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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #855 on: July 12, 2013, 07:39:31 PM »
I don't regret AOD admission: Watson

By Ben Guthrie
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Friday, July 12, 2013



ESSENDON captain Jobe Watson does not regret his public admission that he believes he was administered the anti-obesity drug AOD-9604.

Watson told On The Couch last month he thinks he was administered the drug, which is on the World Anti-Doping Agency's banned list, during the 2012 season.

Last year's Brownlow medallist said he could not bother himself with retracting his comments, but could not say why he chose the public forum.

"I suppose with the interview it's a very sensitive subject at the moment and what's happened has happened and I can't control that anymore," Watson told radio station Fox FM on Friday morning.

"I've said what I've said and I've done what I've done and I'm not going to live retrospectively.

"But like everyone I'm waiting for the investigation to be complete."

Watson said the whole process was unprecedented.

"It was a new frontier for us. The experience of having that many injections was something I had not experienced in AFL football before," he said.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-07-12/i-dont-regret-it-jobe

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Demetriou has doubts over AOD-9604 drug (Age)
« Reply #856 on: July 13, 2013, 01:28:08 AM »
Demetriou has doubts over drug

    Jon Pierik
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    July 13, 2013


Andrew Demetriou has reopened the debate over the legality of the anti-obesity drug AOD-9604, claiming there is a ''classification issue'' about the supplement believed to have been administered to Essendon's players last year.

In its February report, the Australian Crime Commission says of the AOD-9604 peptide: ''During phase two clinical trials it was also found to have an anabolic effect to cartilage tissue and may promote cartilage creation and repair and have a capacity to enhance muscle formation.'' But it then adds: ''AOD-9604 is not currently a WADA prohibited substance.''

However, later in the report, it says, ''AOD-9604 is not currently prohibited under category S2 of the WADA prohibited list. AOD-9604 is not approved for human use.''

The drug is not banned under section S.2 because its performance-enhancing benefits are in question.

The Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority, though, maintains the drug was banned under the ''catch-all'' section S.0 since 2011, although it had to clarify this in April.

It's this grey area that Essendon hopes it can use to prove it was misled by ASADA, although an alleged letter given to former sports scientist Stephen Dank confirming the drug was not banned has yet to be publicly seen. Dank has refused to help authorities.

Having returned from a mid-season break, Demetriou, the AFL chief executive, said on Friday there were still issues about AOD-9604.

''There is a view from WADA that they have deemed AOD-9604 to be banned. The AFL received the ACC report where it was determined in that report that it wasn't banned,'' he said. ''There is an issue around whether it is banned or not banned. There is a classification issue around that, but again I am not going to speculate … other than to say this investigation is coming to an end.''

The classification of AOD-9604 is a key part of Essendon's defence, reinforced in a message to Essendon members from club chairman David Evans last week when he said experts had declared the drug was not performance enhancing. He also did not concede players had been administered the drug in 2012.

ASADA maintains AOD-9604 is banned under S.0, and is classified as: ''Any pharmacological substance which is not addressed by any of the subsequent sections of the list and with no current approval by any governmental regulatory health authority for human therapeutic use (e.g drugs under pre-clinical or clinical development or discontinued, designer drugs, substances approved only for veterinary use) is prohibited at all times."

Essendon captain Jobe Watson, who said he believed he had been administered the drug, said on Friday he was looking forward to the investigation ending.

While there has been a focus on the anti-obesity drug, players may have also taken Melantonan II, anti-ageing drug TA65, Interleukin 6 and Cerebrolysin.

Speaking on 3AW, Demetriou said: ''We do believe we might have an outcome before the end of August. That's what we are working towards.

''We are not trying to expedite the process. Everyone has been interviewed, it's been an extensive investigation, 130 interviews, but hopefully that's the timeline we work towards.''

Demetriou said if a player was charged, he would appear before an AFL tribunal.

AFL Players Association chief executive Matt Finnis maintains players are not to blame, despite signing consent forms.

