mechano Growth Factors (MGFs), Platelet-Derived Growth Factor (PDGF), Vascular-Endothelial Growth Factor (VEGF) as well as any other growth factor affecting muscle, tendon or ligament protein synthesis/degradation, vascularisation, energy utilization, regenerative capacity or fibre type switching

and other substances with similar chemical structure or similar biological effect(s).

http://list.wada-ama.org/list/s2-peptide-hormones-growth-factors-and-related-substances/

[tiger101]

Someone posted this article on bigfooty showing previous bans held up by ASADA.

The Australian Rugby Union have banned Sunshine Coast Stingrays player and coach, Francis Burke, for four years for the possession and attempted trafficking of growth hormone releasing peptide-6.
The ban has been upheld by the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority (ASADA), who were originally alerted to a suspect package by customs in Sydney on November 28 2010.
Following an extensive investigation by ASADA, the matter was referred to the ARU as a potential violation of its anti-doping code.


Read more: http://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/sunshine-coast-rugby-player-francis-burke-cops-four-year-ban-for-possession-of-growth-hormone/story-e6frf4pu-1226375861924#ixzz2K1X9Xgot

[Yeahright]

I read it was SARMS

[mightytiges]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/dream-team-in-trouble-20130205-2dwkc.html

Caro putting in the boots.

She mentions Lonergan as an informer along with Reimers.

"For some time the view at the top was that disgruntled former players, who appear to include Kyle Reimers and Sam Lonergan, have been raising concerns about untoward practices at the club last year which saw players sign waivers before injecting certain supplements that may or may not prove illegal."

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/dream-team-in-trouble-20130205-2dwkc.html#ixzz2K1XK48wA

[mightytiges]

I read it was SARMS

Well SARMS are definitely banned by WADA.

Although they have been banned for the past few years by the World Anti-Doping Agency, and there have been efforts underway to develop a testing protocol for them, there is currently no accepted testing procedure in place. The relatively short half life of SARMs, the uniqueness of their structure, their effectiveness, and the fact that research into their development is still in its infancy, presents a new and novel problem for doping authorities everywhere.

http://www.sarmsinfo.com/

[one-eyed]

AFL site has gone into meltdown over this. A link that doesn't work had the heading that the Weapon has been sacked by Essendon as Barrett alluded to before.


AFLPA statement:

[Smokey]

I'm loving this. Lapping up the tears on bummer blitz http://www.bomberblitz.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=66590&st=60

edit: actually, start that thread from the start. It's fun reading their casual jest suddenly turn into meltdown.

How funny is this read!!

And my favourite post:

we'd be the only organisation to take performance enhancing drugs and get 5hitter as a result

 

[mightytiges]

Someone posted this article on bigfooty showing previous bans held up by ASADA.

The Australian Rugby Union have banned Sunshine Coast Stingrays player and coach, Francis Burke, for four years for the possession and attempted trafficking of growth hormone releasing peptide-6.
The ban has been upheld by the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority (ASADA), who were originally alerted to a suspect package by customs in Sydney on November 28 2010.
Following an extensive investigation by ASADA, the matter was referred to the ARU as a potential violation of its anti-doping code.


Read more: http://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/sunshine-coast-rugby-player-francis-burke-cops-four-year-ban-for-possession-of-growth-hormone/story-e6frf4pu-1226375861924#ixzz2K1X9Xgot

Greg Baum mentions the story of rugby players being banned last year in his article tonight.

Last year, says ASADA's register, three Queensland amateur rugby players were caught in possession of, using and/or trafficking peptide, and suspended for two to four years.

ASADA makes no allowance for the unsuspecting. ''Athletes are responsible for any substance found in their body,'' said an addendum to a release last year. ''There have been cases where … athletes have been sanctioned after they have used supplements that they thought were OK, but which were actually contaminated with prohibited substances.''

Of course, this is going straight to the last page that Evans, for one, hopes and says will not be written. But it was also patently clear yesterday that even he, Hird and Robson are turning the pages apprehensively. They refused all questions on what they now know, batting away one about a claim that players had signed waivers, for instance.

In the public domain, this much is evident. For two years, Essendon has been vexed by injuries and the management of them. Player conditioning was overseen by Dean Robinson, a controversial and remote figure. Late last year, Stephen Dank, a colleague of Robinson's at several previous clubs, left the Bombers. Rumours of irregularities have bubbled since the middle of last year, but were dismissed by the club as recently as Monday evening.

Then something changed. On Tuesday, the Bombers threw up their hands, not in surrender, but as if to say: ''Damned if we know what's going on. You tell us.''

Soon enough, ASADA will.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/confusion-forces-dons-to-seek-clarity-20130205-2dwlw.html#ixzz2K1enlv5w

[dwaino]

10 News just had some lawyer bloke who has worked for ASADA and other joints in the past. Said that standard sanctions start at 2 years. If anyone is guilty of supplying or selling or whatever then it will be elevated to trafficking which is 4 years to life ban. An ignorant plea isn't accepted as he said the way the laws stand are that you are responsible for what is found in your body. You can argue that you were supplied or advised by a doctor or club or whatever and may be able to get a reduction from the 2 years, but unlikely to get it entirely lifted.


So from what I can understand:
There are no grey areas and there are no excuses. If they have used anything prohibited then a lot of people from the EFC will be on holidays and/or the club will face sanctions. No ifs, buts, sorrys, almosts etc etc.

 

[Ox]

It's almost too good to be true

[Francois Jackson]

It's almost too good to be true

i concur,