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Re: Yarran requests trade to Richmond [update]
« Reply #435 on: August 21, 2015, 07:18:43 PM »
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Re: Yarran requests trade to Richmond [update]
« Reply #436 on: August 21, 2015, 08:38:32 PM »




Lake, Gunston, Gibson, Hale, Burgoyne, McEvoy, O'Rourke, Anderson. Frawlery

Gunston a grade
burgoyne a grade
orourke pick 2
mcevoy highly rated etc

hawthorn bought in a number of guns

Not sure they were "guns" when brought in. Gibson and Hale were mediocre players at North. O'Rourke has shown nothing and Frawley is overrated/ paid. Lake and Burgoyne were thought to be past their prime and Gunston was a promising type when brought in.

They've got the most out of these blokes but that's as much to do with their system and culture as it does the raw talent of players brought in.

Thats an interesting way of looking at it.

Im not sure if that is a suffice argument - to not go hard for trelor. Danger. Lburger  Carlisle types


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Re: Yarran requests trade to Richmond [update]
« Reply #437 on: August 21, 2015, 08:52:08 PM »
They haven't payed ridiculous amounts of money for those players. Look what's japlened to Sydney. Many criticised them for buying buddy franklin. Damaged their culture greatly

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Re: Yarran requests trade to Richmond [update]
« Reply #438 on: August 21, 2015, 08:57:44 PM »




Lake, Gunston, Gibson, Hale, Burgoyne, McEvoy, O'Rourke, Anderson. Frawlery

Gunston a grade
burgoyne a grade
orourke pick 2
mcevoy highly rated etc

hawthorn bought in a number of guns

Not sure they were "guns" when brought in. Gibson and Hale were mediocre players at North. O'Rourke has shown nothing and Frawley is overrated/ paid. Lake and Burgoyne were thought to be past their prime and Gunston was a promising type when brought in.

They've got the most out of these blokes but that's as much to do with their system and culture as it does the raw talent of players brought in.

Thats an interesting way of looking at it.

Im not sure if that is a suffice argument - to not go hard for trelor. Danger. Lburger  Carlisle types



maybe not, but it counters your hawthorn example as being an argument for spending a large portion of the cap on a few players.

On which its important to remember it was the loosing of arguably the biggest fish to move ponds since locket, that enabled hawthorn to afford frawley, and keep those important second tier players, while winning another premiership
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Re: Yarran requests trade to Richmond [update]
« Reply #439 on: August 21, 2015, 08:59:39 PM »
Do this "due diligence" then move on from Yarran!!

Due diligence eh.

Something like a quick look at stats.
Yarran career disposals 14.5
Houli career disposals 21.25

or maybe the fact that the bottom team in the competition with the worst list won't play him.

or maybe because we have a shortage of his type with only Houli, Hunt, Drummond, Castagna, Ellis, McDonough on the list.

If the club recruits Yarran AND pays anything more than a 3rd rounder and an average wage (around $300K) then they will have proved their incompetence.
The player we could have got for the Yarran pick, like Rockliff, Barlow and Heppell in the past, will be the albatross around their necks.

A decision to recruit Yarran is so stupid on so many different levels (attitude, ability, trade price, wage, loss of development) I cannot see how list management and coach can hold their jobs.

correct

is it?

Yarren has played forward a lot in a bad team

In the era of kicking backwards and sideways.  I am not convinced possession stats are paramount

The era is also one of tanking. So that should be taken into consideration too


Drummond, Castagna types are a bonus if they make it

I am not sold on yarren. And would prefer him be cheap. But i get the feeling he would be better for us than; hunt / grigg / chaplin / houli. His pace and skill could work well - with our guns inside types. Miles chimp. Martin 
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Re: Yarran requests trade to Richmond [update]
« Reply #440 on: August 21, 2015, 09:01:21 PM »
so what would you pay for yarran?
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Re: Yarran requests trade to Richmond [update]
« Reply #441 on: August 21, 2015, 09:04:18 PM »




Lake, Gunston, Gibson, Hale, Burgoyne, McEvoy, O'Rourke, Anderson. Frawlery

Gunston a grade
burgoyne a grade
orourke pick 2
mcevoy highly rated etc

hawthorn bought in a number of guns

Not sure they were "guns" when brought in. Gibson and Hale were mediocre players at North. O'Rourke has shown nothing and Frawley is overrated/ paid. Lake and Burgoyne were thought to be past their prime and Gunston was a promising type when brought in.

They've got the most out of these blokes but that's as much to do with their system and culture as it does the raw talent of players brought in.

Thats an interesting way of looking at it.

