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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3751 on: January 12, 2016, 01:43:53 PM »


Yep that's correct, those samples were one of the main points of WADA's appeal

The Age lets you download the full 48 page judgement by the CAS


Looking for it, can't seem to find it.

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3752 on: January 12, 2016, 01:49:28 PM »


Yep that's correct, those samples were one of the main points of WADA's appeal

The Age lets you download the full 48 page judgement by the CAS


Looking for it, can't seem to find it.

Found it  :thumbsup

http://www.tas-cas.org/fileadmin/user_upload/Arbitral_Award_WADA_ESSENDON.pdf

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Re: Essendon players victims, not perpetrators: AFL Players Association
« Reply #3753 on: January 12, 2016, 02:11:11 PM »

We have maintained a consistent position that these players did nothing wrong, and today’s decision does nothing to change our view.

It is important to note that the players took all reasonable steps to assure themselves that what they were being given was compliant with the WADA Code. They expressly sought confirmation that all supplements they were to be provided were in compliance with the Code, and were provided with written documentation to this effect.

http://www.aflplayers.com.au/article/essendon-players-victims-not-perpetrators-marsh/

And that is where the CAS was in total DISAGREEEMNT - in their findings they suggest that the players didn't take enough reasonable steps"

As I said their report is damning

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3754 on: January 12, 2016, 02:25:45 PM »
point 82 is the money section
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3755 on: January 12, 2016, 02:32:55 PM »
I applaud WADA, the alleged paper Lion.
Thanks for exposing these corrupt digs known as the afl.
LMAO at them conducting an investigation in conjunction with asada.
How belligerently stupid are these pricks.

Spot on  Ox, highlights how bloody corrupt the AFL were in trying to get this swept under the carpet.

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3756 on: January 12, 2016, 02:51:45 PM »
point 82 is the money section

Yep

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3757 on: January 12, 2016, 02:55:48 PM »
Here's the full 48 page judgement from CAS.

http://www.tas-cas.org/fileadmin/user_upload/Arbitral_Award_WADA_ESSENDON.pdf

Some of the Bomber players' evidence is hilarious just for their own stupidity :lol. Such as McVeigh claiming he was given some other non-prohibited substance instead (that had a tanning effect) yet he experienced no tanning  :rollin. I thought it was only Vitamin injections wasn't it, Mark :stupid  :rollin.



Effectively,

* CAS was satisfied that Dank had a history of using TB-4 peptides in athletic programs.

* CAS was satisfied that Dank was in possession of TB-4 vials at Essendon.

* Evidence (from a Dr Cox that was not available at the AFL hearing) was given showing the only possible Thymosin used in the injection regime was the banned TB-4. The legal 'alpha' version isn't used for recovery and soft-tissue repair (it's an immune booster).

* A guy called Mr. Del Vecchio (from a business called Australian Medical Solutions) had told Dank that the peptides he was giving the Essendon players were prohibited.

* Players were given blood tests prior to the regime - a process recommended for peptides such as TB-4 and for no other purpose than a "sinister one".

* The whole program was kept a secret and was only known to a "closed circle" (Dank, Hird, Robinson & the players) which wanted no outsiders to know about it including keeping the club doctor (Reid) out of the loop. Not only that but no records were kept to keep it a secret. Whereas the AFL hearing used this lack of record keeping as a means to say they could not be comfortably satisfied to hand out a guilty verdict; CAS saw this non-existent record-keeping and secrecy as an admission of those at Essendon of having something dodgy to hide.

* The players were aware they were to be injected with Thymosin and signed consent forms.

* The players were complicit due to their own behaviour and because they followed instructions to keep the program a secret, kept the club doctor out of the loop, and failed to record injections on doping control forms.

* Several Bomber players also had their credibility questioned when they stated Dank wasn't present at away matches until confronted with a text message stating he was :stupid.

* CAS saw Essendon's run of 8 wins from 9 games at the beginning of the 2012 season before soft-tissue injuries hit, while not being proof, as being consistent with the conclusion of substance taking.
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3758 on: January 12, 2016, 03:12:43 PM »
Lol @ mcveigh

Then he grabbed two chopsticks and stuck them in his mouth , pretending to be a walrus

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3759 on: January 12, 2016, 04:13:14 PM »


* A guy called Mr. Del Vecchio (from a business called Australian Medical Solutions) had told Dank that the peptides he was giving the Essendon players were prohibited.



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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3760 on: January 12, 2016, 04:50:14 PM »
When do the afl punish the efc for a doping scam?

The club was punished for governance not systematic cheating...

You surely can't give the drug cheating rats the no.1 pick
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3761 on: January 12, 2016, 06:08:58 PM »
When do the afl punish the efc for a doping scam?

The club was punished for governance not systematic cheating...

You surely can't give the drug cheating rats the no.1 pick

AFL have said today that there will be no further penalties against the EFC issued by the AFL
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3762 on: January 12, 2016, 06:21:28 PM »
Seeing as Essendon are now pretty much guaranteed the wooden spoon, should they really be allowed the draft picks that will come with it...won't that effectively be rewarding them for cheating?

BTW -wonder if Goddard still thinks they'll make a movie about them?
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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3763 on: January 12, 2016, 07:52:55 PM »
Guaranteed to see a movie or mini-series now.

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Re: Essendon face AFL probe/Players found Guilty by CAS
« Reply #3764 on: January 12, 2016, 08:50:28 PM »
Guaranteed to see a movie or mini-series now.

Yep

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