You underestimate Ivan.
He has the ability to get the team to lift.
He's a stuffn gun like that.
His physical presence is as importnt as whether he is a great ruck man or not.
A bloke with leadership qualities in a team of soft cox.
In 2012 yes, but last year I only saw brief glimpses of that. People shouldn't mistake things like his goal in the EF as being indicative of his whole year - it wasn't. Was often non-competative against the better rucks - to the point we even conceded the hit-outs and devised a new strategy against West Coast, which luckily paid off- partly because WC were poo last year. Was about as quick as treacle and looked like a log around the ground - opposition players regularly skipped around and away from him with ease, was often fumbly with the ball, slow in attack - and frankly, his disposal and decision-making was almost comical at times.
Though all that around the ground stuff is still better than Hamspud on a good day.