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[WilliamPowell]

The same people didn’t shed a tear for Justin Charles who couldn’t play without drugs that allowed him to play and weren’t performance enhancing . I like Jobe and he may have been caught up in the wrong place but  them’s the rules .

What? The drugs he took "weren't performance enhancing"?

As Damo said he took an anabolic sterioid which are very much performance enhancing.

He copped what he deserved.

Only difference between Juston and the Essendon players is Justin admitted he knowingly took the drugs. The Essendon players refuse to

[camboon]

They were  judged to be and illegal  , but they only allowed to play at his pre injury level  , he only took them to keep playing not to enhance his performance !

[WilliamPowell]

They were  judged to be and illegal  , but they only allowed to play at his pre injury level  , he only took them to keep playing not to enhance his performance !

It matters little why he took them

He took them, they were and continue to be banned, he knew they were banned but he took then anyway and they have been proven to enhance performance

To suggest otherwise or to try and justify why he did it is a mute argument,  it simple doesn't fly. Even he has said that he made a really stupid choice.

[camboon]

It matters little to you, he took the risk as he had no other choice if he wanted to play not to improve his performance .

[Damo]

They were  judged to be and illegal  , but they only allowed to play at his pre injury level  , he only took them to keep playing not to enhance his performance !

LOL

So without them he couldn’t play at his pre-injury level
With them he could play at his pre-injury level

BUT

They didn’t enhance his performance??

 

[georgies31]

The most person to answer for this is the head of football running the afl at the time , did anything to cover this up until asada and wada put him in his place and then exited without consequences.

[Damo]

The most person to answer for this is the head of football running the afl at the time , did anything to cover this up until asada and wada put him in his place and then exited without consequences.

Yeah
He has more to answer for than the bloke putting the needles in his body

Please

[camboon]

Ha ha You have no idea  , and clearly haven’t played football at a senior level where many players had injections to get through a game and to the end of the year in that era.
I always thought you had no idea and now I know Lol

[Andyy]

Ha ha You have no idea  , and clearly haven’t played football at a senior level where many players had injections to get through a game and to the end of the year in that era.
I always thought you had no idea and now I know Lol

Feels like a bit of a deflection/strawman argument there.

How are you making the case that anabolic steroids are not performance enhancing in a sport where physical strength is a desirable quality?

[Damo]

Ha ha You have no idea  , and clearly haven’t played football at a senior level where many players had injections to get through a game and to the end of the year in that era.
I always thought you had no idea and now I know Lol

I’ve played at a senior level
Old man was President of a VFL club

Spent more time in and around senior footy than you would know and understand players needle up to get through games.

You can think what you like about me , I couldn’t care a stuff

But there is only one imbecile here stating in plain English that he required the steroids to reach his previous levels , yet indicating they weren’t enhancing his performance

I’ll try and dumb it down for you

IF HIS PERFORMANCE WOULD HAVE BEEN LESS (IMPACTED) WITHOUT THE USE OF DRUGS. AND DRUGS WERE REQUIRED TO IMPROVE HIS PERFORMANCE BACK TO WHERE IT WAS. THEN THE DRUGS ARE PERFORMANCE ENHANCING.

Be like buying a new car.
Driving it for 100k without servicing and it’s running bad.
Getting lubricants and oil change etc.
Having it back to its old performance.
And stating the lubricants and oil change weren’t performance enhancing.

What a load of rubbish.

It’s plain as day who has no idea.

[Diocletian]

Baboon's never been the brightest bulb and this thread only confirms it.

[georgies31]

The most person to answer for this is the head of football running the afl at the time , did anything to cover this up until asada and wada put him in his place and then exited without consequences.

Yeah
He has more to answer for than the bloke putting the needles in his body

Please

This scandal happened under is reign and he did everything to cover it up and tipped the bombers they we're going to be raided. It's called accountability. Both parties liable.

[camboon]

I don’t give care the slightest what your parents did, obvious you were too busy with ballet classes and didn’t play with pain killers every week just to get through.
I said it was illegal but I think that a drug that is just used to treat an injury doesn’t increase performance,  but did I say it was illegal and was punished? Whilst I understand your view I think  you are STUPID as you need to be right and cannot agree to disagree when someone has a different viewpoint

Dio rrhea by name and by nature , it just keeps coming out of the mouth , with the little petty narcissist cheap shot what a moron. Never has anything to add of value, have a look at the negative crap he dribbled out the draft, I guess haters have got to hate !

[Diocletian]

LMAO - baboon on the loose....

[Damo]

LMAO - baboon on the loose....

He’s gone whack
I’m going to assume the foetal position and sob myself to sleep