Im not sure if that is a suffice argument - to not go hard for trelor. Danger. Lburger  Carlisle types

I've certainly advocated going after Treloar I'm a big fan. Danger as well though I never though we were a chance. I just think you do so within reason and that successful recruiting isn't defined by signing the most expensive player.

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Re: Yarran requests trade to Richmond [update]
« Reply #442 on: August 21, 2015, 10:07:15 PM »




Lake, Gunston, Gibson, Hale, Burgoyne, McEvoy, O'Rourke, Anderson. Frawlery

Gunston a grade
burgoyne a grade
orourke pick 2
mcevoy highly rated etc

hawthorn bought in a number of guns

Not sure they were "guns" when brought in. Gibson and Hale were mediocre players at North. O'Rourke has shown nothing and Frawley is overrated/ paid. Lake and Burgoyne were thought to be past their prime and Gunston was a promising type when brought in.

They've got the most out of these blokes but that's as much to do with their system and culture as it does the raw talent of players brought in.

Thats an interesting way of looking at it.

Im not sure if that is a suffice argument - to not go hard for trelor. Danger. Lburger  Carlisle types

I've certainly advocated going after Treloar I'm a big fan. Danger as well though I never though we were a chance. I just think you do so within reason and that successful recruiting isn't defined by signing the most expensive player.

id think many of dynasties in more recent times have had fair 'reinforcement' from elsewhere which has added to the list core.

 - Geelong were lucky with the soft father/sun rules but ottens was handy. Fitted in a treat.
 - brisbane got head start by eating fitzory.
 - Sydney have a stream of recycling coming in. You could argue; as a result of tippet and Franklin.  They could be a rough chance - at worst for a flag every year.  At least for the medium term. High risk but high reward


Richmond have done things within reason for about a decade.  There is a good young core. But the team still asks too much from too few on game day. It is good to improve the bottom six slowly with corey ellis and lennon types.  But the premiership window wont be open forever. Nor will Maric and lids be

You can only play 18, all the contracts are locked in. Why not throw the kitchen sink at the biggest fish now? In a similar way to sydney or hawks having worked in some players to strengthen areas; trelor or danger, for example, in addition to miles, vlastuin, deledio, martin, cotchin would be formidable.

There was an article saying. For some reason Richmond get an extra ten percent salary cap room. Too. I understand danger is highly unrealistic , yet trelor,  bennel. Highly talented types couldnt hurt 

as for hawthorn the key defender were somewhat highly rated in the afl community.  Lake/harris, Frawley, gibson prior to moving. 

Hale. Mcvoey. Gunston were not stars but still quite young and on the verge of improving.  Perhaps like trelor, bennel, Carlisle


Burgoyne is silk. Anderson I like from the little ive seen. Would be handy here. Orourke, not many top3 picks fail these days. A player of that potential would keep the other player on toes

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Re: Yarran requests trade to Richmond [update]
« Reply #443 on: August 21, 2015, 10:23:48 PM »
so what would you pay for yarran?

grigg and 2016 draft pick, non first round
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Re: Yarran requests trade to Richmond [update]
« Reply #444 on: August 21, 2015, 10:45:31 PM »
Agree Houli is better than Yarran but Yarran is a forward plain and simple. 
I will almost put money on the fact that Yarran will kick 40-50 goals for us playing deep forward

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if yarren plays for richmond

and is played as a forward

I think its possible he kicks on average two goals a game 
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Re: Yarran requests trade to Richmond [update]
« Reply #445 on: August 22, 2015, 12:09:34 PM »
so what would you pay for yarran?

grigg and 2016 draft pick, non first round
not much then?
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Re: Yarran requests trade to Richmond [update]
« Reply #446 on: August 22, 2015, 12:46:41 PM »
Good call on SEN just now... Yarran needs to get himself right with himself before we start saying what club is right for him, also said a bad fit for the RFC...
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Re: Yarran requests trade to Richmond [update]
« Reply #447 on: August 22, 2015, 01:28:18 PM »
Good call on SEN just now... Yarran needs to get himself right with himself before we start saying what club is right for him, also said a bad fit for the RFC...

2/3 of the panel said it was a good idea. Only Robbo didbt like it.
Kings and Derm said he'd be a good fit

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Re: Yarran requests trade to Richmond [update]
« Reply #448 on: August 22, 2015, 01:40:30 PM »
NO to Yarran.

Motlop, Danger, Treloar...use the massive war chest we have apparently built.. :whistle :whistle :whistle
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Re: Yarran requests trade to Richmond [update]
« Reply #449 on: August 22, 2015, 01:53:27 PM »
Yes to Yarran for mine. Get a bloke with his talent to a solid, grounded club (like we are at the moment) and we'll get the best out of him. He's a jet!