Players could face bans of up to two years, but these could be extinguished under a ''no-fault'' clause.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/demetriou-has-doubts-over-drug-20130712-2pv5z.html#ixzz2YqTUWCvF

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #857 on: July 13, 2013, 02:29:47 AM »
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #858 on: July 13, 2013, 03:40:00 PM »
the rules clearly say that any substance not approved for human use is illegal.
Stuff me, that rule is a safety net for such legal maneuvering and now that dictatorial little turd is trying it on.

But really, how clear cut can that be? drug not appoved for human use = banned substance.

Andy just wants to...
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So are my ways higher than your ways,
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #859 on: July 13, 2013, 04:15:03 PM »
the rules clearly say that any substance not approved for human use is illegal.
Stuff me, that rule is a safety net for such legal maneuvering and now that dictatorial little turd is trying it on.

But really, how clear cut can that be? drug not appoved for human use = banned substance.

Andy just wants to...

I'm surprised Andy D has any room left under that carpet with 'tanking', 'salary cap cheating' and Jeff Gieschen already hiding under there  ;)  ;D.
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #860 on: July 13, 2013, 04:16:56 PM »
and harbouring alleged rapists
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #861 on: July 13, 2013, 05:56:02 PM »
the rules clearly say that any substance not approved for human use is illegal.
Stuff me, that rule is a safety net for such legal maneuvering and now that dictatorial little turd is trying it on.

But really, how clear cut can that be? drug not appoved for human use = banned substance.

Andy just wants to...

I'm surprised Andy D has any room left under that carpet with 'tanking', 'salary cap cheating' and Jeff Gieschen already hiding under there  ;)  ;D.

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #862 on: July 13, 2013, 06:03:38 PM »
and harbouring alleged rapists

 :clapping

Any other professional workplace involving the public and they would be stood down.

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #863 on: July 13, 2013, 07:34:00 PM »
Andy D should just step down. This has all happened on his watch and all he does is ignore the issues.
Changes and ignorance during his tenure has left the game worse off. :help

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #864 on: July 13, 2013, 07:35:33 PM »
the rules clearly say that any substance not approved for human use is illegal.
Stuff me, that rule is a safety net for such legal maneuvering and now that dictatorial little turd is trying it on.

But really, how clear cut can that be? drug not appoved for human use = banned substance.

Andy just wants to...

I'm surprised Andy D has any room left under that carpet with 'tanking', 'salary cap cheating' and Jeff Gieschen already hiding under there  ;)  ;D.

You have never spoken truer words MT!   :thumbsup

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #865 on: July 13, 2013, 07:36:26 PM »
Andy D should just step down. This has all happened on his watch and all he does is ignore the issues.
Changes and ignorance during his tenure has left the game worse off. :help

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #866 on: July 13, 2013, 08:07:54 PM »
Andy D should just step down. This has all happened on his watch and all he does is ignore the issues.
Changes and ignorance during his tenure has left the game worse off. :help

He goes on holiday  :o

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #867 on: July 13, 2013, 10:37:49 PM »
Andy D should just step down. This has all happened on his watch and all he does is ignore the issues.
Changes and ignorance during his tenure has left the game worse off. :help

He goes on holiday  :o

That's Giesche.
He goes to the Olympics on AFL research. ::)

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Bombers optimistic on players (Age)
« Reply #868 on: July 14, 2013, 02:08:51 AM »
Bombers optimistic on players

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    July 14, 2013

''I think that's where the confidence out of Essendon is so strong. I am just believing now from a comment Gillon [McLachlan] made last week, Andrew Demetriou yesterday [Friday], the way Matty Finnis represented the players - the club is at fault here,'' Lloyd said on 3AW. ''It just seems like a big fine for the club, maybe [the loss of] draft picks, but the Essendon Football Club believes premiership points won't be a factor and the players should be OK.''

The AFL has said any punishment could include the loss of premiership points. As the Bombers are ensconced in the top eight, this could mean the team in ninth position could slip into the finals.

Former St Kilda coach Grant Thomas took to Twitter on Saturday, claiming: ''Andy preparing us for soft decision re Bomber drug issue. Weighed in with doubt around drug being on banned list. WADA says it's banned.''

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/bombers-optimistic-on-players-20130713-2px5q.html#ixzz2YwUQDHvk
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe
« Reply #869 on: July 14, 2013, 02:16:51 AM »